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Cataclysm Dungeon - Updated Loot List
More loot appeared on beta realms and we now have a good idea of what to expect in level 85 dungeons in normal mode. I'm not an expert in theorycrafting but I'm pretty sure that something like Wild Hammer will make you unequip your Shadowmourne. (Reminder: No screenshots yet, models aren't implemented)

ilvlTypeSpecSlotItem
333DaggerMelee DPSOne-HandWindwalker Blade
333DaggerSpellMain HandModgud's Blade
333MaceTankOne-HandMace of Transformed Bone
333MaceMeleeTwo-HandWild Hammer
333Off-HandSpellOff-handBook of Origination
333ShieldTankOff HandBulwark of the Primordial Mound
333StaffHealTwo-HandSoul Releaser
333StaffSpellTwo-HandStaff of Siphoned Essences
333SwordMeleeOne-HandSun Strike
333SwordSpellMain HandBlade of the Burning Sun
333ThrownPhysicalThrownSlashing Thorns
333WandSpell, HealRangedWand of Untainted Power
333PlateTankHandsFingers of Light
333PlateMeleeChestBreastplate of the Risen Land
333PlateTankShoulderEarthshape Pauldrons
333PlateMeleeWaistBelt of the Forgemaster
333PlateTankWristArmguards of Unearthly Light
333PlateHealLegsLegguards of Noon
333PlateHealWristBracers of Umbral Mending
333MailPhysicalFeetRed Scale Boots
333MailPhysicalHeadWildhammer Riding Helm
333MailPhysicalShoulderBloodpetal Mantle
333MailSpell, HealFeetDark Iron Chain Boots
333MailSpell, HealWaistBelt of Petrified Tears
333LeatherPhysicalChestVest of Misshapen Hides
333LeatherPhysicalWaistRed Beam Cord
333LeatherPhysicalWristPoison Fang Bracers
333LeatherSpell, HealChestCursed Skardyn Vest
333LeatherSpell, HealFeetAwakening Footfalls
333LeatherSpell, HealWaistUnderworld Cord
333ClothHealFeetHekatic Slippers
333ClothHealLegsCurse-Tainted Leggings
333ClothHealWristCrimsonborne Bracers
333ClothSpellChestRobes of Rampant Growth
333ClothSpellHeadCrown of Enfeebled Bodies
333ClothSpellLegsLegwraps of Astral Rain
333CloakTankBackShroud of Dark Memories
333CloakHealBackSolar Wind Cloak
333CloakHealBackAzureborne Cloak
333FingerMeleeFingerNova Band
333FingerTankFingerTemple Band
333FingerMeleeFingerUmbriss Band
333FingerMeleeFingerCircle of Bone
333FingerPhysicalFingerRing of Blinding Stars
333FingerPhysicalFingerRing of Dun Algaz
333FingerHealFingerBand of Life Energy
333FingerSpellFingerBand of Rays
333FingerSpellFingerAbandoned Dark Iron Ring
333NeckTankNeckDarkhowl Amulet
333NeckMeleeNeckSeedling Pod
333NeckMeleeNeckMouth of the Earth
333NeckSpellNeckCharm of the Muse
333TrinketTankTrinketThrongus's Finger
333TrinketHealTrinketBlood of Isiset
333TrinketHealTrinketCorrupted Egg Shell
333TrinketMeleeTrinketRight Eye of Rajh
333TrinketMeleeTrinketMark of Khardros
333TrinketPhysicalTrinketLeft Eye of Rajh
333TrinketPhysicalTrinketSkardyn's Grace
333TrinketSpellTrinketAnhuur's Hymnal
333TrinketSpellTrinketGale of Shadows



Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

Downranking
The problem with downranking that we hated, and the reason we killed it, wasn't because players were being clever by using cheaper heals when they needed a smaller heal. That's good gameplay and the kind of thing the new model should reward. The part of downranking that was broken, was that the coefficients matter so much more than the base points that you could maintain mana forever by casting a heal that was only slightly less effective. That wasn't gaming the numbers. That was breaking them. (Source)

Paladin (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Healing as ... retribution
I said holy gear in a ret spec. And why would the heals be small? In a raid environment, the ret spec could have as much as 2000 more sp than a similarly geared holy paladin because of Sheath of Light and various buffs to AP. This alone would show how little scaling of healing spells the holy tree provides.
We'll look into it and make sure it's not viable. We've certainly had cases in the past where the conversion factors that let Ret not be terrible at healing look really attractive to someone actually wearing healing gear. (Source)

