Muffins Presents Cataclysm Part 1: Kalimdor
Muffins released a pretty nice video of the Beta servers and this should give you a pretty good idea of how things changed in Kalimdor after the Cataclysm.





Forums Requiring Authenticator Code
Originally Posted by Bashiok (Blue Tracker)
As a part of our ongoing dedication to account security, players who utilize authenticators on their account will now be asked to enter it upon their first time logging into the forums, and then periodically thereafter. By ensuring that, even if their account is compromised, without the attached authenticator their login credentials can’t be used. This additional security layer helps to better protect players in all services accessed by logging in with their account and password.

We’d like to urge all players who don’t already use one to please consider attaching an authenticator to help protect themselves and their accounts. Information on how to obtain an authenticator as well as additional account security information can be found at: http://www.battle.net/security/

BlizzCon 2010 Virtual Ticket Now On Sale
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker)
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Anyone who orders the event will also receive this year's BlizzCon-exclusive World of Warcraft in-game item. In addition, for the first time, BlizzCon 2010 Virtual Ticket holders will have access to exclusive BlizzCon merchandise.

To order or learn more, visit the BlizzCon 2010 Internet stream or DIRECTV sign-up offer pages.

Blue posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

Increased HP on Cataclysm creatures
The speed at which a green geared level 80 coming out of Northrend kills creatures in these zones is more in line with what we expect for and from combat times. Raid geared level 80s will still kill level 80 NPCs in under 10 seconds, but at least they will be able to fire off a few abilities before the creature is killed.

Furthermore, upon completion of the first series of quests in Hyjal or Vashj'ir, quest geared level 80 from Northrend should see a significant jump in power due to quest reward itemization. (Source)

Optional and Situational Talents
Exactly. This is the kind of thing a lot of players are going to have to get used to, and frankly, it's a paradigm shift we are still adjusting too as well. We want there to be some talents where you say "Hmmm. I'm not sure I want that." The "Hmmm" is key. If everyone can instantly can dismiss a given talent as garbage, then it's not a decision. It's also not a decision if you are comparing say Selfless Healer to a +10% self damage talent on a primary ability. (Source)

[...] There are going to be non-negotiable talents. We don't really want to make the Prot spec that skips Hammer of the Righteous to be competitive. We don't want every talent to feel like that though. (Source)

Glyphs on Beta
You'd be better off just ignoring glyphs completely at this point. Trying to view the talent changes through the lens of old glyphs is just going to lead to strange feedback. This is true of every class. We have turned off some glyphs in beta that really change gameplay to the extent that it will mess up feedback. Perhaps we should just turn them all off until we work on glyphs. (Source)

Tanks Stamina curves
Since I am sure it will be asked based on that info, paladins and warriors have the same Stamina curves now. A naked warrior and paladin of the same race will have the same health at 85. Both Protection trees get the same amount of Stamina as a passive. That number will likely be something like 10 or 15% Stamina depending on tuning. (In our current build it is 15%.) In similar gear, their health should be very similar. We'll provide the differences in their cooldowns and how they tank. DKs and druids are likely to have different amounts of health as well.

Again, this could change. (Source)

Shield and Tanking Weapons Itemization
We are making two kinds of shield (healer and tank) and one-handed tanking weapons. We are trying to make all of the tanking weapons about the same speed (no slow vs. fast). With all of the changes, using a one-handed Str weapon might be a reasonable substitute in many cases. We might eventually decide to no longer make tanking weapons (since druids and DKs don't really have them) but we're still doing it for now. (Source)

Paladin (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Crusader Strike
We have been trying Crusader Strike out at both 3 seconds and 4 seconds to see what fits the best. At the moment it is 3 sec (talented) for Ret and 4 sec for Prot and Holy. It all depends on how many other things are going on that you have to juggle. Inquisition, Zealotry and Exorcism and Divine Purpose procs in addition to the basics of CS, TV and Judgement with Holy Wrath filling in any holes can add up to a lot.

While we definitely want Ret to have an actual rotation in the sense that you aren't just hitting things when they come off of cooldown, we don't want to make it more complex than the other dps specs in the game. (Source)

Haste effect on Seal of Vengeance and Judgement of the Wise
Excellent question. It isn't a talent, but Seal of Truth (Seal of Vengeance) will tick faster with haste and Judgement of the Wise's periodic mana energize will tick faster with haste. A Ret paladin with enough haste might have enough mana to throw out the occasional Consecration, while a fresh 85 might not be able to afford it often. (Source)

Divine Guardian / Divine Protection
Divine Guardian doesn't affect the paladin. Otherwise we feared it would just get used as another tank cooldown instead of for the raid utility for which it was intended.

