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Cataclysm -- Justice Point Drop Quantities
Don't forget the item previews if you're not sure about the price of the new items!



Originally Posted by Ulvareth (Blue Tracker)
Although we’ve revealed some details of the conversion process (https://forums.wow-europe.com/thread...74620794&sid=1), many of you have asked how many Justice and Valor Points bosses and daily dungeons will actually award. This list is incomplete, and the values may still change, but it covers the majority of the content we’ve been asked about.


  • Lich King Heroic dungeon boss -- 16 Justice Points
  • Lich King daily normal dungeon -- 12 Justice Points
  • Lich King daily Heroic dungeon -- 23 Justice Points
  • Lich King raid boss -- 23 Justice Points


  • Cataclysm Heroic dungeon boss -- 75 Justice Points
  • Cataclysm daily normal dungeon -- 75 Justice Points
  • Cataclysm daily Heroic dungeon -- 75 Valor Points
  • Cataclysm 10-player raid boss -- 75 Valor Points
  • Cataclysm 25-player raid boss -- 105 Valor Points

It’s important to note that once you outgrow content, by leveling past it by a predetermined amount, you’ll no longer gain points. The ‘outgrown’ level for end-game Wrath of the Lich King content is likely to be level 81. Once you level beyond Lich King content you’ll still be able to enter the dungeons, kill bosses, and see their drops, but they will not award you with points. This same principle applies to all content that provides Justice Points, including content from The Burning Crusade.
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  1. Rahzi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by yellowbiz View Post
    I'm not too sure about Heroics awarding the same as Raids.. we'll have to see how it is in action first
    Cataclysm raids don't award the same as Heroics, Justice Points are different from Valor points.

    And if you meant Lich King heroics giving the same points as Lich King raids....well, it's simply to prepare ungeared people for new content like they do with every new tier.
  1. Sosa's Avatar
    I'd like to ask...are your Justice points goning to be RESET once you outgrow a content, or they gonna stay...
  1. TehSklatt's Avatar
    Look I'm not trying to troll anyone, but I'm a raider, that's what i do, its the only thing fun in this game to me. I'm trying to understand it from the point of view, of someone who doesn't raid but still wants raiding gear.
    you raid to get gear, no matter what anyone says that's the underlying reason for being there, its your incentive, so why should raid gear be available to people who don't raid. i also understand that Blizz doesn't care about raiders, only money so they will continue to give away free gear.
    I like to stand out, when you see me on my server, you know i raid, you can tell i know what I'm doing by the gear I'm wearing. you heroics runners say you deserve the gear we are wearing but don't we deserve something to ourselves?

    looking for honest answers here no jk
    -tehsklatt
  1. Hoffafiles's Avatar
    I'm content in my lower tier gear, since I don't raid.
    Nothing against it, just don't have the time.
  1. cmilla's Avatar
    You can't buy level 85 gear with JP if you are level 80. So even if you were gaining JP faster than everyone else, you'd have no way of accumulating/spending it. Also, guice, 10/25man lockout does not affect 5man H rewards....... this thread discusses the JP earned from raids as well. Maybe you should read the the OP before making fun of people.
  1. det's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by TehSklatt View Post
    Look I'm not trying to troll anyone, but I'm a raider, that's what i do, its the only thing fun in this game to me. I'm trying to understand it from the point of view, of someone who doesn't raid but still wants raiding gear.
    you raid to get gear, no matter what anyone says that's the underlying reason for being there, its your incentive, so why should raid gear be available to people who don't raid. i also understand that Blizz doesn't care about raiders, only money so they will continue to give away free gear.
    I like to stand out, when you see me on my server, you know i raid, you can tell i know what I'm doing by the gear I'm wearing. you heroics runners say you deserve the gear we are wearing but don't we deserve something to ourselves?

    looking for honest answers here no jk
    -tehsklatt
    Right.. you asked for a honest answer..so here it is: (It isn't hard to come up with it yourself and also ppl like me have been trying to hammer it out on the forums..but here goes)

    -people quit the game due to RL reasons
    -people do not all buy the game on release date
    -ppl get sick, break arms, suffer diseases
    -people burn out, quit, die..you name it
    -people join late..in short, not everybody joins at day 1 and plays day in day out. Some due to issues that are beyond their control.

    So you may assume, that the people who try to GET raiding gear WANT to raid. The great thing is (incidentally since Early 2008 when Isle of QD was released in TBC): Now when somebody returns to the game who has lost contact due to any of the above reasone, he can now gear up on his own without imposing on a guild and THEN JOIN THE RAIDS..instead of forcing his guild to go back to old raidcontent and gear him up. Or forcing him to find 24 equally delayed players who may or may not exist on his server.

    It really is so easy...don't assume that ppl who do not raid want or need raidgear...just assume they WANT to raid..and that is why they gear up for it. The items gathered from running endless heroics MOSTLY granted you quick full gear of the tier below the current raid tier. Ilv 232 and 245 from Triumph emblems without limit, but raiders had ilv 251-264 while doing current tiers.

