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This article was originally published in forum thread: Cataclysm Closed Beta - NDA Lift started by Boubouille View original post
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  1. Gurbz's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sytherek View Post
    So why do we need ground mounts after level 60?
    You don't really, outside of BGs and some instances. But is that such a bad thing? It's not like they take up room in bags anymore. And if you have mounts that you are particularly fond of, nobody will force you to use your flyer, apart from a few quests in Hyjal that require flying to complete.
  1. Sytherek's Avatar
    How many vehicle (shudder) quests are there?
  1. Collected's Avatar
    Lylirra on the forums is still insisting invites are being sent out today but I don't believe it.
  1. ClearlySane88's Avatar
    I get the feeling that Skywall is going to be one of my favorite 5-mans in this expanision. It's just so nice to look at.
  1. Asshi's Avatar
    Don't know if this was listed before. But here is the reorganized Pally Holy tree.
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    .... Since I lost all my old posts, I can't post links/images yet = =.
    Holy Talents
    Tier 1
    Spiritual Focus - 5 points - Reduces the pushback suffered from damaging attacks while casting Flash of Light, Holy Light, and Divine Light by 14/28/42/56/70%.
    Seals of the Pure - unchanged

    Tier 2
    Healing Light - 3 points - Increases the amount healed by your Holy Light, Flash of Light, Divine Light, and the effectiveness of Holy Shock spells by 4/8/12%.
    Divine Intellect - 5 points - Increases your total Intellect and Spirit by 1/2/3/4/5%.
    Unyielding Faith - unchanged

    Tier 3
    Aura Mastery - moved to Tier 7
    Illumination - unchanged
    Improved Lay on Hands - unchanged

    Tier 4
    Improved Concentration Aura - moved to Tier 10
    Santified Light - 3 points - increases the critical strike chance of Judgement and Holy Shock by 5/10/15%
    Improved Holy Light - 5 points - Reduces the cast time of Holy Light by .2/.4/.6/.8/1 second.
    Blessed Hands - unchanged

    Tier 5
    Pure of Heart - unchanged
    Sanctified Light - moved to Tier 4
    Divine Light - 1 point - Big Heal(Basicly new Holy Light) - 3sec cast - Requires Rank 5 Illumination.
    Divine Favor - Removed

    Tier 6
    Purifying Power - unchanged
    Holy Power - unchanged

    Tier 7
    Enlightened Judgements - moved from Tier 10 - unchanged
    Aura Mastery - moved from Tier 3 - unchanged - Requires Rank 1 Divine Light
    Blessed Life - unchanged
    Improved Holy Shock - 2 points - Reduces the mana cost of Holy Shock by 35/70%
    Light's Grace - Removed is now Improved Holy Light in tier 4

    Tier 8
    Sacred Cleansing - Unchanged
    Holy Guidence - Unchanged

    Tier 9
    Divine Illumination - Unchanged
    Judgement of the Pure - Unchanged

    Tier 10
    Infusion of Light - Unchanged - No longer tied to any other talents
    Enlightened Judgement - Moved to Tier 7
    Improved Concentration Aura - Moved from Tier 4

    Tier 11
    Beacon of Light - Only works w/ Holy Light and Holy Shock.
  1. Gurbz's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sytherek View Post
    How many vehicle (shudder) quests are there?
    Not a lot, at least in Hyjal. In fact, I can only remember three, which are all done in the same area one right after another. Maybe took 5 minutes tops. I've only done about half of Vas'jir due to broken quests, but so far I have only encountered one there.

    I do have to say that the few vehicle quests that are there are a LOT more fun than the vehicle quests in Wrath. There aren't any "We are going to put you in a vehicle for no other reason than we think vehicles are awesome" type quests. If you are doing a vehicle quests, it makes sense that you NEED to be in a vehicle.

