Cataclysm Release, Dalaran Portals, Cataclysm Epic Stats

I can work with the name Vicious gladiator

Originally Posted by Sensa

the conversion ratio is terrible and the price of those items is very high....there will be no at 85 that will be able to buy pieces the minute they turn 85

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It's a small perks for those who have a lot fo emblems at the moment (like thousands). Given the conversion rate, they will be able to afford maybe one or two pieces of BLUE items once they hit 85. Not really imbalanced. It seems fair to me.

Originally Posted by Sensa

the conversion ratio is terrible and the price of those items is very high....there will be no at 85 that will be able to buy pieces the minute they turn 85

WEll they may not get them as soon as they hit 85 but it puts them in a big advantage. its unfair, especially since i spend my 163 frost emblems for 7 primordials and 200+ triumph over the last month for heirlooms, and other countless people that have done what i did.

Nice to know now that Zin'Rokh is a raid level weapon... depending on hit caps, it may be one of the BiS for that tier seeing as how you can turn any excess hit in mastery rating. I'm seriously gonna grind Archaeology to get that weapon. Can't wait to see what DK T11 looks like.

P.S. expertise on pvp gear? This is a first.

Originally Posted by bricktop123

Sick of hearing this crap from people that are playing the beta. The vast majority of WoW players that weren't lucky enough to get in the Beta would rather play a buggy and unfinished Cataclysm than more months and months of a raid tier that has already gone on twice as long as it should have.

I'm not in the beta (only on PTR, as everyone can be), but I read the forums and I definitely do not want to play Cata in the state it is currently in. I'd like my game to be as bugfree as possible, even if this means another 3 months wait. I have plenty of other things to do in the meantime (both ingame, in other games and irl). There is more in WoW then raiding... And more in life then WoW...

Oh you're right Tharaldriel... I had to check to US forums to see that Hero => Justice... (Thank God for our more-than-useless French CM T_T)

Originally Posted by Ektoplasme

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It's a small perks for those who have a lot fo emblems at the moment (like thousands). Given the conversion rate, they will be able to afford maybe one or two pieces of BLUE items once they hit 85. Not really imbalanced. It seems fair to me.

Hadn't thought of that. That makes sense !

Yay, I can still buy tons of heirlooms without feeling bad. :-P

To me it looks like the concept art for warrior t11 looks to me more like DK t11 art cause dks get the magma type armor and the one in concept is magma type.

the tank gear has the same stam as the dps and healing gear

Originally Posted by Nekosom

Actually, you're wrong. 346 blue items are equivalent to the 200 blue items from Heroics in WotLK. 333s are the items comparable to 187s, and are the unofficial prerequisite items for heroics. 365 is either a PvP only gear level or equivalent to Heroic-level raiding gear.

Though I agree with you. It's ridiculous for the guy to worry about the very top tier of PvP gear still being crappier than blue items. He's worrying about nothing.

Jesus, reading comprehension around here is dreadful, he's arguing the exact reverse of what you seem to think. What he said (and the evidence of the items in this post bears him out) is that the first tier of PvP items is much better than anything available in heroics or for Justice Points and, in some cases, is on a par with or better than, epics from the first raiding tier, for PVE.

So this means you will get people skipping heroics and doing a PvP grind to gear up for PvE raiding, as was the case in TBC.

Originally Posted by Pakisunny360

WEll they may not get them as soon as they hit 85 but it puts them in a big advantage. its unfair, especially since i spend my 163 frost emblems for 7 primordials and 200+ triumph over the last month for heirlooms, and other countless people that have done what i did.

A big advantage? One or maybe two blue pieces of gear at 85? Replace in an heroic a day later... Wow, what an advantage.

And it's especially unfair because you spend your emblems on heirlooms and primordials? What kind of reasoning is that? Is it unfair that someone who saves his money can buy a Ferrari, while you can't because you spend it on the cinema and expensive clothes every day? You have the same chance to save emblems and get that 'big advantage' as anyone else, but you choose to do something else with them. Your choice, not unfair.