    To gear yourself fully in Frost emblems, you needed 600 emblems. WITHOUT raiding, your 7 weekly heroics supplied you with 14. Your Voa and weekly raid (which actually were raids) supplied you with another 7.

    That would have been anything between 30 and 40 weeks to gear outside raids. That is a FACT. So why the hell do ppl moan if somebody even decides he will spend 40 weeks outside raids to get gear that we others, inside our raids get faster AND of higher quality WHILE HAVING EVEN MOAR FUN?.

    Do you ask why some guy drives a Porsche that goes 220 in the city? Do you really need 3 TVs in your home? Do you only do things because they absolutely make sense? Do you need 73 different flavoured chewing gums in your life? Why the hell do you need to apply rules that are fit for prisons or totaitarian regimes to a bloody video game and to people you don't know or don't even play with?

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnywasy..that said...I am standing right now at the Justice and Valor quartermaster and you can save all your buckets of tears because the system continues as it did in WotLK. between 700 and 1600 valor points for relics, cloaks, gauntlets and others.Those points come indeed ALSO from doing heroic dungeons as the newspage of this topic tells us.

    Tier gear CURRENTLY only comes from tokens dropping in raids. That is fair enough. But it will very likely become available for Justice or Valor points when the next tier of raidgear is released.

    What did you expect when Blizzard said "The Wrath system of raiding was a success"?
  1. Evilmonkey's Avatar
    Tier gear CURRENTLY only comes from tokens dropping in raids. That is fair enough. But it will very likely become available for Justice or Valor points when the next tier of raidgear is released.
    Decided to skim your post to see if it was worth reading fully and came across this that showed me it isnt. What would be great is if before you post you knew what you were talking about, especially when it comes to cata, JP and VP.

    I am standing right now at the Justice and Valor quartermaste
    T11 is NOT only from tokens. It is tokens AND 3/5 can be bought with valor points. i know it sounds cool when you say your actually doing something, but i can tell your not standing there when you posted this. how? cause I'm actually there and here is why. Yes i know, i looked at more then the first page of a vendors loot. shame on me.





    not the greatest image but its just to illustrate the point. As you can see, for the right price you can buy Chest, Legs and Gloves T11 for VP. When T12 is released any items bought with VP become purchasable with JP. Now the only thing we don't know yet is if they will put the Helm/Shoulders in for JP as well.
  1. Strayer's Avatar
    Some stated that there wont be 3 lvl of tiers only 2 so if 1 drops from normal and other from hc we're good these points will be nice to buy accesories till we arent well geared and some Boe items might help alts also . Not entirely sure about the only 2 tier lvls as the pictures show 3 but 3rd could be a non set item wich looks like the tier as it was in wotlk different color tho.
  1. Droda's Avatar
    what picture shows 3 different lvls of T11? the picture from the previous poster? no, it shows 1 lvl of T11 per item on that page, but it shows items for 3 different talent speccs.
  1. Zasu's Avatar
    Details, details, what's a 5 between friends? :P
  1. det's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Evilmonkey View Post
    Decided to skim your post to see if it was worth reading fully and came across this that showed me it isnt. What would be great is if before you post you knew what you were talking about, especially when it comes to cata, JP and VP.


    T11 is NOT only from tokens. It is tokens AND 3/5 can be bought with valor points. i know it sounds cool when you say your actually doing something, but i can tell your not standing there when you posted this. how? cause I'm actually there and here is why. Yes i know, i looked at more then the first page of a vendors loot. shame on me.


    not the greatest image but its just to illustrate the point. As you can see, for the right price you can buy Chest, Legs and Gloves T11 for VP. When T12 is released any items bought with VP become purchasable with JP. Now the only thing we don't know yet is if they will put the Helm/Shoulders in for JP as well.
    Well, give me a break. As you said you skimmed my post and found a couple of things that were wrong. Sue me. The point I was trying to make is that the system introduced in TBC and continued through WotLk will (despite all the QQ that is shed) continue in Cataclysm (though again it is refined and adjusted a bit). Raidgear can also be obtained by doing 5 mans and getting points there - I was in fact checking the JP and VP Quartermasters for that. What item for what cost is secondary to me atm, so beg your pardon that I overlooked a couple of pieces.

    So people can nerdrage all they want about "raidgear should only come from raids" or "the death of tiered and progressive raiding" - if they feel so strongly about it and hoped Catclysm would revert to the very old system of Classic and the first half of TBC...it isn't happening.
  1. Zeraveth's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zamiel View Post
    Wow only 25 more points for 25 man I was expecting alot more I feel sorry for them.
    25points pr boss give a huge bonus for a good progressing guild

    We got magmaw, defense, atramedes, chimaeron and maloriak on 25man farm now in blackwing and conclave of wind, that's 6x25 pr week, next will probably be halfus 25man, more importantly we are now capable of easily achieveing VP cap each week. Also there are more drops on 25man, and bigger chance someone needs it.

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