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they should really just split the forums into languages instead of location. any1 who can speak english can post on the english forum, any1 who can speak german can post on the german forum etc etc. so your not being forced into the language of your location, but can go to any language forum you want if you can speak said language

Originally Posted by styopa

I *really don't understand their logic on the limit to rezz's in raids.

If a raidleader wants to sacrifice DPS, offtanks, or whatever to deploy more healers in the group, isn't that their choice?

I dunno, I honestly haven't raided much since BC, but this sort of 'ability lockout' - particularly of a marquee ability - seems arbitrary, almost punitive. How would prot warrior tanks like it if shield wall were not only returned to a 30-minute c/d, but they were told they could only use it once per boss?

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To me it seems that Blizz is almost admitting "sorry guys, this stuff is too complicated for us to keep balancing, so we're just going to make everyone not just equivalent but equal". Bah, red vs blue is BORING.

Homogenization makes life easier for developers, but it makes it pretty BORING for players.

I'd even say the armor-credit thing is another example...it was *interesting* for fury warriors (for example) to have to choose between plate pieces and better-dps leather pieces. There's a strategic gameplay choice. We need more of those, not less.

No and no. All Your arguments are wrong. The change has nothing to do with raid composition in terms of tanks,dps and healing, but in terms of classes stacks. And knowing when to save your cooldowns for is something that fits perfect in the game mechanics. The armor type example is completly bad, that is been changed for loot distribution purposes, nothing to do with homogenization. Learn to play, then be good at, then try and post again.

Originally Posted by Agency

No and no. All Your arguments are wrong. The change has nothing to do with raid composition in terms of tanks,dps and healing, but in terms of classes stacks. And knowing when to save your cooldowns for is something that fits perfect in the game mechanics. The armor type example is completly bad, that is been changed for loot distribution purposes, nothing to do with homogenization. Learn to play, then be good at, then try and post again.

but... wasn't it the people that knew how to play, that figured out that some leather was superior to plate? how is that a "l2p issue" ?

Originally Posted by Tribalwar

And if your talking about class uniqueness, from what I see Warlocks and Druids are the only ones "still" with BRez. So thinking that this is to make things more "bring the player", your kinda wrong on this. It just means you have to make sure you do better then you are, instead relying on that Brez. God knows how many times in raids I hear the leader give out BRez assignments BEFORE the raid begins because we either aren't ready for the fight or we just don't know what we are doing...!

Proves my point. If you're needing bres's because people aren't doing what they're supposed to be doing, you need to bring players who are. When I raid we don't have bres or SS available, and we win.

Originally Posted by Agency

No and no. All Your arguments are wrong. The change has nothing to do with raid composition in terms of tanks,dps and healing, but in terms of classes stacks. And knowing when to save your cooldowns for is something that fits perfect in the game mechanics. The armor type example is completly bad, that is been changed for loot distribution purposes, nothing to do with homogenization. Learn to play, then be good at, then try and post again.

Agreed, especially the armor thing. As a guild officer, I got tired of being involved in battles between plate users and leather users over loot. (The worst was a pally healer who had LOST the roll and wondered why he couldn't have the gear, thinking we were denying him it because it was leather.) And there is no homogenization involved in knowing you have a limited number of chances to recover from a mistake via battle rez, it actually encourages skill and thought. My raid leader has a bad habit of firing off battle rezzes for the first DPS who dies, instead of saving it for a time of greater need, because it's so readily available. This isn't about homogenization at all.

Originally Posted by Oberoth

Why does it feel like they are homogenizing all of the classes to the point of nothing. I mean the point of playing a druid healer was the Hots and Bres. The point of a Shammy was Chain heal and Ankh and totems. Pallys were hard hitting single target heals and plate. Priests were fast single heals and bubbles.

They are getting to the point that they might as well just say screw it you pick you race and then choose Tank, melee, ranged DPS, or heals...

Granted all of the classes mechanics are slightly different, but even with the differing mechanics it feels like they are pulling the uniqueness out of the classes.

