Beta Level Cap, Zul'gurub Raid Gone, Blue Posts

Mini blue posts update while we wait for the beta realms to go online.

Level Cap is now 85
Originally Posted by Valnoth (Blue Tracker)
Twilight Highlands and Uldum are now open and ready for testing. You will need to do both zones to reach max level. It should also be noted that neither zone is 100% complete. Please refer to the quest forum for feedback:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...753&sid=2000#0

Zul'gurub gone as a raid in Cataclysm
Originally Posted by Valnoth (Blue Tracker)
Zul'Gurub is gone as a raid instance come Cataclysm.

Streaming Launcher Improvements
Originally Posted by Lylirra (Blue Tracker)
We recently released a new Cataclysm beta launcher that allows you to stream game data while you play. We've received a lot of feedback from you regarding this new feature, and that feedback has allowed us to improve the player experience significantly.

In the next beta patch, you'll receive a new Cataclysm beta launcher that includes several updates to in-game streaming. Here's a quick preview of some of the upcoming changes:


  • Improved three-stage progress bar
  • Download speed improvements
  • Detailed peer-to-peer connection information
  • Bandwidth detection, which will improve the play experience of those with low bandwidth
  • New UI with a Cataclysm-inspired theme
  • Many bug fixes

We encourage you to continue posting your feedback about the streaming launcher, as we're constantly looking for ways to get you into the game faster and more smoothly.

Thank you!


Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

Dungeons testing
All dungeons should be available for testing. (Source)

[Feedback] Twilight Highlands
Twilight Highlands is ready for testing. It is not yet fully implemented, so you will run into stopping points. Please keep all feedback in this thread.

• Level 84-85 (though for this push of the beta minimum level for quests has been set to 83. Enjoy getting pounded!)
• Breadcrumbs from Stormwind and Orgrimmar (speak to Varian/Garrosh to begin) (Source)

[Feedback] Uldum
Uldum is ready for testing. It is not yet fully implemented, so you will run into stopping points. Please keep all feedback in this thread.

• Level 83-84
• Breadcrumbs from Deepholm (Reliquary and Explorers' League NPCs in Temple of Earth).
• Quests start in southwestern Tanaris at the caravan. (Source)

Hunter (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Attacks Scaling
Most of these attack still scale from weapon damage. We just changed them from say 200% weapon damage to 100% weapon damage with a higher attack power component. We want weapon damage to matter, but not quite as much as it does on live.

As an example, Chimera Shot now says: "An instant shot that causes weapon damage plus N, refreshing your Serpent Sting and triggering an effect depending on the venom on the target...". (Source)

Paladin (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Seal of Insight
Seal of Insight will improve your mana regen and self healing. It will give you a little of each if you only Judge and give you more (but not a broken amount) if you're ever in a position where you can melee the target. There is also a glyph to improve your healing while Insight is active. I'll concede that running a Seal is probably more important for a Ret or perhaps even Prot paladin than a Holy paladin, but there's still no reason not to do so. (Source)

Seal of Justice / Righteousness
Seal of Righteousness and Seal of Justice didn't merge. Seal of Righteousness is unchanged. We just added a little damage to Seal of Justice so that paladins didn't have to give up all Seal damage (and talents etc. that affect them) in order to get the Justice effect. (Source)

Selfless Healer change
We buffed it to 50/100% more healing when used on others (up from 30/60%). These numbers are unlikely to be final. (Source)

Shaman (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Thunderstorm removed from Elemental Reach
It buffed Thunderstorm from 10 to 12 yards, which is pretty hard to even notice. (Source)

Warlock (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
New Life Tap
Life Tap scaling with spellpower was proving hard to balance. We buffed Drain Life as well, so you should be able to Life Tap once and then Drain Life your way back up. (Source)
This article was originally published in forum thread: Beta Level Cap, Zul'gurub Raid Gone, Blue Posts started by Boubouille View original post
Published on 2010-09-01 04:53 AM
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  1. Eruanne's Avatar
    Over five pages and NOBODY mentions that they didn't say if/when they have/will turn Goblins back on!? D:
  1. Snakeeye's Avatar
    Not everyone can solo farm the mount bosses either. Rogues can barely do it on the raptor boss, and soloing him requires the rogue to go out of the way by getting Lifeward enchants on both weapons, using a lot of buffs (food, potions, etc.) and tanking trinkets (Corroded Skeleton Key).

    Kind of sucks bringing someone else along in that sense since it would only be fair then to let them roll on the mounts too.
  1. Wolfie of Medivh's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Snakeeye View Post
    Not everyone can solo farm the mount bosses either. Rogues can barely do it on the raptor boss, and soloing him requires the rogue to go out of the way by getting Lifeward enchants on both weapons, using a lot of buffs (food, potions, etc.) and tanking trinkets (Corroded Skeleton Key).

