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Cataclysm -- Justice Point Drop Quantities
Don't forget the item previews if you're not sure about the price of the new items!



Originally Posted by Ulvareth (Blue Tracker)
Although we’ve revealed some details of the conversion process (https://forums.wow-europe.com/thread...74620794&sid=1), many of you have asked how many Justice and Valor Points bosses and daily dungeons will actually award. This list is incomplete, and the values may still change, but it covers the majority of the content we’ve been asked about.


  • Lich King Heroic dungeon boss -- 16 Justice Points
  • Lich King daily normal dungeon -- 12 Justice Points
  • Lich King daily Heroic dungeon -- 23 Justice Points
  • Lich King raid boss -- 23 Justice Points


  • Cataclysm Heroic dungeon boss -- 75 Justice Points
  • Cataclysm daily normal dungeon -- 75 Justice Points
  • Cataclysm daily Heroic dungeon -- 75 Valor Points
  • Cataclysm 10-player raid boss -- 75 Valor Points
  • Cataclysm 25-player raid boss -- 105 Valor Points

It’s important to note that once you outgrow content, by leveling past it by a predetermined amount, you’ll no longer gain points. The ‘outgrown’ level for end-game Wrath of the Lich King content is likely to be level 81. Once you level beyond Lich King content you’ll still be able to enter the dungeons, kill bosses, and see their drops, but they will not award you with points. This same principle applies to all content that provides Justice Points, including content from The Burning Crusade.
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  1. HavokHeart's Avatar
    what are the prices for the current frost items??
  1. guice's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    Maybe you should read the details.. says Valor Points AND tokens.
    yeah. That has to do with the English language my friend. Look at the picture. Look at what they are talking about. Most items cost points. A couple items cost a token. So, you can get all your gear with a combination of Valor and Tokens. What item you want depends on what currency is required.
  1. Jokerjesus's Avatar
    All tier pieces will be fully buy able with Valor Points. However if you want the heroic versions of tier gear you will need tokens just like the 264 ICC Tier upgrades they will drop from bosses.
  1. Gilian's Avatar
    Cataclysm daily Heroic dungeon -- 75 Valor Points


    And failed again.
  1. davep's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by HavokHeart View Post
    what are the prices for the current frost items??
    whatever the current price is with frost badges just multiply it by 12 and that's what the price will be around with JP. basically 4.0.1 you'll be able to by frost gear with triumph badges
  1. Theprophecy2186's Avatar
    For the love of god I hope they change their minds about rewarding Valor points with the Daily Random.

    I understand they wanted to make the feature popular in Lich king, but we've all seen it, we like it to some extent, we're still going to use it when we need to, stop giving the best rewards for a feature which so easily becomes menial and aggravating. This feature is one of the main reasons epic items are so easily acquired now. Change it, please.
  1. guice's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerjesus View Post
    All tier pieces will be fully buy able with Valor Points. However if you want the heroic versions of tier gear you will need tokens just like the 264 ICC Tier upgrades they will drop from bosses.
    Firelord is the tier 11 for mages:
    http://media.mmo-champion.com/images...pointprice.jpg

    Picture says differently. According to that, helm and shoulders require a token. Interestingly, if you notice, they are going BACK to slot specific tokens again, but just those two shots; shoulders and helm.
  1. davep's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilian View Post
    Cataclysm daily Heroic dungeon -- 75 Valor Points


    And failed again.
    How is that fail? It's what is currently done now. You get 2 Frost Badges for doing a LK daily Heroic and you get 75 VALOR Points for doing a Cata daily Heroic. It's only 75 points a day which is nothing just as 2 Frost badges a day is nothing.
  1. malletin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Theprophecy2186 View Post
    For the love of god I hope they change their minds about rewarding Valor points with the Daily Random.

    I understand they wanted to make the feature popular in Lich king, but we've all seen it, we like it to some extent, we're still going to use it when we need to, stop giving the best rewards for a feature which so easily becomes menial and aggravating. This feature is one of the main reasons epic items are so easily acquired now. Change it, please.

    what about dont change it please? it seem to work for me.. in all fairness i cant see the big deal about getting 75 valor points each day for doing something which some people lack the brain capacity to do right now.
  1. martinkaca's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Theprophecy2186 View Post
    For the love of god I hope they change their minds about rewarding Valor points with the Daily Random.

