MMO-Champion - World of Warcraft Cataclysm Press Tour
Update #3 - Just to make it clear, the NDA on the Alpha isn't lifted, you can still get your ass banned for posting that kind of stuff. Also, Blizzquote layout added now that it's official.

World of Warcraft Cataclysm Press Tour
Earlier this week, general gaming sites and a couple of official fansites were invited to the Blizzard HQ for a press tour of Cataclysm. The NDA (on the press tour, don't get too excited) just lifted and a couple of information have been revealed.

This post will probably be updated multiple times during the night, so far this is what I gathered before the NDA lift:

Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Path of the Titans is gone
The whole Path of the Titans idea has been removed from the game. It will no longer rely on Archeology or on any kind of PvE/PvP progression and instead Blizzard will just introduce a new type of glyphs: Medium Glyphs.

Medium Glyphs will add a "fun factor" to abilities, and it wouldn't be surprising to see something similar to the Fortification or Breakthrough glyphs first previewed during Blizzcon 2009. (But probably not these exact glyphs, a lot of stuff happened since last year)

Guild Talents are gone
The guild talents are gone and your guild now gets extra bonuses depending on its level. There are 25 levels and each level will automatically reward with more cool stuff. The leveling process remains unchanged and your guild will gain experience through PvP, Dungeon and Raid progression, questing, etc ...

Guild currency has also been removed and rewards will just be "unlocked" after you reach a specific level or complete a guild achievement. Once a reward is unlocked, members will be able to purchase it with gold. Some of the rewards include guild tabards, mounts, heirlooms, and it looks like you will finally be able to have a guild tabard on your mount. (Just like the Argent Tournament banners)

New members of a guild won't be able to buy everything directly, they will have to contribute to the progression of the guild before they can access the top rewards. Each time a player helps towards the leveling he will gain reputation with the guild, the best rewards will require players to be exalted with their guild before they can buy it.

Archeology will be less important
With the Path of the Titans gone, Archeology will become a "true" secondary profession and you won't really have to level it anymore. However it will still be used to let you get cosmetic/optional items, get more information on the game's lore, and ultimately it looks like we can expect rewards similar to fishing. (Nothing mandatory, but you'll be happy when you actually find something)

Information gathered from other sites:
  • You will find two types of items: Common Artifacts will give you more information on the lore of a race, and might be used in some kind of collection game. Rare items will give you usable items, most of them will be cosmetic but some of them will have actual effects. (Details on Wowhead)

Raids & Dungeons Split
Raid leaders will be able to split an ongoing 25-man raid into up to three 10-man raids. Those 10-man raids will be able to continue from that point on, with bosses already down.

So far it looks like it won't be possible to merge 10-man raids into 25-man raids, for obvious reasons.

Information gathered from other sites:
  • Raid IDs should be much more flexible. You will be able to join any raid as long as it doesn't have any bosses up that you have already killed. (Details on Wowhead)
  • There will be more Algalon-style encounters—ultra-hard optional bosses for hardcore players only. (Details on Wowhead)

Rated Battlegrounds
Rated battlegrounds will be available for pre-mades of 10, 15 and 25-player sizes. The amount of Conquest points rewarded will be capped so that players who enjoy both arenas and rated battlegrounds don't feel they have to prioritize one over the other.

Information gathered from other sites:
  • The classic Honor titles will be coming back and rewarded to the top teams each season. (Details on WoR)
  • The "Gladiator" equivalent teams will also receive epic ground mounts. Ground mounts because they want to reward something you can ride in the battleground and be proud of / show off. (Details on WoR)

Grim Batol Raid
The Grim Batol raid instance will be called the Bastion of Twilight, and you get to fight Cho'gall as the end boss! If you manage to defeat him in Heroic Mode, an "horrific secret will be revealed when he dies".

Information gathered from other sites:
  • This is an entry-level raid, just like Naxxramas in WotLK. (Details on Wowhead)
  • It will feature 5 bosses, and an Algalon-style optional and ultra-hard boss. (The "horrific" secret?) (Details on Wowhead)

Skywall Raid
As expected, Al'akir will be the end boss of the Skywall raid instance.

Information gathered from other sites:

Deepholm
Princess Therazane (yes, that's her) will be a questgiver in Deepholm, in a similar experience to the Sons of Hodir's questline in Storm Peaks.

Information gathered from other sites:
  • The Ogrim's Hammer has crashed in the zone and the Skybreaker is still in the air. One of the questline will require you to find out what happened. (Details on Wowhead)

Heroic Deadmines / Shadowfang Keep
Heroic versions of classic instances might not be ready for the release of Cataclysm and will be shipped in content patch instead.

Old world changes
There are a more details on old world changes, especially capital cities.

