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Originally Posted by Epiclurker

They closing down a gold farm while at the same time opening up others. True you are losing gems but you are gaining some profit in archeology and spending jp on crafting mats. The word nerf gets used far too much these days to describe something we don't like. That took all the meaning out of the word sadly.

Lets be honest. Just by being able to buy gems, orbs, and rep items, dungeon emblems were far more valuable in Wrath than they are in Cata. An uncut mixed color gem was worth 80-100g, for ten valor points, or ten bosses. That amounts to about 700 JP...which gets you three heavenly dust under the proposed new system...worth about thirty gold. This significantly cuts down on the incentive to run heroics. A full stack of JP gets me all of 255g...and that's about to be reduced when the price change on gems goes into effect. For comparison lets say that under wrath prices, it took about 10jp to earn 1g. Under cata, it's currently about 16jp to earn one gold, and likely to go up to 20jp or more just for one gold.

This means I have more incentive to go play with myself farming in uldum than to go onto the LFD system or run dungeons with guildies. In wrath a solid day's heroic farming at least gave me orbs to craft gear with and gems to sell or socket upgrades with. Currently in cata I have very little incentive to spend 30-90 minutes tanking dungeons for guildies. I don't even need valor gear...I've purchased every meaningful piece from the valor vendor and all that remains for me is to buy boots and sell them...and they're already underpriced due to players who put quick cash over getting themselves upgrades. The orb is nice...but 90% of my orbs go to my guildies and I still can't keep the tailors from rolling on them.

(Please note that I am not currently advocating selling chaos orbs for JP. Crafting orbs should only be purchaseable by the level of emblem they make gear for...just like in wrath. Chaos orbs should not be sold for JP until 359 gear is sold for JP.)

Originally Posted by wolfieone

I'm pleased they won't bring back the Dal/Shatt ports, but I do wish they'd add the new-zone ports to another major city- Darn and Undercity for instance - to help spread the playerbase out a bit more. it helps prevent cities like SW and Org from being lag fests (which they are occasionally for me.)

boat and zep are easy to take to both those zone, you can always farm item that teleport the player those arent too hard to get or even get a mage friend to port you.

They closing down a gold farm while at the same time opening up others.

Which ones?

True you are losing gems

It's not about the gems themselves...

but you are gaining some profit in archeology

I don't care about Arch. Never again will until they redesign it and do away with crappy RNG layer BS. The way Arch works it will NEVER be a reliable income unless every common is worth the same. So you really can't compare this to the controlled dump of JP.

and spending jp on crafting mats.

Yeah... that's the entire point of my post. The conversion ratio (in terms of gold) is beyond ridiculous. But instead of buffing it, they nerf the alternate way, people would use instead.

The word nerf gets used far too much these days to describe something we don't like. That took all the meaning out of the word sadly.

Yeah right. To put it as simple as possible for you:

My gold income from JP-dumps was reduced from 160G per 2500 JP to 75G per 2500 JP. (using 2500JP / stack of cloth as an example, the other conversions are worth even LESS on my servers economy)

So HOW on Earth is that NOT a nerf by any definition of the word?!

In case you guys haven't noticed...pretty much every major world first is done in a fishy way (same with level cap world first).

Awesome kill guys, you (and Paragon) are definitely the top guilds in this tier, very well done. I hope in the next tier, there will be far less game-breaking bugs so half the kills won't be mired with controversy and all the top guilds can have a clean race. Best of Luck!

Method is completely right, it may not have been Paragon's fault but it was lame to take credit for the kill when they knew better. Even worse that blizzard gave them credit.

The way I see it, Method did the fight legitimately. Paragon had a half-assed version of it. It's the simple truth, QQ or not - method have a right to be pissed.

Awww... Part of the fun of Tol Barad was jumping people who would sit out of the fight and just gather herbs.

It looks like Blizzard is on to me. I liked to enter Tol Barad at around 16-17 minutes before battle and then get gated in to Tol Barad at the 15 minute mark and then ride around and collect all that wonderful ore. There were usually only 1 or 2 others that did the same, so the competition was minimal.

I heard that herbs are really plentiful as well.

Shame that I have to go back to circling Uldum for ore like all the other sad miners. I haven't found a good enough route to make Twilight worthwhile.

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I do wish that there was a major hub city on each continent. Let's say Org/UC for Horde and SW/Darnassus for Alliance (I know IF is better than Darnassus, but IF and SW aren't that far apart).

