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« on: November 01, 2008, 03:06:08 am »
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?rogue=00520500100000000000000000000053231053501005201033310505020000000000000000000000000

I wasnt able to get full dagger specialization because points wouldn't allow, but that seems like the most of what i could get that would increase my DPS most significantly.
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2008, 04:00:12 am »
HFB?
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2008, 04:51:08 am »
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envenom refreshes snd
vigor is a pvp talent, you won't hit 110 energy on bosses
hfb...skip 9% damage? oO
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2008, 03:16:25 pm »
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would this be better tho?

What i did is just switching Master Poisoner to 3/5 CCQ.

Just a thought on mobs that cant be poisoned, especially bosses. (not sure bout lk boss tho.)

Or else i guess the crit chance on finishing moves is good too.
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2008, 04:01:55 pm »
not sure if you realize it or not, but Master Poisoner increases ALL attacks crit chance by 3%.   Not just yours, everyone who is attacking that target.

So in a raid setting MP > CQC
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2008, 04:03:03 pm »
I figured i'd use this thread to talk about ruthlessness in PVE.

What does everyone think? I've been very vocal in the last few days over how useless I consider it is for PVP. However, I am confident that it gives a net DPS increase for PVE, and I think it will probably be a must for a serious DPS build. Though I'm too lazy to run the math right now. Has anyone else given it a look?

It's my understanding of PVE builds that it's not too bad to finish on 4 combo points, and the general consensus is get up to either 4 or 5 (whichever comes first) and finish. I think that with ruthlessness you will get a lot of finisher -> mutilate (4 points with seal fate and ruthlessness) -> finisher which will pretty much guarantee rupture will be up all the time. But i'm open to disproof, anyone?
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2008, 04:03:45 pm »
This will be mine, for pvp purposes. It lacks hit but you can just stack it.

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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2008, 04:06:24 pm »
2 points in Close Quarters Combat is better than 2 points in Opportunity.
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2008, 04:10:27 pm »
I'd go with this, maximum raid efficiency:

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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2008, 04:26:46 pm »
If u bring a ret pally to a raid they have that talent that increases crit done to target by 3% and it doesn't stack with Master Posioner so u don't need to pick that up for raiding but 5 mans it hot so im going with. You also don't need Vigor because after u open u'll never reach 110 energy again so it's kinda pointless but i couldn't find any other useful fillers except putting 1 in MP instead of virgor or maybe the 1 in CQC

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0efoexoiboIzAo0xVZxb
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2008, 05:42:35 pm »
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ef0exoVboIzAo0xV0xZx

There is no other max dps spec for mutilate. Max. Highest. Top.
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2008, 07:07:08 pm »
I haven't done the math, but I REALLY don't think 2% crit is worth more than 20% mutilate damage.
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2008, 07:08:08 pm »
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2008, 08:13:36 pm »
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?rogue=00500500500000000000000000003050230053501025221003313005020000000000000000000000000

is what i was thinking for PVE raiding
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2008, 08:22:19 pm »
Quote from: Xal on November 04, 2008, 05:42:35 pm
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ef0exoVboIzAo0xV0xZx

There is no other max dps spec for mutilate. Max. Highest. Top.

This, with TtT swapped for MP if there's no Ret Pally in the raid/instance.
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