Information gathered from other sites:
  • Stormwind has been completely redesigned to accomodate flying mounts. The Park of Stormwind has been destroyed by Deathwing and the Dwarven District now hosts a Bank and an Auction House. (Details on Wowhead)
  • Orgrimmar has been redesigned as well: Garrosh is the new Warchief and is located in the center of Orgrimmar, not in the Valley of Wisdom. Goblins have their own area, the Valley of Wisdom becomes a Tauren district, and there is now a back gate leading directly into Azshara. (Details on Wowhead)

Miscellaneous Changes/Information
  • Wrath of the Lich King had 1000 Quests, Cataclysm has over 3000.
  • The current heirlooms will stop growing after level 80. There will be a whole new crop of heirlooms for Cataclysm. Goblins and Worgen will be able to start using heirlooms immediately at launch. (Details on Wowhead)
Cataclysm Zone Changes
A new video of zone changes in Cataclysm was released. Stole this one from Wowhead.



Cataclysm Screenshots
A few high resolution screenshots have been released. Courtesy of World of Raids.



This article was originally published in forum thread: World of Warcraft Cataclysm Press Tour started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 418 Comments
  1. Matthew's Avatar
    rofl...

    Blizzard is rushing to try getting Cata out, so they make all these cool promises and then shoot the ideas down. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if they cancelled Worgens and Goblins and said "instead, players may purchase Worgen and Goblin masks for a mere 1000g each!"
  1. Goit's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sixpac View Post
    PotT has been praised as the big feature for advancing characters after you've hit 85. The accompanying archaelogy is now just a "fun" profession. That sounds like some of the best features have been dumped, and we're back to good ol' instance grinding. Too complex? I dunno. Maybe the true answer is: Sorry, but we're running out of time.
    I think you hit the nail on the head at the end there.

    Smells to me like they are rushing it out now, It's June, so when can we expect Cata? not for at least 3-4 months, that means we'll have had wotlk for 2 years, which in it's self is pretty grim given Blizzards 'we aim to have one expansion out per year'(paraphrasing)

    Can I see myself grinding ICC for another 4 months?.... not bloody likely.
  1. Greyce's Avatar
    F'n weak, Blizzard. F'n weak. Have already discontinued my subscription. I'll check back in 5-6 months.
  1. kappesante's Avatar
    1. vanilla - good, i loved it
    2. outland stuff - bad, it was boring
    3. lk - quite good, i had a lot of fun
    4. cata - seems bad


    i'll wait since #5. even numbers < odd numbers.
  1. Edlarel's Avatar
    Having cheered on Cata since we first learned about it, I find myself almost saddened that we're losing so much promised to us. I understand that they don't want to put out an incomplete expac, and that they don't want to make us wait (much) longer; but at this point, I feel kinda used. I mean, the hype behind guild talents, archaeology, and path of the titans have ended up being just that.

    Is this a precedent we can expect from Blizzard now that we've seen it done twice? When they announce their next expansion, will we hear about 3-5 more things that will be parked by release in their idea scrapyard along with custom dances and the three I mentioned above?
  1. Unleashed01's Avatar
    I already cancelled my subscription 2 months back due to my partner giving birth to our first child, i still check mmo for news updates on cata as i was planning to renew my scubcription when it was released but after reading the news there removing half the stuff they got us hyped about and that i paid money to watch at blizzcon its a joke, no other word for it but a complete joke. How can you advertise an event and show off all your plans for a game and then lateron say nahhh sorry guys we'r not doing that, surely there is something very wrong and immoral about that. Can you imagine at E3 a company saying we'r making this game etc etc and then Ooops that was just a joke. Personally i now see cata as the same old wow with 5 extra levels, 2 new classes and a facelift BORING!!! I think this game has finally run its course
  1. ItachiZaku's Avatar
    I don't like the guild changes. That's a bummer.
  1. rantus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Viertel View Post
    Of course not. People kept hyping this expansion to be more than it really is. The old world revamp is nothing more than changes to the game world that have been needed and they've simply been putting off until they could make some money with it. Now you're not even getting *MAJOR* key features that were promised on the expansion launch, nor are you getting anywhere near as many new areas to travel in compared to WotLK or even Outlands.

    Fail expansion is shaping up to be pretty fail right now.
    You're right, theres so much new things in cataclysm that BC and WotLK look like minor content patches in comparison, its no where near, its mile ahead. If a grindy glyph system was the major selling point of the exapnsino for you then yeah, it looks bad, but to me this expansion looks awesome.

    We're hardly losing anything they announced, the ability to choose guild talents and a flawed system that would act as another gs.

    How would PotT work? It was supposed to be a choice, with many different options so your guy could be unique. It would just boil down to another best thing per class with most options unused. To make nothing be OP most things would be crap. Pretty pointless
  1. Winfernal's Avatar
    "I Quit."