I have only a few emblems because I choose to level another alt, to each his own.

Originally Posted by delcatty

the tank gear has the same stam as the dps and healing gear

by design, they want health pools to be a lot closer together, obviously gemming/enchants/trinkets will mean tanks will have slightly higher, but not 3 times that of dps/healers

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Originally Posted by lios

A big advantage? One or maybe two blue pieces of gear at 85? Replace in an heroic a day later... Wow, what an advantage.

You won't replace them in an heroic by the looks of things, the items available for Justice Points are there to complement heroic level blues (heroics won't drop epics) when building a starter raiding set.

Originally Posted by Pakisunny360

WEll they may not get them as soon as they hit 85 but it puts them in a big advantage. its unfair, especially since i spend my 163 frost emblems for 7 primordials and 200+ triumph over the last month for heirlooms, and other countless people that have done what i did.

yeah, well I paid 5200g x 4 for flying mounts for 4 toons and 1000g x 4 for dual spec and you don't see me crying that both will be substantially cheaper in Cata...

As I said, for 99% of the player base (less than 300-400 badges stocked up) the conversion rate / price of new items means you won't be buying any gear, including lowly BoA leveling gear, the minute you hit 85 so relax.

Well, i certainly hope every-just-dinged-85 will not be able to buy a full set of epics straight away.
Is there anything known already about the amount needed for the items purchasable with points?

Originally Posted by Pakisunny360

WEll they may not get them as soon as they hit 85 but it puts them in a big advantage. its unfair, especially since i spend my 163 frost emblems for 7 primordials and 200+ triumph over the last month for heirlooms, and other countless people that have done what i did.

Been spending all my current emblems peddling primordial saronite and gems, so not regretting it, gear won´t be that hard to get at 85. Get money now; worry about the heroic-gear later when you reach lvl 83-84

Originally Posted by Pakisunny360

AS far i know honor points have been reset before, yes they did get reset for Wrath launch but not badges.

nope they didn´t

Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

On September 23rd 2008, Eyonix announced that, "In order to make the transition from The Burning Crusade to Wrath of the Lich King flow as smoothly as possible, all accrued
honor points will be reset at the launch of the expansion."[2]
However, on November 19th, Bornakk retracted the claim of an honor point reset, "However, many players would still be surprised by an Honor and token reset as it isn’t
something we’ve done in the past. As such, we've decided to not reset Honor or tokens upon the release of Wrath of the Lich King."[3][4]

http://www.wowwiki.com/Honor_point#N..._the_Lich_King

Originally Posted by lios

A big advantage? One or maybe two blue pieces of gear at 85? Replace in an heroic a day later... Wow, what an advantage.

And it's especially unfair because you spend your emblems on heirlooms and primordials? What kind of reasoning is that? Is it unfair that someone who saves his money can buy a Ferrari, while you can't because you spend it on the cinema and expensive clothes every day? You have the same chance to save emblems and get that 'big advantage' as anyone else, but you choose to do something else with them. Your choice, not unfair.

I have only a few emblems because I choose to level another alt, to each his own.

Damn I cant even argue with u there, IMa just back away slowly and fade into thin air.

Official or no, given the vast amount of content they are bringing to us in this expansion, and the tuning and tweaking still happening, i'm not surprised if the game does get pushed back December.

And what about AH? I dont see a reason to stay in Shat/Dala without it. Why should I need those trainers more? They arent used as often and I could just go back to do that.

not suprised that its bein delayed for a month or so i still think it wont be released in december january i reckon

Band of Bees? They're just playing madlibs with the names now, aren't they.

I rather have them do it right, then push it out with loads of buggs. From being on the beta, the place is full of buggs, I think I spend more time writing out bugg tickets then anything else. Trust me you don't want to get the x-pac "undercooked".

Also this gives me a great chance to laugh at people/guilds who stopped raiding because the x-pac is just around the cornor.