MEH maybe it is just me

druids and locks are still the only ones with brez. i've never seen a raid need more than 1 brez per encounter in a 10 man. stop with the sky is falling b.s.

Originally Posted by Dannz

but... wasn't it the people that knew how to play, that figured out that some leather was superior to plate? how is that a "l2p issue" ?

Yey you are correct, this is not a l2p issue but a crybaby 'mimimi the other raid has other players with other possibillities' issue

God who cares about the damn epic changes (although it is very nice) FIX THE DAMN PROFESSIONS!

Originally Posted by Dannz

but... wasn't it the people that knew how to play, that figured out that some leather was superior to plate? how is that a "l2p issue" ?

but... wasn't it the people that knew how to do math, that figured out that some leather was superior to plate?

/fixed

Hardcore Raiders give items that most benefit raids no issue there, everyone else crying about "that cloth with spirit my pally can use" is a l2p issue. There is no skill in been a lootwh*re. In fact everyone using the best in slot leather that fitted shamans, warriors, druids, rogues and hunter was a homogenization issue. Still bad argument there.

This will put a dampening on the 25-man parade for sure. While I imagine not all bring these classes with brez specifically in mind, I know of a lot of which who do abuse this because their members like to stand in the fire, so they stacked locks and druids.

Let's just put it this way- raids with a higher Druid/Warlock population had an advantage. Now they do not.

I would prefer it be:

10m - single brez, single soulstone
25m - two brez, two soulstone

Because if you think about it, the soulstone is better when you are learning an encounter and the Druid(s) may already be dead.

Just my opinion.

Also, as per the Shaman Ankh: I am very surprised this wasn't included. Being a Resto Shaman I can certianly see how the other healers would see our Ankh as an unfair advantage. I'd rather have them add restrictions to ankh per raid fight than nerf the spell to the point is useless. However, compared to brez and soulstone it does have a fairly long cooldown, and would not be availiable every attempt (even every other attempt would be iffy).

As per homogenization: I am okay with most homogenization of common tools, but I am not a fan of when an active spell/ability is equal to a passive one. I have pretty much stopped dropping any totems except for Healing Stream in raids. There is no point to the others, the other classes use them for virtually free (battle shout, horn of winter, arcane intellect's new %sp increas, etc.

Maybe Deathwing burned up the ban list

error page is beastly.
Also if they do make SS workable when the target is dead I'll be one happy warlock!

Originally Posted by Oberoth

Why does it feel like they are homogenizing all of the classes to the point of nothing. I mean the point of playing a druid healer was the Hots and Bres. The point of a Shammy was Chain heal and Ankh and totems. Pallys were hard hitting single target heals and plate. Priests were fast single heals and bubbles.

They are getting to the point that they might as well just say screw it you pick you race and then choose Tank, melee, ranged DPS, or heals...

Granted all of the classes mechanics are slightly different, but even with the differing mechanics it feels like they are pulling the uniqueness out of the classes.

MEH maybe it is just me

Its been happening for a while, its what happens when you have to cater.

Dig the new community site.

Wow, the new WoW community site looks just great. Also, VERY much looking forward to you guys rolling out the new MMO-C layout! I was wondering where news on that had gone... weeks almost out! Go go!

Originally Posted by shadowflay

can anyone confirm the ban on forums is gone :>?

Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

Yes, as many of you have already noticed, we've started these forums with a clean slate in regards to forum suspensions and bans

However, we will take posting histories into account if we need to consider a future suspension.

Source: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/825052551#15

Originally Posted by Thessalor

I just jizzed in my pants at the sight of the new community page.

That's really getting old.

Loving the new site!

Originally Posted by Shadowdream

Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

Yes, as many of you have already noticed, we've started these forums with a clean slate in regards to forum suspensions and bans

However, we will take posting histories into account if we need to consider a future suspension.

Source: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/825052551#15

OH nice! I was curious about this. I had a past ban, for plain trolling. So I am very grateful for this.