    No you dont! haha

    NO one of you knows anything about how complicated it is to make features like this, its not a fucking childsplay to balance. Its not like their went: "This costs to much money and to much effort to make, lets scrap it guys!".

    "oh hurr durr, Activision forced them to scrap it"
    Take of your tinfoil hat for a second and think, and maybe you should actually read the interview to.

    Seeing the majority of the posts here and WoW players in general, there is no question why they removed such a "complicated" system. WoW players today are BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ¤#¤, im sorry, the Vuvuzelas are noisy today.

    You should do some research before you QQ as soon as possible. And ask youserlf questions like this;

    "Why did they remove features like this?" -- And Instead of insta-QQing, you should solve that mystery.

    And then, if you disagree, Atleast you have a reason to QQ.
  1. Hircine's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemons View Post
    So...where's our worgen district? I was really looking forward to having a london-y area in Stormwind. Perhaps they'll build it on the ruins of the park in an upcoming patch? I'll be really REALLY disapointed if that idea got scrapped.
    I was actually wondering the same thing, we haven't seen anyone stating that there won't be a worgen district yet(as far as i know).Would suck BIG time if they didn't make it in the end.. i find the whole gilneas setting fantastic, what a huge waste it would be if you just get to see it as a starting area.

    They also mentioned that they are adding another trade district in SW, and that's going to appear in the Dwarven district.. i think they should be making it in the Worgen district(assuming that they are making one).

    p.s. SW now literally sucks compared to the new 'fortified' orgrimmar.
  1. RumlyD's Avatar
    'Worgen District' is going to be in Darnassus:

    http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/pc/games...ing-Cataclysm/

    SW now literally sucks compared to the new 'fortified' orgrimmar.
    I think it's looking pretty sweet from the screenshots, just my opinion.
  1. Saberoy's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Varulv View Post
    I was actually wondering the same thing, we haven't seen anyone stating that there won't be a worgen district yet(as far as i know).Would suck BIG time if they didn't make it in the end.. i find the whole gilneas setting fantastic, what a huge waste it would be if you just get to see it as a starting area.

    They also mentioned that they are adding another trade district in SW, and that's going to appear in the Dwarven district.. i think they should be making it in the Worgen district(assuming that they are making one).

    p.s. SW now literally sucks compared to the new 'fortified' orgrimmar.
    Quote Originally Posted by Varulv View Post
    p.s. SW now literally sucks compared to the new 'fortified' orgrimmar.
    Quote Originally Posted by Varulv View Post
    SW now literally sucks
    No! Nooooooooooooo.
  1. Hircine's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by RumlyD View Post
    'Worgen District' is going to be in Darnassus:
    Noooooooooooooo! not in that god forsaken purple town! Cory Stockton, i hate you, you clown!

    So, we will be seeing the original gilneas architecture in the BG only..
  1. Lazertrooper's Avatar
    The reasons they used to 'justify' removal of path of titan is simply ridiculous. If the guild leader got no clue how to spec his guild, he's got no business leading a guild in the first place.
  1. Bucky Mclachlan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazertrooper View Post
    The reasons they used to 'justify' removal of path of titan is simply ridiculous. If the guild leader got no clue how to spec his guild, he's got no business leading a guild in the first place.
    Okay, so why don't you tell Blizzard how they can improve upon all of these systems you haven't even used at all ever and have only heard other people talk about.
  1. Seteh's Avatar
    This is pathetic...the game goes from lack of control to 'some' control back to lack of control.

    "Path of the Titans is gone":Lazy sheets "i can't level a profession". EVERY SINGLE PROFESSION 1-450 IN ONE WEEK. Don't tell me it's hard; you just suck.

    "Guild Talents are gone": Yes, because God forbid 'we' have to learn2play

    Would have been better to say "it won't make it in release"...but no. Apparently they think the playerbase is to stupid to think for itself.

    Cataclysm was suppose to revive this aging game; looks like they opted to just put it back on life support and milk it for a few more years till it's dead.
  1. johnsmith182's Avatar
    pretty good.

    ---------- Post added 06-19-2010 at 06:08 AM ----------

    Wow!!!
  1. Granyala's Avatar
    Apparently they think the playerbase is to stupid to think for itself.
    That's a well known FACT. I don't know on what Servers you are playing, but the things I see other players do / not do.... well I won't go into details, cause I would probably get banned. Suffice it to say, most WoW-gamers are unable to understand a five line Tool Tip.

    @Topic:
    PotT gone: *shrug* wayne seemed just like a Glyph expansion anyway.
    Guild Talent trees gone: Can't say much about it, cause i didn't really read it up back then.
    BSF/DM postponed: Afaik they can scrap these heroic modes all together. New Stuff >>> heroic version of Stuff I've done 19329 times on 3476282 chars. Besides: I always hated BSF, but that's just me

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