    Kind of sucks bringing someone else along in that sense since it would only be fair then to let them roll on the mounts too.
    Wouldn't it be real nice if they just let us buy the mounts for being exalted with the Zandalar tribe?
  1. Zaerix's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kongkim View Post
    Could be nice if i didn't have to be in a raid every time i went for them.
    I never understood the reasoning behind having to be in a raid group to enter raids. It serves no practical purpose as far as I can tell, since you can't solo trash or bosses in current raids (Not counting the occasional creative one who manages to solo something like Flame Leviathan or Patchwork) and the only thing of value you could get from soloing old raids are gold, items for flavor (Either a cool effect or model), outdated recipes for the person who absolutely needs every recipe, or pets/mounts.
  1. mmoc67f9034253's Avatar
    lol got my Tiger on the first kill over a year and a half ago, it's ok Blizzard i don't mind if you remove ZG!

    ---------- Post added 2010-09-01 at 10:24 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfieone View Post
    Wouldn't it be real nice if they just let us buy the mounts for being exalted with the Zandalar tribe?
    nooooo, then every single person would have them.
  1. bbr's Avatar
    Guess we'll have to farm our tiger and raptor while we can...

    Kind of silly they are removing it though... Really don't see any reason to it..
  1. Nectroyn84's Avatar
    Was there a reason why they got rid of the Amani War Bear?
    Was there a reason why they got rid of the Swift Zhevra?
  1. mmocf5506a8821's Avatar
    ZG gone ? this mean you cant get Zulian Tiger anymore? or does it mean you can enter the place without bieng in a raid group and still farm it?
  1. Dayaca's Avatar
    ZG nooooooooooo.
    I've got my tiger so I don't really care all that much, but still, it's a pretty cool place.
  1. Kallixenia's Avatar
    Heh, I'm so glad I got both mounts. I can totally see Blizz making it a 5-man, but yanking the mounts out and "retiring" them.

    Although I'm sure the QQing about the mounts going away (if they do) will be heard across the solar system. One of my guildies was already whining about the possibility.

    Anyone looking to try for the mounts, remember, the raid lockout is only 3 days, so you can try more than once per week. GL!
  1. Crosis's Avatar
    They could just turn it into something like the timelost proto. Like a really rare spawn idk. Kinda sucks since im reactivating for cata and i wanna get both mounts on my new worgen like i did on my dk =(
  1. Magnett's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Reublucian View Post
    nooooo, then every single person would have them.
    Because they don't already...? Except for the ones that rolled the wrong class and it's a pain in the ass for them to solo it, that is. Having a tiger doesn't make you a unique snowflake.
  1. Gogetters's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Reublucian View Post
    nooooo, then every single person would have them.
    Oh no! You won't be "Special" anymore since it would be even more common. HA!
    If you want to be "Special" then go after the Phoenix mount or Time-Lost. I've only seen them once while every damn person has the ZG mounts.


    Personally i don't care about the mounts (don't have them and don't care about them) but i want to know what will happen to all of the bijous, Zandalar rep and quests.
  1. Kolenka's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyocere View Post
    If X is 300 then X+200 nerfed to X+150 is still a nerf.
    If X is 500 then X+200 nerfed to X+150 is still a nerf.
    If X is 100 then X+200 nerfed to X+150 is still a nerf.

    It doesn't matter when X is. When numbers go down you do less dps.
    That isn't the case with hunters though. Can you say that X+200 changed to X*Y+150 is still a nerf without knowing more than "Y>1.0"?

    That's the problem. You can't just take the reduction of weapon damage contribution to an ability by itself and claim nerf. Not when the attack power contribution is going up in response. I suspect that hunter change is specifically meant to change it so that the hunter's weapon isn't such a huge part of that ability's damage. That means you can get the ability to scale better off of more agility than you could before. And that means armor pieces can contribute a larger portion of DPS than normal.

    Bears currently have similar threat scaling issues. So much AP comes from the weapon that the weapon being upgraded is the single largest way to improve druid threat. On the order of being barely able to hold threat with a 245 weapon in ICC, to getting a 264 weapon and your DPS/threat jump 20%.
  1. Herrera's Avatar
    You can still spend your spare time farming the Raven, which imo Raven > ZG tiger.
  1. Liamxsquee's Avatar
    I don't seem to be able to get onto the beta servers i log all of my details in and all i choose the type of the server normal, PVP etc. I get nothing. Do it need to change anything to the realm list?

    set realmlist public-beta.logon.battle.net
    set patchlist public-test.patch.battle.net:1119/patch
    set realmlistbn ""
    set portal public-beta
    SET serverAlert "SERVER_ALERT_BETA_URL"

    ??????????????
  1. Pewed's Avatar
    Gief beta servers online.. NAOW!
  1. Butcher's Avatar
    NOOOOOOO
    My favourite Instance GONE!!
  1. rejer13's Avatar
    Still no goblin mount ingame? We still have to run (warlock mount cant be grabbed from bs)
  1. bigdad09260's Avatar
    There aint no ZG anymore, shame on you Blizzard!!!
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