What they have done is turn Orgrimmar and Stormwind in to the new Dalaran. Some people are experiencing major lag issues in those cities. I do appreciate that they've added secondary hearth spots in each city, though, as it helps a little bit when logging in.

Defending forces will receive a 200% capture speed bonus when they control all 3 keeps.

... What?

What's the point of that when you already got all 3 keeps... ?

Or am I missing something... ?

Weren't top guilds complaining about ICC gating?

EU ----------------------------> US
Thats all

Originally Posted by milowen

I couldn't stop laughing when I saw the boomkins screenshot from Method ^^
Paragon ? Method ? Who cares is the best ?
They have both shown an awesome dedication since the release of Cataclysm.
Gratz to all of them !

Exactly. Every time someone does something that gets on the front page, all I see is whining and QQing and fanboy defending. Why can't you all just say congrats? I'm sure if it was your guild, you would appreciate people saying congrats and not "omg waah you're worse than this person, you don't deserve the front page!!"

Congrats to all the hard working people and guilds who got world whatevers as well as the ones who just missed them.

Originally Posted by BeerWolf

... What?

What's the point of that when you already got all 3 keeps... ?

Or am I missing something... ?

Means there will have to be 2x more attackers than defenders at base to even start capping flag.

that kil'jeaden ... jep i got a new desktop High rez

It's sort of funny that some people are complaining about Paragon "Fanboys". How does defending the WF kill of Nef make them a "Fanboy"? Last time I checked, Blizzard stripped World Firsts from guilds that were doing something wrong, (See Ensidia's WF LK). As MikeB aka Fony would say it, "It's not like there's a bouncer standing outside Blackwind Descent counting how many Druids are being brought into the raid".

Honestly, who cares if Paragon stacked Feral Druids to get a World First? If it was as big of a deal as everyone is making it seem, then Blizzard would have removed the WF from Paragon and hotfixed it right away. However, Blizzard gave the WF to Paragon, and congratulations to them for that.

And I would congratulate Method for their Nef kill, but their comments are the worst display of sportsmanship I've ever seen. Just because Method couldn't use the same means to get the kill as Paragon doesn't mean they have the right to call Blizzard out for showing favoritism.

i wouldn't mind a portal system where almost every city has 2 portals, 1 old too major cities 1 too new world. cause certain cities are simply dead atm. like
Shatrah will have a portal too Hyjal and ironforge
Dalaran will have portals too Uldum and Stormwind
Exodor will have portals too Twilight highlands and Shatrah
Darnasus will have portals too Vashjir and Dalaran
Ironforge will have portals too Deepholm and Darnasus
Stormwind can keep the current new world hub plus a portal too Exodar.

if you look at the scedule you see a perfect flowchart from 80 too 85 in shatrah giving access too hyjal and ironforge than ironforge has access too deepholm and after that you can either use SW or exodar (which is close too darnasus) for twilight highlands access.

Personally I would have welcomed a 'reasonable' gate-system or similar to allow for more real life time the past ~2months, especially with xmas/new years/exams etc. Taking a few day breaks over the festive period only to be notified that other guilds were currently raiding obviously wasn't ideal!

Am I the only one who find this quote sorta, I dont know, disturbing and sad ? That someone deliberately sacrifices his social and family life just to be the best in a friggin computer game, then blames it on developer ? Thats gaming addiction right here.

Originally Posted by Temma

Basically from what I read: "Hi! we are from Method and we are going to QQ becuase we couldve beat Paragon if we were as good as them if they wouldve waited for Blizzard to fix their bugs"...Face it Method...you are never going to be world first whether there are bugs or not...pretty sure if you were where Paragon was you wouldve been claiming world 1st 13/13 if you were where they were. But, since you werent, GG better luck (cause they totally need it) with the next major content patch...world 2nd is not a winner and doesnt deserve a quote (poorly stated or translated) on MMO front page

You made me lol.
By the way, how's it's going with Paragon? Do you get any love back at you?

Gz Method!
I bet many forum-trolls liked that screenshot ^^

"Rare fishing poles now have a chance to be found in the Bag of Fishing Treasures earned via the Stormwind and Orgrimmar Fishing daily quests."

Does anyone know if there will be new Fishing Poles or if it will be the same old Jeweled Fishing Pole?