    If you are a person who absolutely hates vehicles no matter what and think they should be struck from the game completely, all I can tell you is that the quests are quick.
  1. Asshi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gurbz View Post
    Not a lot, at least in Hyjal. In fact, I can only remember three, which are all done in the same area one right after another. Maybe took 5 minutes tops. I've only done about half of Vas'jir due to broken quests, but so far I have only encountered one there.

    I do have to say that the few vehicle quests that are there are a LOT more fun than the vehicle quests in Wrath. There aren't any "We are going to put you in a vehicle for no other reason than we think vehicles are awesome" type quests. If you are doing a vehicle quests, it makes sense that you NEED to be in a vehicle.

    If you are a person who absolutely hates vehicles no matter what and think they should be struck from the game completely, all I can tell you is that the quests are quick.
    I have to concur w/ Gurbz here. Of the vehicle quests that are available, none of them seem tedious. There are a few also from the 1-60 quests and those are pretty fun as well. =D
  1. bbr's Avatar
    Ohh sexy.
    Time to look for changes between the alpha and beta when it's up and around then ?
  1. Viertel's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by loftus View Post
    is it just me who is in love with the massive increase in stamina?

    cant wait to see those health pools!! Battlegrounds will be epic! =D
    Yes, until you realize that health pools went up dramatically from Vanilla > TBC, then from TBC > WotLK, then from WotLK> Cat. Damage also went up on a dramatic scale as well, and from the looks of the few items alone from the crafting, it will do so again.

    "We want to increase the health pools because we think that will solve the problems with battlegrounds and arenas. We'll also raise the damage people do as well, and then be shocked when it doesn't correct the problem with killing people within a 2-3 second window. Again. For the third time."
  1. Yojelle's Avatar
    Thank you Boub for even more great info!


    btw am I the only one who noticed that Tirisfal glades is in kalimdor?
  1. Asshi's Avatar
    AFAIK, in-game. Money sinks are NYI.
  1. Baever's Avatar
    The new gear itemization is a huge turn-off, like using Pokemon card game stats for a video game.
  1. bizzy's Avatar
    How come there are a lot less comments than they used to be? I remember 2k comments before the NDA was enforced now it barely has 300. Just curious.
  1. Asshi's Avatar
    Because there isn't really much that hasn't been already shown. Other than class changes, which most were show during and prior to E3.
  1. tusker's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by bizzy View Post
    How come there are a lot less comments than they used to be? I remember 2k comments before the NDA was enforced now it barely has 300. Just curious.
    Was wondering the same thing. Personally I find it more difficult to discern between posts, they almost seem to run together. Maybe I'm just not used to the layout yet.. :\
  1. Violent's Avatar
    Troll druid forms = EEEWWWWW ... Nuff said.
  1. Epsi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by bizzy View Post
    How come there are a lot less comments than they used to be? I remember 2k comments before the NDA was enforced now it barely has 300. Just curious.
    It's because this new forum design sucks monkey balls ... I find myself visiting mmo-c now once a week or so...
  1. Revengance's Avatar
    Actually cannot believe how awesome troll cat/bear form looks.
    First thing when Cata comes out will be changing my druid to a troll!
  1. Cerus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Viertel View Post
    Yes, until you realize that health pools went up dramatically from Vanilla > TBC, then from TBC > WotLK, then from WotLK> Cat. Damage also went up on a dramatic scale as well, and from the looks of the few items alone from the crafting, it will do so again.

    "We want to increase the health pools because we think that will solve the problems with battlegrounds and arenas. We'll also raise the damage people do as well, and then be shocked when it doesn't correct the problem with killing people within a 2-3 second window. Again. For the third time."
    DPS isn't intended to scale as much in Cata as it did from BC to LK. Yes all stats are going up but with all the changes they're making, level 85 scaling, talent changes, stat removal, tweaking etc they should accomplish their goal of extending PvP fights since health pools ARE going up a huge amount (and leveling out between classes/spec)

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