    I understand they wanted to make the feature popular in Lich king, but we've all seen it, we like it to some extent, we're still going to use it when we need to, stop giving the best rewards for a feature which so easily becomes menial and aggravating. This feature is one of the main reasons epic items are so easily acquired now. Change it, please.
    I don't see why people complain about the daily random awarding some valor. If you look at the cost of things it will take them weeks to get a single item while people that raid will have everything they want months before. It also lets raiders get that little extra boost to get gear even faster.
  1. ItachiZaku's Avatar
    Nice. I'm guessing most people will have 4K rolling into the xpac.
  1. DrgnDancer's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by davep View Post
    How is that fail? It's what is currently done now. You get 2 Frost Badges for doing a LK daily Heroic and you get 75 VALOR Points for doing a Cata daily Heroic. It's only 75 points a day which is nothing just as 2 Frost badges a day is nothing.

    But that means that, given months to farm, scrubs might get entry level raid gear! It's awful! It's terrible! Somebody who doesn't play as well or as often as I do might get the same same gear as me, months after I got it! (This seems to be the usual argument)
  1. Jokerjesus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by guice View Post
    Firelord is the tier 11 for mages:
    http://media.mmo-champion.com/images...pointprice.jpg

    Picture says differently. According to that, helm and shoulders require a token. Interestingly, if you notice, they are going BACK to slot specific tokens again, but just those two shots; shoulders and helm.
    That is very much ok too, I didn't see the token requirements. but I mean its the best of both. The only reason they did that is becasue helm and shoulders are the coolest part of the set haha.
  1. guice's Avatar
    ^ Agree with davep, malletin, and martinkaca. The reason epics are so "common" is cause NORMAL dungeons are dropping epics. As well as heroics dropping epics from every boss. Plus, you have tons of pugs running old dungeons up the wazo that drops easy epics. Epics are very common because they are junk now (Naxx is all epics ... it's worse than "green" these days).
  1. Chareoss's Avatar
    Daily heroic bullshit again and rewarding raid points from daily heroic and more points for 25man fucking fails.
  1. guice's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerjesus View Post
    That is very much ok too, I didn't see the token requirements. but I mean its the best of both. The only reason they did that is becasue helm and shoulders are the coolest part of the set haha.
    yeah. I'm cool with that, too. I just thought it was interesting the direction they are taking it. Nothing wrong with it. Just interesting.
  1. VanishO2's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by guice View Post
    You buy tier items with points, with the exception of a couple items. Sorry to disappoint. Check the "Valor Point Item Rewards" link again.

    Shocking the number of people that don't pay attention to these details ...
    "Tier 11 Armor Sets Stats
    Tier 11 Armor sets are bought with tokens and valor points."
  1. guice's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by VanishO2 View Post
    "Tier 11 Armor Sets Stats
    Tier 11 Armor sets are bought with tokens and valor points."
    http://media.mmo-champion.com/images...pointprice.jpg
    (fyi, Firelord is mage Tier 11)
  1. Tizdale's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Theprophecy2186 View Post
    For the love of god I hope they change their minds about rewarding Valor points with the Daily Random.

    I understand they wanted to make the feature popular in Lich king, but we've all seen it, we like it to some extent, we're still going to use it when we need to, stop giving the best rewards for a feature which so easily becomes menial and aggravating. This feature is one of the main reasons epic items are so easily acquired now. Change it, please.
    What you're missing to see here though, is that Tier 11 will be set back to Justice points when the new Tier comes out. So its not so much the issue of receiving Valor points with which you can buy the Tier 11, it will just become the Justice set the Tier after that anyway. Just like it started with WotLK.

    -> Downraking the Old Tier <- Is what makes Epics so easily attainable.. the Valors per Daily mean absolutely nothing.

    We're talking 75 a day.. items cost +- 1650 valor: that means 1650/75= 22 dailies for 1 tier 11 Item. I don't see the issue really. Lets do some math: 5 items = 5x 22 = 110 days, which equals to approximately 16 weeks. Or even 4 months.. to get 5 Tier 11 items. Again.. I ask, what is the problem? I'm talking 4 months, of doing a daily -each single day- just for 5 items. I fail to see where that is not dedication. Holy christ I'm glad that I can raid and just get one or two items a week and have the set within half a month. Honestly, if someone doesn't have the means to raid, but does have the dedication to spend those 110 days they have my blessing.

    You're really making a fuss about nothing, the issue with easy epics arrives only the second that the new Tier arrives.
  1. Evory's Avatar
    In case you didn't notice nothing changes in regard to the daily heroic, you get 75 Valor Points killing a raid boss (Well 105 on 25), you get 75 Valor Points completing the first heroic per day, likewise you get right now 2 Frost Emblems killing a raid boss, and you get 2 Frost Emblems completing the first heroic per day.

    However seems it will be impossible to go back and get old tier since you'll not gain JP above 80 which seems kinda strange to me, why couldn't they just have introduced a 3rd type of points for old content, that way the new points values wouldn't have to be so high as well, oh well.

    Also yes you'll be able to get 2 pieces of blue level 85 gear with JP from lvl 80 content but really big deal, will just help you gear up for heroics a bit faster.

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