MMO-Champion - World of Warcraft Cataclysm Press Tour
Update #3 - Just to make it clear, the NDA on the Alpha isn't lifted, you can still get your ass banned for posting that kind of stuff. Also, Blizzquote layout added now that it's official.

World of Warcraft Cataclysm Press Tour
Earlier this week, general gaming sites and a couple of official fansites were invited to the Blizzard HQ for a press tour of Cataclysm. The NDA (on the press tour, don't get too excited) just lifted and a couple of information have been revealed.

This post will probably be updated multiple times during the night, so far this is what I gathered before the NDA lift:

Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Path of the Titans is gone
The whole Path of the Titans idea has been removed from the game. It will no longer rely on Archeology or on any kind of PvE/PvP progression and instead Blizzard will just introduce a new type of glyphs: Medium Glyphs.

Medium Glyphs will add a "fun factor" to abilities, and it wouldn't be surprising to see something similar to the Fortification or Breakthrough glyphs first previewed during Blizzcon 2009. (But probably not these exact glyphs, a lot of stuff happened since last year)

Guild Talents are gone
The guild talents are gone and your guild now gets extra bonuses depending on its level. There are 25 levels and each level will automatically reward with more cool stuff. The leveling process remains unchanged and your guild will gain experience through PvP, Dungeon and Raid progression, questing, etc ...

Guild currency has also been removed and rewards will just be "unlocked" after you reach a specific level or complete a guild achievement. Once a reward is unlocked, members will be able to purchase it with gold. Some of the rewards include guild tabards, mounts, heirlooms, and it looks like you will finally be able to have a guild tabard on your mount. (Just like the Argent Tournament banners)

New members of a guild won't be able to buy everything directly, they will have to contribute to the progression of the guild before they can access the top rewards. Each time a player helps towards the leveling he will gain reputation with the guild, the best rewards will require players to be exalted with their guild before they can buy it.

Archeology will be less important
With the Path of the Titans gone, Archeology will become a "true" secondary profession and you won't really have to level it anymore. However it will still be used to let you get cosmetic/optional items, get more information on the game's lore, and ultimately it looks like we can expect rewards similar to fishing. (Nothing mandatory, but you'll be happy when you actually find something)

Information gathered from other sites:
  • You will find two types of items: Common Artifacts will give you more information on the lore of a race, and might be used in some kind of collection game. Rare items will give you usable items, most of them will be cosmetic but some of them will have actual effects. (Details on Wowhead)

Raids & Dungeons Split
Raid leaders will be able to split an ongoing 25-man raid into up to three 10-man raids. Those 10-man raids will be able to continue from that point on, with bosses already down.

So far it looks like it won't be possible to merge 10-man raids into 25-man raids, for obvious reasons.

Information gathered from other sites:
  • Raid IDs should be much more flexible. You will be able to join any raid as long as it doesn't have any bosses up that you have already killed. (Details on Wowhead)
  • There will be more Algalon-style encounters—ultra-hard optional bosses for hardcore players only. (Details on Wowhead)

Rated Battlegrounds
Rated battlegrounds will be available for pre-mades of 10, 15 and 25-player sizes. The amount of Conquest points rewarded will be capped so that players who enjoy both arenas and rated battlegrounds don't feel they have to prioritize one over the other.

Information gathered from other sites:
  • The classic Honor titles will be coming back and rewarded to the top teams each season. (Details on WoR)
  • The "Gladiator" equivalent teams will also receive epic ground mounts. Ground mounts because they want to reward something you can ride in the battleground and be proud of / show off. (Details on WoR)

Grim Batol Raid
The Grim Batol raid instance will be called the Bastion of Twilight, and you get to fight Cho'gall as the end boss! If you manage to defeat him in Heroic Mode, an "horrific secret will be revealed when he dies".

Information gathered from other sites:
  • This is an entry-level raid, just like Naxxramas in WotLK. (Details on Wowhead)
  • It will feature 5 bosses, and an Algalon-style optional and ultra-hard boss. (The "horrific" secret?) (Details on Wowhead)

Skywall Raid
As expected, Al'akir will be the end boss of the Skywall raid instance.

Information gathered from other sites:

Deepholm
Princess Therazane (yes, that's her) will be a questgiver in Deepholm, in a similar experience to the Sons of Hodir's questline in Storm Peaks.

Information gathered from other sites:
  • The Ogrim's Hammer has crashed in the zone and the Skybreaker is still in the air. One of the questline will require you to find out what happened. (Details on Wowhead)

Heroic Deadmines / Shadowfang Keep
Heroic versions of classic instances might not be ready for the release of Cataclysm and will be shipped in content patch instead.