We're strongly considering changing Divine Protection into a short cooldown. It is currently a clone of Shield Wall. Considering the paladin 85 also offers strong emergency damage reduction, we thought they could use a short cooldown ability (say 30-60 sec). Shield Block for warriors is being repositioned more as a short cooldown ability. (Source)

Avenger's Shield
Avenger's Shield silences as a baseline effect. It no longer dazes, since all that seemed to accomplish was making pulling take longer. (Source)

Righteous Fury
Righteous Fury now affects all threat. (Source)

Holy Shield and Glyph of Salvation
I'm not optimistic that we'll keep the Salv glyph, but we'll see. As to Holy Shield, it is going through rapid iteration. Our current implementation has it providing 5% block per stack of Holy Power, up to a max of 15%. So you can use Holy Power for threat, healing or mitigation depending on current circumstances. You should be able to keep the 15% block up all the time with a very small amount of effort.

Warriors get 15% block baseline, so this means the paladin has to work harder for it. Seeing as how the paladin doesn't have to maintain Demo Shout or Thunderclap's debuff, this doesn't seem too great a burden. (Source)

Let Holy Wrath apply Vindication
This is, in fact, exactly what we did. (Source)

Is Paladin getting too complicated?
As a response to some of the sky falling rhetoric in this thread (not specifically the post I quoted, which was worded quite reasonably) and others like it, allow me to offer the following:

We have said many times in the past several months that we don't think paladins have enough going on. Now that we're starting to deliver on that, it doesn't surprise me at all to see some concern that things are changing. I'm sure there are some players out there that just really liked the 6969 rotation, but in a game as large as WoW, there are some players who like anything. We need to do what we think is right for the game, and that includes adding some depth to the paladin class. Our goal is to make the class more fun. We don't expect every forum poster is going to 100% agree that we're going about that in the same way they would. We think in the end though that the class will be more fun. (Source)

Holy Power: Will this get a new UI element similar to the Warlock shards or Rogue combo points?
Yes. (Source)

Touched by the Light
Prot paladins get it as a passive. It converts Str to spell power but does not affect healing. Part of what we're trying to do is get paladins to specialize more and be less capable of doing everything with one spec. (Source)

Word of Glory and Inquisition
All paladins can use the heal (Word of Glory) and the self-buff (Inquisition). Prot paladins have a talent to allow them to get a defensive use (Holy Shield). Proper use of Holy Power will distinguish a good paladin from a bad, but the system is far more forgiving than combo points. Consider that if you totally ignored Holy Shield you'd be giving up 15% block. Decent, but not life-threatening. (Source)
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Comments 95 Comments
  1. slimj091's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Drudatz View Post
    a) you can get that authenticator for free if you have an iphone or look at ej's forum
    b) there are tons of ways to get a free & legal cc in europe


    a) even if you get hacked while having an auth attached to your account the stealer cant detach it without having access to your stuff to proove he is you and so cant put another auth on.
    b) the forums are not there to qq about being hacked...
    he's talking about how account hackers put authenticators on accounts that they hack in order to stop the account holder from being able to change the password if they happen to interuppt their pillaging of the account. it's very common these day's, and more than likely the reason why authenticators are sold out quickly after they go back on sale in the blizzard store.
  1. napoleon390's Avatar
    Ordered an authenticator today as I found out my account been hacked grrr Good thing I didnt have too much gold on my charecters.
  1. Drek'thar's Avatar
    Yay! the new panel thing is amazing
  1. Lazertrooper's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Maerad View Post
    Hmmmm ... looks like I have to explain some things here.

    First of all I'm 28 years, a parent myself with two kids and I'm from germany.

    Usually we don't use credit cards here - only around 20% of all ppl actually have a credit card. Here, or better said in europe you got a debit card - similar working - you can choose a "credit ammount" you can use (something like 1000€ more then you actually have) BUT the ammont will be booked almost instantly off your account. Not like a credit card and the monthly charge. And if the limits gone .. well ..

