Update - Added the models of Cho'gall (Bastion of Twilight), Atramedes (Blackwing Descent), The Tolvirs (Uldum), Lady Nazjar (Throne of Tides), Humanoid Dragon, Earthen Onager
Update - Classes pages finally added. Talent calculator finally updated. Worst patch day ever, I need a giant hug.
Update - Added official talent trees descriptions to the primary skills list.
Update - Ok things are looking better, added the primary skills for all the classes. Some tooltips might be missing/bugged, we're working on it.

Cataclysm Beta - Build 12479
A new build of the beta is up. This post will be updated multiple times during the night.

A lot of stuff has changed and we'll need a few mins to fix everything before I can post all the content. Definitely a lot of interesting stuff, stay tuned.


Talent Calculator
WoWTal.com has been updated with all the new trees. Lot of stuff is still in dev, be careful. If you can't see the new trees push CTRL + F5 to force the refresh (Also, I know the level cap is 50, quick hack to fix the max amount of points)



Classes
Classes pages are up. I might end up doing diffs of all the changes but seriously ... there are really a LOT of changes because of the talent trees revamp, it's probably easier to just check the pages.



Models
Models of Cho'gall (Bastion of Twilight), Atramedes (Blackwing Descent), The Tolvirs (Uldum), Lady Nazjar (Throne of Tides), Humanoid Dragon, Earthen Onager




Achievements
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

  • Tripping the Rifts - Destroyed one of each type of elemental rift during the Cataclysm launch event.

Talent Trees "Primary Skills"
These skills are automatically learned when you pick your main talent tree at level 10. Thanks to Maldivia for this one.
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

Death Knight (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator)
DK - Blood
A dark guardian who manipulates and corrupts life energy to sustain himself/herself in the face of an enemy onslaught.

DK - Frost
An icy harbinger of doom, channeling runic power and delivering rapid weapon strikes.

DK - Unholy
A master of death and decay, spreading infection and controlling undead minions to do his/her bidding.

Druid (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator)
Druid - Restoration
Uses heal-over-time Nature spells to keep allies alive, taking on the form of a tree when the need is most urgent.

Druid - Feral
Takes on the form of a great cat to deal damage with bleeds and bites or a mighty bear to absorb damage and protect allies.

Druid - Balance
Can take on the form of a powerful Moonkin, balancing the power of Arcane and Nature magic to destroy enemies at a distance.

Hunter (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator)
Hunter - Marksmanship
A master archer or sharpshooter who excels in bringing down enemies from afar.

Hunter - Survival
A rugged tracker who favors using animal venom, explosives and traps as deadly weapons.

Hunter - Beast Mastery
A master of the wild who can tame a wide variety of beasts to assist him/her in combat.

Mage (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator)
Mage - Arcane
Manipulates arcane energies, playing with the very fabric of time and space.

Mage - Frost
Freezes enemies in their tracks and shatters them with Frost magic.

Mage - Fire
Ignites enemies with balls of fire and the breath of dragons.

Paladin (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator)
Paladin - Holy
Invokes the power of the Light to protect and to heal.

Paladin - Protection
Uses Holy magic to shield himself / herself and defend allies from attackers.

Paladin - Retribution
A righteous crusader who judges and punishes opponents with weapons and Holy magic.

Priest (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator)
Priest - Discipline
Uses magic to shield allies from taking damage as well as heal their wounds.

Priest - Shadow
Uses sinister Shadow magic, especially damage-over-time spells, to eradicate enemies.

Priest - Holy
A versatile healer who can reverse damage on individuals or groups and even heal from beyond the grave.

Rogue (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator)
Rogue - Combat
A swashbuckler who uses agility and guile to stand toe-to-toe with enemies.

Rogue - Assassination
A deadly master of poisons who dispatches victims with vicious dagger strikes.

Rogue - Subtlety
A dark stalker who leaps from the shadows to ambush his/her unsuspecting prey.

Shaman (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator)
Shaman - Elemental
A spellcaster who harnesses the destructive forces of nature and the elements.

Shaman - Restoration
A healer who calls upon ancestral spirits and the cleansing power of water to mend allies? wounds.

Shaman - Enhancement
A totemic warrior who strikes foes with weapons imbued with elemental power.

Warlock (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator)
Warlock - Destruction
Calls down demonic fire to burn and demolish enemies.

Warlock - Demonology
A warlock who uses both Fire and Shadow magic along with powerful demons.

Warlock - Affliction
A master of Shadow magic who specializes in fear, drains and damage-over-time spells.

Warrior (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator)
Warrior - Arms
Highly trained for battle with two-handed weapons, uses mobility and overpowering attacks to strike his / her opponents down.

Warrior - Fury
A furious berserker wielding a weapon in each hand, uses a flurry of attacks to carve his / her opponents to pieces.

Warrior - Protection
A stalwart protector that uses a shield to protect himself/herself and his/her allies.


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Deepholm available for testing
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• Level 82-83
• Breadcrumbs from Stormwind/Orgrimmar.

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This article was originally published in forum thread: Cataclysm Beta - Build 12379 started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 573 Comments
  1. MasterHamster's Avatar


    Run!!
  1. Dexiefy's Avatar
    and blizz fails with small talent trees as i expected ~~
    First they were talking about going away from cookie cutter builds but they turned trees into cookie cutter trees cause you have NO choices whatsoever...
    They might aswell create 2 buttons to each tree... pvp and pve...
    when you push pvp button, game picks for you pvp talents, if you click pve the game picks for you pve talents... cause on each tier there is exactly the same choice, pvp talent vs pve talent
    BOOOOOOOOORING... where is the diversity of talent builds?