Warrior (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Heroic Leap
This ability has a lot of history because we tried it once before. For the Cataclysm version, we received a lot of feedback originally that Heroic Leap just didn't distinguish itself enough from Charge etc. any more. This is a world with Juggernaut and Warbringer after all. We discussed that feedback and understood where warriors were coming from, so we redesigned it so that players could choose where they would leap to. We think the current implementation has lot of different uses. No, it can't get you over canyons or up to ledges, but how often will those case legitimately arise? The potential exploits were the ability that unfettered would be enormous, and reducing those is what let us offer Heoic Leap as it is in the first place. It's a useful ability now. We can experiment with visual effect and height and that sort of thing. I understand from reading this thread that there are players who would design a different ability were they in our shoes. That's fine. This is a subjective business. (Source)

Slam
Slam is a controversial ability for sure, but we know there are Arms warriors who considered the height of skill of their class to be when they had to line up the Slam swing time in between their Mortal Strikes. It's not for everyone, for sure, but with Improved Slam and Bloodsurge and being able to move, it really isn't asking too much of you. Yeah you'll screw it up sometimes, but it won't be a catastrophic dps loss when you do.

We've seen just a ton of feedback in the past few weeks on lots of different abilities for different classes that essentially comes down to "X is too hard to use." We think overall that WoW's combat is pretty forgiving. We really don't think this is the time where we need to be making everything much harder to screw up. Simple is good. Confusing is bad. But abilities or rotations that are challenging are good for the game to a point. (Source)

MMO Report
Someone stole Casey for the week, but the MMO Report is still around!



Comics
Dark Legacy Comics #254 and Teh Gladiators #164 + #165 are out.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Cataclysm Dungeon Loot, Blue Posts, Comics started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 111 Comments
  1. Fulbright's Avatar
    What kind of a man does the MMO Report without his shirt on?

    A WINNER!
  1. Strafer's Avatar
    Crazy stats.
  1. Blur4stuff's Avatar
    I have a feeling that the majority of people are gonna simply think, "you can only play 8 hours per week in FF14" regardless if that's exactly how it works. That's all they're gonna hear or see. They have completely mishandled the communication on this. I read some forums and have tried to learn more about it, but I'm still not 100% clear as to how it works. This means that anyone who hears or reads about it in passing will turn their nose up at the game and laugh at them being so stupid. Even if everything being reported about it isn't true.

    Square/Enix has let the community decide how it gets reported and explained. They just fucked themselves out of many thousands of subs.
  1. Maeno's Avatar
    "It's like when my dad kisses me on the mouth." So damn funny.
  1. AdamsGaming's Avatar
    Woowww MMO Report ftw lol!
  1. Voltarus's Avatar
    Those are level 83 weapons, in a level 85 dungeon?
    *dreams*
    I hope they'll only upgrade the heroic loot to 85, and let no epics drop
  1. megiechan's Avatar
    Like Brittany said MMO Report got it completely wrong about the exp system in FFXIV. You get 8 hours of 100% exp, every hour after that reduces the amount of exp you gain until the percent is 0. No that is not 8 hours straight, the way it is, is that its actually a exp cap. Say there was no restrictions and you can gain say 15k exp in an 8 hour period grind fest, the way you gain exp in FFXIV is say you constantly kill stuff none stop you will see a reduced exp gain since your killing fast getting closer to the cap. If you say kill something every 5 to 10 mins you will get more exp then if you killed none stop. So once you reach the 8 hour exp cap you will start to get a reduced base exp for every hour.

    Now to counter this after the 8 hour exp cap is reached you switch class to something and start lvling, you will gain 30 mins of surplus exp for every hour cap reached on another job. So say you reach the 8 hour exp cap on Lancer then switch to Pugilist and reach the 8 hour exp cap on that you will then receive a 4 hour surplus bonus to Lancer. After that say you switch to Gladiator get to the 8 hour exp cap, you will then have a 4 hour surplus bonus that you can use for either Lancer or Pugilist. The exp cap timer does not tick unless you are in combat, if you are just running around exploring the time does not reduce at all. So the MMO Report is incorrect when it says you only get 15 hours a week of exp, you get 225 hours a week of exp that's 15 hours per class and there are 15 classes. Now SE has stated they have a plan for those who reach the exp cap on all 15 classes within a week but have yet to say what it is.

