MMO-Champion - Patch 4.0.1 release date, Heroic Deadmines, Blue Posts
Update - Someone just pointed out that the EU site has been updated and now shows October 13th, it either means that the patch is postponed, or that it will be deployed one week later in Europe.


Patch 4.0.1 release date
We're very close to the release of Patch 4.0.1, at this point the only question is "How close?"

As far as I can tell, you can probably expect the patch on October 5th or October 12th. Ghostcrawler already suggested that the patch would be deployed right before the end of the arena season and added that "they shouldn't have a lasting impact on ratings, titles, and the like".
Originally Posted by Ghostcrawler (Blue Tracker)
Since the current PvP season will end when these changes go live, they shouldn't have a lasting impact on ratings, titles and the like. We are prepared to just drop a temporary player damage nerf on all BGs and Arenas if necessary just so things don't feel too silly until everyone can level up to 85.
Additionally, the World of Warcraft Trial Website has been updated and now announces that the new streaming client will be available on October 5th, which is exactly what we've been testing on 4.0.1 PTRs.

As usual, nothing is official, but it's probably close enough.



Heroic Deadmines Video
TotalBiscuit released a nice video preview of the Heroic version of the Deadmines, one of the two revamped classic dungeon of Cataclysm.





Currency Conversion - Calculator Update
The Cataclysm Currency and Honor Calculator has been updated with the latest values of Justice Points.
Originally Posted by Bashiok (Blue Tracker)
We’ve revised the Justice Points conversion rate for Emblems of Triumph and Emblems of Frost. When the upcoming 4.0.1 patch goes live, these emblems will be converted into 11.58 Justice Points (up from the previously planned 2.75 Justice Points per emblem). Justice Points accrued above the soft cap of 4,000 will be converted to gold at a rate of 47.5 silver per point (down from 2 gold per point) when patch 4.0.3 goes live.

The original explanation thread (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...Id=26850245012) and the subsequent conversion math update (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...&pageNo=10#184) have been updated to reflect these changes.

[...] The previous conversion rate was intended to devalue Frost and Triumph a bit to discourage some amount of farming and hoarding of points before the conversion, but then we came to the conclusion that no matter what we do people would be farming well above the softcap, and we shouldn't try to make it more difficult for them to do so.

Emblems and Badges




Honor points!







Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

No Worgens and Goblins before Cataclysm
Worgen and goblins require the activation of a Cataclysm key and will not be available in patch 4.0.3 until Cataclysm launches. (Source)

Patch 4.0.1 and 4.0.3
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. These aren't filler patches we developed to tide players over. Patch 4.0.1 will implement nearly all systems changes necessary for Cataclysm (including class and UI changes). We've done this before every expansion to lay down the framework. Patch 4.0.3 brings about the Cataclysm, forever changing Azeroth.

This has always been the plan for Cataclysm, as we've never released an expansion quite like this one before. On the one hand, this expansion offers another increased level cap with all-new leveling and end-game content. On the other hand, this expansion is virtually rebuilding the content of the entire original game from the ground up.

Again, patches 4.0.1 and 4.0.3 are not offering filler content. These patches are to implement all of the new content and systems which do not require the purchase of Cataclysm. (Source)

Tanking
Why was threat decay scrapped?
We still like the idea and it might return someday.

We scrapped it because we didn't think it was necessary and we wanted to focus on things we thought were necessary. We ended up changing threat modifiers quite a bit and getting rid of a lot of the threat management talents. Furthermore, Vengeance is keeping tank dps up pretty well in beta tests -- often 75% or higher of dps. Finally, it was causing a lot of concern among tanks. The intent was to make threat generation more engaging, ultimately to make tanking more fun. But I think we ended up changing so many aspects of tanking (large health pools so avoidance matters more, less AE tanking, mana mattering more, Vengeance, etc.) that changing threat on top of all of that just seemed to some* tanks to be that final straw that made Cataclysm tanking feel totally unfamiliar to them.

* -- This kind of thing is always subjective. We didn't poll every tank; nor would we put a lot of weight on that anyway. Instead, we read a lot of forums and talked to a lot of tanks we knew to gauge whether this was something they were excited about or not. We know there are tanks that hated the idea and those that will be sad to see it go, as is the case with almost any design change. I offer all of that footnote just to try and stave off some of the inevitable threads that will launch from this one. "Healers don't like running out of mana -- remove that. Warriors don't like rage normalization -- remove that." We welcome your opinions on all of those things, but encourage you not to search for the magic switch that will get us to change out minds in areas where we disagree. (Source)

Paladin/Warrior mastery undertuned?

Increasing the value per point of mastery for paladins or warriors is not hard to do. Likewise, we might shift more of the warrior mastery between block and critical block because of the value of Shield Block.