    FAIL BLIZZARD FAIL
  1. Alraml's Avatar
    Boub quick comment, that Atramedes you've added says "Blackwing Lair" is that right or did you mean to put "Blackwing Descent"?
  1. notwarnus's Avatar
    Rukari. I agree with you on the elitistjerks comment. a lot of people do follow that, but at the same time a lot of people put in a lot of work for the smallest things for the "best" build. and even still people change specs per fight, and i maybe/am over reacting...there's no room to play wiht change. like you said there is currently like you said 2 points but depending on the fight could be up to 5 points and different glyphs (mind you glyphs aren't released yet) but now there's not wiggle room that i can see. at least the 3 classes that i play. but in pvp...why play what everyone else plays? that doesn't seem fun to me, you can't make your own build now. i've gone though like 3940812759872 different pvp builds just to be able to kill maybe one specific class on a specific day now you can do like maybe 5 different builds. with the re-introduction of being able to get good pvp gear and rating from battle grounds there should be a lot more room to play with the specs imo.
  1. boneschaman's Avatar
    /hug
  1. Sonoka's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by notwarnus View Post
    Rukari. I agree with you on the elitistjerks comment. a lot of people do follow that, but at the same time a lot of people put in a lot of work for the smallest things for the "best" build. and even still people change specs per fight, and i maybe/am over reacting...there's no room to play wiht change. like you said there is currently like you said 2 points but depending on the fight could be up to 5 points and different glyphs (mind you glyphs aren't released yet) but now there's not wiggle room that i can see. at least the 3 classes that i play. but in pvp...why play what everyone else plays? that doesn't seem fun to me, you can't make your own build now. i've gone though like 3940812759872 different pvp builds just to be able to kill maybe one specific class on a specific day now you can do like maybe 5 different builds. with the re-introduction of being able to get good pvp gear and rating from battle grounds there should be a lot more room to play with the specs imo.
    If we do it like this, write up EXACTLY what you are missing in your present PvP build that you don't have in the new one.
    Do it, then maybe you have a say in this, unless you are a rogue ofcourse.. then you never have a say.
  1. Donttakevurge's Avatar
    lol artamedes looks like a drake version of a death knight mount, his head does atleast
  1. insaha's Avatar
    the cho´gal model looks really cool, but i hoped something uglier then it xD. for the rest really nice!
  1. Vasz's Avatar
    In a way I see what Blizz tried to do, but it still needs some tweeking. Instead of getting 5% damage 1/2/3/4/5% over 5 lvls, we now get 2/4/6% over 6 lvls. A bit of an exaggeration for all specs, but it's in a few trees.
  1. Sonoka's Avatar
    I really like the look on the Tolvirs and Lady Nazjar, awesome work there! Just awesome!
  1. Milanor's Avatar
    Ah, so Dragonman finally got a skin. Cool beans. I wonder if we might find any more interesting models...
  1. Aras's Avatar
    Those new talent trees seem interesting.
  1. MasterHamster's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dexiefy View Post
    and blizz fails with small talent trees as i expected ~~
    BOOOOOOOOORING... where is the diversity of talent builds?

    FAIL BLIZZARD FAIL
    It's there. But now there's no choice between [USELESS TALENT] and [WORTHLESS TALENT] anymore.

    Lawl, in the end no one will care, yet even though it's the first beta build with the new talents (like, most 5 point talents have just been reduced to 3 without giving the same bonus) and people who are so scared of changes are going crazy about it. Yup. There are less talents, since the useless ones are going to be imbedded in others.

    While others are crying about how this breaks the game, I see the change's potential to make the game better overall.
    Of course, you need to be able to think a bit further than first glance to do so, something most here seem to be completely incapable of.

    I dread how the official forums are, considering that most posters there are the type that would shout "PVP WILL DIE" if Blizzard made an trivial change, say increasing the rating req on PvP items by 5.
  1. Lumennon's Avatar
    *gives Bibi a giant hug*
  1. Granyala's Avatar
    We’ll still have room for extra flavorful talents and room for player customization, but we can trim a great deal of fat from each tree. The idea isn’t to give players fewer choices, but to make those choices feel more meaningful.

    Is this a joke? Because If you look closely, you'll see I'm not laughing. While I understand that shadows-tree is far from done, THERE ARE NO CHOICES!

    Hell I can't even afford the 3 Points for silence without sacrificing a lot of potential DPS anymore.

    Greetings
    Granyala

    P.S: Darkness is still in there? I hope it's just a placeholder to be able to get "down". If not:
    FAIL
  1. Aminozuur's Avatar
    Well removing the boring/useless talents . Why is lolwell still there when did we use that thing? Never?
  1. notwarnus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonoka View Post
    If we do it like this, write up EXACTLY what you are missing in your present PvP build that you don't have in the new one.
    Do it, then maybe you have a say in this, unless you are a rogue ofcourse.. then you never have a say.
    how did you know my main is a rogue...but still i play other classes in pvp, warrior, mage and yeah most of it is going back to being a rogue for pvp because i can no longer get prep.
  1. Athinah's Avatar
    /hug
  1. ashblond's Avatar
    so, dk will tank in blood presence and dps in frost presence from the talent trees i have seen
  1. Warlock1337's Avatar
    You guys tend to see this new talent tree from "max-level" perspective, try to see it from "leveling" perspective. The real interesting about the talent tree changes is not all about the trimming and slimming down the tree, it is actually about the passive and active abilities you get while level up by putting a point into the tree. For example, before this, you never feel like you are a destruction lock because you don't get conflagrate until level 40, now you get conflagrate when u put 1 point into destruction tree. Sure, the new 31 talent tree might "looks" boring, but the talent tree today is no way better, it's not like we have varieties of raid spec though.

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