Old world changes
There are a more details on old world changes, especially capital cities.

Information gathered from other sites:
  • Stormwind has been completely redesigned to accomodate flying mounts. The Park of Stormwind has been destroyed by Deathwing and the Dwarven District now hosts a Bank and an Auction House. (Details on Wowhead)
  • Orgrimmar has been redesigned as well: Garrosh is the new Warchief and is located in the center of Orgrimmar, not in the Valley of Wisdom. Goblins have their own area, the Valley of Wisdom becomes a Tauren district, and there is now a back gate leading directly into Azshara. (Details on Wowhead)

Miscellaneous Changes/Information
  • Wrath of the Lich King had 1000 Quests, Cataclysm has over 3000.
  • The current heirlooms will stop growing after level 80. There will be a whole new crop of heirlooms for Cataclysm. Goblins and Worgen will be able to start using heirlooms immediately at launch. (Details on Wowhead)
Cataclysm Zone Changes
A new video of zone changes in Cataclysm was released. Stole this one from Wowhead.



Cataclysm Screenshots
A few high resolution screenshots have been released. Courtesy of World of Raids.



This article was originally published in forum thread: World of Warcraft Cataclysm Press Tour started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 418 Comments
  1. Fool's Avatar
    Don't fuck me, Blizzard
  1. theads's Avatar
    is this a patch or expansion?

    already started removing anything that sounded new & interesting...
  1. Altaria's Avatar
    they scrapped everything that sounds interesting. Man, this expansion is just going to suck!
  1. Doctor Professor's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sjerusalem View Post
    All over im disapointed with everything.

    I wanted to pvp in cata, mainly for fun in bg-s but now i have to find 14 other ppl to be able to do rated bg, or premade pug, which even more of a Fail than premade itself.
    See, people like this guy are the reason why they are dumming the game down. If he can't read patch notes, you can't expect him to play complex game. Read 10 pages of these replies and you will see why they have to do these changes. Because 90% of people who play this game have apple-sized brains.

    You can still do normal battlegrounds.
    You can still do normal arena.
    You can still do 10-man raids.
    Your guild will still progress, you just won't have to choose how. (In fact this will help clearing up guild dramas over I WANT EXP / BUT I WANT MORE MONEY)
    Archeology is still in game.
    3000 new quests are still in game.
    All the zones are still being redone.
    There are still flying mounts in Azeroth.
    There are still new raids in Azeroth.
    There are still new dungeons in Azeroth.

    AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT'S A F*CKING APLHA. IT'S THERE TO TEST THE CHANGES.
  1. Lumocolor's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Professor View Post
    Where do you get that? They only said there will be ultra hard OPTIONAL bosses. Noone said anything about having limited time / attempts on them. Jesus Christ people.
    What does "Algalon type fight" mean to you? Algalon was the easiest boss in Ulduar, it was the 1hr timer that made it anywhere near a challenge...lol
  1. RumlyD's Avatar
    Oh boy. I really didn't see that one coming. Paths of the Titans was one of the features that sounded really cool and interesting as a form of max level character progression, other than just raiding to get more and more gear. Also wasn't that kind of the whole point with not going to level 90, because we would still have to progress out characters through the paths once we got to 85? Anyway, I'm quite disappointed that they felt it wasn't going to work out, especially after talking so much about it at blizzcon. I guess we'll just have to see how the whole Medium Glyphs thing works out. I must say, though, that the whole Archeology thing seems pretty pointless now and it being left in will feel like an afterthought that just reminds you what it was originally meant to do.

    Guild talents I'm pretty sad to see get thrown out as well. Some of them sounded pretty awesome... raid summon, mass res, more gold from mobs. Pretty nice perks for being in a guild rather than a pug.

    Pretty disappointed overall really.
  1. gagarin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by emoroan View Post
    you're still reading it wrong.

    You can't join the fresh person, but they can join you.

    I do wonder how it will work with limited attempts, i'm hoping this is the death of them.
    maybe it won't work in wow, the way i've discribed, but it was so in WAR Online.
  1. Doctor Professor's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Lumocolor View Post
    What does "Algalon type fight" mean to you? Algalon was the easiest boss in Ulduar, it was the 1hr timer that made it anywhere near a challenge...lol
    It means a fight that you don't have to finish to complete the instance or do the flying mount meta achievement.
    And saying he was "easiest".... Yea I know Flame Leviathan took your guild 4 months to kill.
  1. Doctor Professor's Avatar
    Guild talents I'm pretty sad to see get thrown out as well. Some of them sounded pretty awesome... raid summon, mass res, more gold from mobs. Pretty nice perks for being in a guild rather than a pug.