    Credit cards are not to common here, because you can't pay at the most "everyday" stores with them, they charge you a nice monthly usage fee and the additional charge for transaction kicks in too. Ok, some banks offer you a free card or something like this, but then you have some other restrictions. We just don't need a credit card here. If I want to buy something online I use my direct debit, pay upfront, use paypal or - like I pay the wow fee - I just do it over the phone bill.

    The App won't work too, because I don't have a comp. mobile / cell phone / handy. An option would be a usual store, but actually they can't buy / get an auth from blizzard, I already tried that.

    It would be the best I could use the same payment options in the store like I do when I pay my woe fee. And no, I don't want to get a CC here, because you have to fill out a fuckload of stuff for it and they want to know where you work, how much you get etc. pp.

    Btw. sorry for my bad english
    debit cards work as credit cards on the internet, either you are trolling, or you are ignorant, or debit cards in your country suck donkey ass.
  1. mmoc0d8e6c2903's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazertrooper View Post
    debit cards work as credit cards on the internet, either you are trolling, or you are ignorant, or debit cards in your country suck donkey ass.
    An ignorant (since you don't know anything about German debit cards but still talk about the topic) troll calling someone with valid points an ignorant troll is........priceless
  1. Vengeblade's Avatar
    With all this talk about credit cards, I can't help but laugh a bit. Not every country does things the same way that we do here in the USA. We area very different country and people need to realize that before make assumptions about other countries, its not hard. Some people just don't get the same access like we do and there are usually some very good security/financial/political reason why they have such differences.

    That being said, I wonder if the reason the Blizzard store doesn't have more options being more of a legal.tax issue rather than a technical one. Even with as open as world trade is, there are tons of laws and rules. Then there is the regulations and taxes, because everyone wants a piece of the pie.

    Not sure why they can't ship them to certain retail stores, but I wonder if it has to do with their manufacturing process for activating them or such. But that's not my field so any insight would be appreciated.
  1. Lazertrooper's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Baikalsan View Post
    An ignorant (since you don't know anything about German debit cards but still talk about the topic) troll calling someone with valid points an ignorant troll is........priceless
    Then your debit cards suck, just as I said.

    And is it my fault that people are retarded enough to give the same name to different things? And no, I'm not even from the US, and even our crappy debit cards can be used online.
  1. mmoce04a3b2ccc's Avatar
    Avenger's Shield
    Avenger's Shield silences as a baseline effect. It no longer dazes, since all that seemed to accomplish was making pulling take longer. (Source)


    Ok, let's break it down:

    Warriors -> all speccs have a in combat charge.
    Druid -> feral DPS and tank have both a charge or a jump for cats, whatever.
    DK -> death grip for all speccs.


    Even if it's beta, there were absolutely no gap closer announced for paladins - so I'm asking, wth Blizzard things by removing our only "gap closer", even if it's shit to begin with.
  1. raw_toe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Maerad View Post
    Hmmmm ... looks like I have to explain some things here.
    Just curious, how do you pay your monthly subscription fee for WoW? I can't imagine mailing them a check each month ><.

    anyway, your best option is going to be to get a friend with a card to just buy the authenticator for you. It's not that expensive, pay them in cash and get them a beer for their trouble.
  1. Furbolger's Avatar
    Can anyone tell me what music that is with those videos, it's awesome.

    Also, needing a creditcard for stuff is very annoying, since 100% of the adult population having one does indeed seem to be a very anglo/american thing, and living on credit is not so common in mainland Europe. On that note, enjoy the financial crisis.
  1. Aletheria's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rifee View Post
    I'm having a hard time believing that someone in a european country that has both internett, and computer and world of warcraft, as well as being an ADULT don't have a credit card. I personally don't know anyone above 18 who doesn't have one. Unless their country is 40 years behind : /
    Hi. Neither myself nor my fiance have credit cards. I'm 26 and he's 25, and we live in England.
  1. Taiki420's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Aletheria View Post
    Hi. Neither myself nor my fiance have credit cards. I'm 26 and he's 25, and we live in England.
    The solution here would be... to get a credit card.

    I like how all of you keep claiming that such a low percentage of Europeans have credit cards, as if that is keeping you from getting one yourself.
  1. foogy's Avatar
    I find it strange that not more people have credit cards nowadays. There's only been one country where I ran into a few minor problems using my Visa, and that's Poland, but they've got ATM's on every corner so no biggie. I've been to London, no problems at all. I've been to Germany, no problems at all, didn't encounter any problems in Spain either. I live in Norway, so being a regular customer in Sweden and Denmark is a standard, and I've never been denied using my Visa. So maybe you should stop including Europe in your crusade against credit cards. Everyone I know owns a Visa.