    So just because you reach the exp cap on 1 class doesn't mean you cant do anything cause you will have 14 other classes to play with.
  1. Demonthor's Avatar
    damn , i thought shadowmourne would atleast compete with level 85 blues... but a level 83 blue ? thats a waste of a legendary ..
  1. Eleveneleven's Avatar
    Fire Casey. This guy is way better.

    megiechan being forced to switch classes does not in any way make it ok. It is not a "counter". It's a terrible PoS system that will crash and burn the title. Imagine if Blizzard forced you to log into other classes after X hours per week. People choose a class and like a class and stick with a class, switching to their alts when they are done with their main, because they choose to...not the game.

    DFO sort of pulls this crap but that game is FREE. Enormous difference.
  1. kliffharry's Avatar
    No agi two-hander for druid/hunters :<
  1. Naoto's Avatar
    I think it's a bloody disgrace that a level 83 blue weapon replaces a level 80 legendary, the jump in stats really is shocking, what are 85 raid weapons going to be like? I always felt Cata would be shit then I changed my opinion over time but looking at these weapon stats I think it's going to be 10x as bas as when WOTLK came out, that was just insane damage and 100% burst for months, and Cata looks like being worse, fucking joke.
  1. adamosen's Avatar
    i guess its going to be:
    lv 83 blues from normal lv 85 instances
    lv 84 blues from heroic lv 85 instances
    lv 85 blues from early lv 85 raids
    and lv 85 epics from patched raids later on.
  1. Buzzinjoe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoto View Post
    I think it's a bloody disgrace that a level 83 blue weapon replaces a level 80 legendary, the jump in stats really is shocking, what are 85 raid weapons going to be like? I always felt Cata would be shit then I changed my opinion over time but looking at these weapon stats I think it's going to be 10x as bas as when WOTLK came out, that was just insane damage and 100% burst for months, and Cata looks like being worse, fucking joke.
    How does high weapon damage equate to a lot of burst? And replacing level 80 gear at max level 83 is a good thing. It means that we'll actually need to do heroics before even attempting raids. No leveling to cap in old gear and facerolling the raid content only to be bored for 6 months. WotLK was a massive mistake.
  1. john18761's Avatar
    fire casey this guy is a better presenter
  1. Zain's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzinjoe View Post
    How does high weapon damage equate to a lot of burst? And replacing level 80 gear at max level 83 is a good thing. It means that we'll actually need to do heroics before even attempting raids. No leveling to cap in old gear and facerolling the raid content only to be bored for 6 months. WotLK was a massive mistake.
    Agreed, for the first part anyway.

    Old gear is old, and should be replaced ASAP. It's had its time and place.

    Also, as you can see from the massive stamina upgrades in all item types, I really doubt that people would die in seconds a la WOTLK style.
    If a level 83 blue chest has 401 stamina, imagine how much would the first pvp tier chest have?
  1. Alianthos's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Elmot View Post
    damn , i thought shadowmourne would atleast compete with level 85 blues... but a level 83 blue ? thats a waste of a legendary ..
    Actually it doesnt even compete with a lvl 81 craftable blue sword.

    Get over it. A waste of legendary ? You used it for a while in ICC and topped metters with it, right ? Also Arena +2k2 facerolling, maybe ? How is that a waste ? What did you expect, this legendary (not so legendary if you ask me, seeing how easy it is to make one) to last till T11 ? jeez.
  1. Seriousdoom's Avatar
    mmo report doesnt work, it locks up, even on thier site.
  1. Cattleya's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Voltarus View Post
    Those are level 83 weapons, in a level 85 dungeon?
    *dreams*
    I hope they'll only upgrade the heroic loot to 85, and let no epics drop
    Unlikely, remember that the normal level 80 dungeons in WotLK only drop level 78 gear too, not level 80 gear. :P
  1. Fortuitous's Avatar
    Wow, even the MMO Report completely bit the retard-bar and believed it.

    http://thisismyjoystick.com/editoria...-really-works/

    Everyone is being trolled and not even knowing the difference. (About Final Fantasy 14)

    Edit - People keep bringing up 8 hours. It's not based on time. It's based on experience.
  1. Lifestyl's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by john18761 View Post
    fire casey this guy is a better presenter
    haha man i agree! i realy enyojed the MMO report !

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