    Did you just read the white text?

    The guild talents are gone and your guild now gets extra bonuses depending on its level. There are 25 levels and each level will automatically reward with more cool stuff. The leveling process remains unchanged and your guild will gain experience through PvP, Dungeon and Raid progression, questing, etc ...
  1. Moomurr's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by furydeath View Post
    Guess Heroic Deadmines/Shadowfang Keep will be the dance studio of Cataclysm.
    How hard can it be to change a mob from level 16 to 85? I know they are just the same places but i was kinda looking forward to these heroic oldies.
  1. we_are_borg's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Professor View Post
    See, people like this guy are the reason why they are dumming the game down. If he can't read patch notes, you can't expect him to play complex game. Read 10 pages of these replies and you will see why they have to do these changes. Because 90% of people who play this game have apple-sized brains.

    You can still do normal battlegrounds.
    You can still do normal arena.
    You can still do 10-man raids.
    Your guild will still progress, you just won't have to choose how. (In fact this will help clearing up guild dramas over I WANT EXP / BUT I WANT MORE MONEY)
    Archeology is still in game.
    3000 new quests are still in game.
    All the zones are still being redone.
    There are still flying mounts in Azeroth.
    There are still new raids in Azeroth.
    There are still new dungeons in Azeroth.

    AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT'S A F*CKING APLHA. IT'S THERE TO TEST THE CHANGES.
    You must be joking with Archeology is still in the game they nerved it beyond what they could do with it same with guild progress by leveling it and a talent tree. Remember the Blizzcon event they announced it with great triumph and made sure every one new it, but now they say its to hard to do and keep everyone happy. Also PvP vs PvE i think blizzard is stupid and lost reality with PvP and PvE split does two up make a PvE tree for normal questing and dungeons/raids, make a tree that is PvP for Arena and BG. After that PvE tree in normal world and PvP in BG and arena's attack some one in real world for PvP all is fair but your not optimized for PvP and you can lose because of the unbalance.
  1. Lumocolor's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Professor View Post
    It means a fight that you don't have to finish to complete the instance or do the flying mount meta achievement.
    And saying he was "easiest".... Yea I know Flame Leviathan took your guild 4 months to kill.
    Yes, Flame leviathan hard mode was harder than Algalon, i think Algalon took us less than 15 attempts which yes amounted to 3 weeks because of the 1hr timer, not because it was hard. Without the 1hr timer it would have been an ultra easy fight.

    Saying Algalon like encounter doesn't signify anything hard to me, it signifies limited attempts, if they wanted to say ultra hard they could have said "Alone in the darkness" encounter.
  1. seymourclearly's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Fiberi View Post
    Oh wow, they just scrapped everything interesting they've presented us with so far off the the table.
    This a 1000 times over. Sounds to me like they've poorly managed their time and are now having to cut back as a result. Maybe we'll get recycled Molten Core this time instead of Naxx. xD
  1. Soul Hermit's Avatar
    yes
    let the qq about cataclysm finally begin
    this is the way thousand needles will flood!
  1. Asajj's Avatar
    I'm a bit disappointed!!!
  1. Venara's Avatar
    Meh. Was kinda looking forward to Path of the Titans and guild talents. Hope the replacement will be good.
  1. Florentzia's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by asphyx5 View Post
    This expansion is shaping up to be alot like Burning Crusade was at Launch... "Wait for Content Patch" "gasp"
    You mean WotLK, not BC, do you?
    In BC there was Kara, Gruul, Magg, SSC and TK at beginning.
  1. Nejm's Avatar
    My guess for the "secret" boss after Cho'gall will probably be C'thun re-summoned.

    Oh sorry for spoiling
  1. wabun's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Adys View Post
    Just like WotLK dances!
    yep.

    guild lvling - gone! man i thought this would be so much fun, but it would have added a little depth to the game and there would have been different guilds again so screw it of world of fast-food-instant-craft

    path of the titans - gone! man, again depth is not needed to make money so screw it, man i am happy i quit wow a week ago. well well i hope i do not have to say how much lore and awesome stuff is lost due to this...

    does anyone think dances will ever be added??? oO no, they need the time for programming other animations like lil'KT or pandaren pets the can sell....

    once i thought blizzard was the coolest best company ever... now they not even better then EA (and well that's a horrible insult, at least in my world)
  1. louandy2001's Avatar
    im likeing the new raid ideas, be go on guild who do semi guild runs on 25man raids, thats what my guild does at the mo. Also like the idea, u can join any raid if u dont kill the same boss twice

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