    I can't use money that I don't have. Visa doesn't work like that. If I don't have money, I can't use my credit card. Mastercard on the other hand, that's the devils work. I don't like being able to spend what I don't have either, so I cut it in pieces the second I got it. (I was given a mastercard with my Visa)

    I don't know if you're not able to get a Visa in your country, and if that is the case, then this post isn't directed towards you.
  1. Jackdemenzes's Avatar
    As a side note regarding country differences, until recently I worked for a certain Melbourne newspaper that in 2009 finally made the big switch to a pre-payment system for advertising (the last paper under that company to do so, I believe). Some of our customers cracked it as they used to be invoiced until that point (although to be fair to us, just before the change our unpaid invoices were reaching about 30%). Anyway, the big line I got the most was "I don't believe in credit cards". Now, I was good at making other arrangements, get them to place their garage sale ad at the newsagent and have them pay cash, whatever, but I was always thinking, you know, I don't believe in Leonardo DiCaprio but it doesn't make him go away.

    The other thing I heard a lot was "I'm old, I don't have a credit card". Say what? I really hope I don't disconnect with society that much when I'm older, people seem to form this belief of "these things are for young people so I can't/don't have to bother". I'm 28 mind you, aware of my mortality but young enough to still be horrified at this thought process...I mean, I knew this guy in his early 70s who went from "learning computers" to putting them together for friends, and I thought that was awesome.

    Oh wait that was a complete tangent! ANYWAY.

    As a side note, I don't think I've ever owed more than $50 on my card, I use it purely for online purchases/places where CC is required, then transfer the money back to cover the difference. I don't think I've ever been charged interest. This thread makes me realise I probably should get a Visa debit! (although having two seperate withdrawal limits came in handy recently).
  1. Noldi's Avatar
    "Touched by the Light" - sounds to me like an incoming lawsuit for the Church of Stormwind.
  1. Thacks's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Taiki420 View Post
    The solution here would be... to get a credit card.

    I like how all of you keep claiming that such a low percentage of Europeans have credit cards, as if that is keeping you from getting one yourself.
    If a low percentage of Europeans have credit cards, it clearly shows that the way of thinking in Europe is that Credit cards are not needed or even that useful. I personally don`t know why anyone would get a credit card.
  1. AVPaul's Avatar
    Paladins gets too much love from Blizzard - that's why we hate them)))
  1. Second's Avatar
    Using auth. if you have it attached to access forums seems like good idea to make security same level whenever you use the account. I know it can be harsh to have to use it to post some comment but see above. Those voices about reducing number of users using forums are kinda overreacting this time, its not like RealID, this is to improve security - or better put to make it same level everywhere. I agree with such change.

    Also as someone mentioned - sending auth. with retail box would do Blizz a great job, even if they charge you for that (game + auth.). There are yet some people who cant use it tho, like myself due to many different reasons (minor living at different place i live at - sending code over net kinda beats the idea of auth.)

    Also whats with the credit card disscusion ? I remember not having one five years ago and getting one mostly becouse of paying WoW. Ever heard of different countries being different ? You dont have to bash them for not using same tool you do. That is just being ignorant.
  1. Linkynl's Avatar
    Authenticator for the forums...im trying to get such a thing for decades now...but i don't own a creditcard...

    Which i gues, im not the only one...Did Blizard even think of that...Why is the blizzard store the only place where you need a creditcard anyway? Why can i spend 100 dollar/euro, to a sex/server/race/name change with Ideal, or Blizards own paying method on one place, but must i have a creditcard, on the other place...

    NOT a smart move
  1. Girlyman's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Baikalsan View Post
    An ignorant (since you don't know anything about German debit cards but still talk about the topic) troll calling someone with valid points an ignorant troll is........priceless
    I see what you did there.


    Quote Originally Posted by raw_toe View Post
    Just curious, how do you pay your monthly subscription fee for WoW? I can't imagine mailing them a check each month ><.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maerad View Post
    If I want to buy something online I use my direct debit, pay upfront, use paypal or - like I pay the wow fee - I just do it over the phone bill.
    Edit:
    Music from

    First video
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    6:20 - Two Steps From Hell - Protectors Of The Earth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlL_-5VfQJI

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    2:20 - Two Steps From Hell - Invincible

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