I'm also not sure we're that worried about paladins (or anyone) blocking, dodging or parrying every hit. That isn't the game breaking scenario that it used to be. If in later tiers of gear you manage to do it, probably by giving up on other stats, I'm not sure it's a huge danger. Sixty percent of damage is still a lot and none of those stats help with magic damage. In a world where two back to back normal hits could kill you, it would be a lot more valuable. In Cataclysm, it might just translate to healer mana savings. We'll keep an eye on it of course.

We did change parry to scale from Strength. (Source)

Fan Art
The Official Fan Art Gallery has been updated with a piece entitled: Pally Tank!

This article was originally published in forum thread: Patch 4.0.1 release date, Heroic Deadmines, Blue Posts started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 138 Comments
  1. scaredandbaked's Avatar
    I hope it's the patch i am so sick of ICC... I feel like a drug addict and i keep going back to the needle (ICC).
  1. Vath's Avatar
    Its impossible to have the arena season finish a week after its released? Although the 12th looks more accurate, I'm sure we'd all love to try something new.
  1. Gurbz's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by mordras View Post
    Say what?
    Season 4 End Date: 10/14/2008 http://www.wowwiki.com/Season_4_Arena_rewards
    3.0.2 Release Date: 10/14/2008 http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_3.0.2
    Ok so he was a little off on that one. But his point is correct. He just had the wrong patch.

    Patch 3.3 Release Date: 12/08/2009 http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_3.3
    End of Season 7: 01/19/2010 http://www.wowwiki.com/Season_7_Arena_rewards[COLOR="red"]

    ---------- Post added 2010-09-30 at 12:46 PM ----------

    Edit: Yeah I know this is a little different since its an expansion patch and is a MAJOR reworking of the mechanics. But it shows that a patch is not required to end an arena season.
  1. agracul's Avatar
    so i dont quite get it. will 4.0.1 or 4.0.3 change the achievements system? SO do i have to farm all the achievments changed to feasts of strength before 4.0.1 or 4.0.3?
  1. gkai's Avatar
    Awesome, wow definitely needs the new patch; content right now is incredibly boring.
  1. kcquipor's Avatar
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGrHuYSmPIA epic
  1. zacish's Avatar
    so i dont quite get it. will 4.0.1 or 4.0.3 change the achievements system? SO do i have to farm all the achievments changed to feasts of strength before 4.0.1 or 4.0.3?
    Either way i would hurry up and start farming them right away. You don't have long!
  1. Taeloria's Avatar
    I've pointed this out before, but doesn't the current build on the PTR in most other patch scenarios have a (Test-Release) next to build number on lower left of the screen before it goes live? I'm pretty sure we've got at least one extra build to go then before patch goes live.
  1. Gnolaum's Avatar
    I've noticed that with large patches they usually do them a week apart for NA vs WORLD. But would not the streaming go live PRIOR (i.e. 1 week) to the patches actual release?
  1. Leowyld's Avatar
    Yes, usually there is a "release" after the build number. This *may* be an interesting exception, though, since the PTR build is, essentially, the same build as Beta (with content switched off). If the Beta client is not labeled for "Release", I don't know if the PTR client will be.

    And, no, the streaming would not need to launch early. The point of the streaming client is that you can install it and run the new files with little download time.

    I am not saying it will launch this coming Tuesday, but if it does not, it will definitely be next, in my opinion.
  1. koletha's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gnolaum View Post
    I've noticed that with large patches they usually do them a week apart for NA vs WORLD. But would not the streaming go live PRIOR (i.e. 1 week) to the patches actual release?
    As far as I can remember they've only ever done a week-delayed patch for the EU for 3.3.5, using US as the guinea pigs to make sure LFD didn't destroy the servers. Still, if they deplay 4.0.1 a week late for the EU I'll be a very sad panda
  1. Klokie's Avatar
    cant we please have Cata at first dec! I know you read this Ghostcrawler/Blizzard!
  1. Lombra's Avatar
    US site now says "Available soon". Dunno if anyone mentioned this. EU still says 13th.
  1. Tygerlily177's Avatar
    I'm guessing 4.0 will be (has to be!) at the same time as the end of the arena season (i.e. October 12th). It really makes no sense otherwise and would be a terrible mistake.
  1. Separatelol's Avatar
    I'm not sure but I think the stream client is for trials only they get to test it and its not saying 4.0.1 will release with it but instead a trial will get to test the feature earlier than the patch but I'm probably wrong.
  1. martinboy's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Lombra View Post
    US site now says "Available soon". Dunno if anyone mentioned this. EU still says 13th.
    EU now says "Available soon" too. Can they make up their minds?
  1. Brontotaurus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by martinboy View Post
    EU now says "Available soon" too. Can they make up their minds?
    Actually both the US and the EU site either say "soon" or "October 13th" depending what language you use. Just click through the diifferent options.

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