MMO-Champion - Patch 4.1 on PTRs - Build 13698
Update Patch 4.1 PTR - Official Notes Update
The Patch 4.1 PTR Notes have been updated once again with the 2 missing changes from build 13698.
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker)
Warrior (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)
Arms
  • Strikes of Opportunity damage has been increased by 10% to keep stat parity with other strike changes.

Fury
  • Unshackled Fury now only grants 2 base points of mastery, down from 8. This change offsets the Flurry boost to better control Fury burst damage.

Patch 4.1 on PTRs - Build 13698
A new build will be deployed on test realms today. Most of these changes were already documented in the latest PTR notes update but keep an eye out for new things!


Nameplates Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
  • UNIT_NAMEPLATES_TYPES = "Nameplate Motion Type";
  • UNIT_NAMEPLATES_TYPE_1 = "Overlaping Nameplates";
  • UNIT_NAMEPLATES_TYPE_2 = "Stacking Nameplates";
  • UNIT_NAMEPLATES_TYPE_3 = "Spreading Nameplates";
  • UNIT_NAMEPLATES_TYPE_TOOLTIP_1 = "This method will allow nameplates to overlap.";
  • UNIT_NAMEPLATES_TYPE_TOOLTIP_2 = "This method avoids overlaping nameplates by stacking them vertically.";
  • UNIT_NAMEPLATES_TYPE_TOOLTIP_3 = "This method avoids overlaping nameplates by spreading them out horizontally and vertically.";



Achievements Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Dungeons & Raids
Cataclysm Dungeon
  • Spirit Twister Defeat 20 Twisted Spirits within 15 seconds during the Jin'do encounter in Zul'Gurub on Heroic difficulty.
  • Ring out! Defeat Daakara in Zul'Aman on Heroic difficulty without leaving the rectangular turquoise stonework inscribed on the floor in the center of his area.


Reputation



Spell Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Class Skills
Companions

Death Knight (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Unholy
  • Raise Ally has been revamped and is now a battle rez spell - Pours dark energy into a dead target, reuniting spirit and body to allow the target to reenter battle with 20% health and 20% mana. 30 yd range, 50 Runic Power, 10 min cooldown, Instant

Glyph

Druid (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Feral

Restoration
  • Lifebloom now costs 11% of base mana, up from 7%. Base healing reduced by 20%, from 2306 to 1847.

Balance
  • Cyclone now lasts 5 sec, down from 6 sec.
  • Starsurge base damage has been reduced by 20%, from [ 1272 to 1756 ] to [ 1017 to 1405 ].
  • Moonkin Form now frees the caster of movement impairing effects instead of slowing effects.

Priest (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Holy

Discipline

Warlock (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Demonology

Warrior (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Protection
  • Spell Reflection now has a 25 sec cooldown, up from 10 sec.
  • Gag Order no longer affects Shield Bash.
  • Shield Mastery no longer reduces the cooldown of Spell Reflect. Now causes your Shield Block to also reduce magic damage taken by 8/16/25%.

Fury
  • Unshackled Fury now Increases the benefit of abilities that cause or require you to be enraged by 11.2%, down from 44,8%.
  • Pummel no longer requires Battle or Berserker Stance.

Arms
  • Strikes of Opportunity now gives a 17.6% (up from 16%) chance for your melee attacks to instantly trigger an additional melee attack for 100% normal damage. Each point of Mastery increases this chance by 2.2%. (Up from 2%)
  • Drums of War no longer affects Shield Bash, now affects Demoralizing Shout, Intimidating Shout and Challenging Shout.
  • Juggernaut now reduces the cooldown of your Charge by 2 sec, down from 3 sec.

Glyph
This article was originally published in forum thread: Patch 4.0.1 on PTRs - Build 13698 started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 85 Comments
  1. zarbus's Avatar
    lol @ DK battle res costing half their RP when every other battle res is basically free. yeah okay.

    Wait... Didn't Blizzard just get done saying the Body & Soul change was a tooltip error?
  1. Wobo101's Avatar
    time to ignore and reforge out of mastery again and stack crit/hit again.

    No worries though it will be back in 4.2, and gone again in 4.3, and back again in 4.4
  1. Obtuse's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by zarbus View Post
    lol @ DK battle res costing half their RP when every other battle res is basically free. yeah okay.
    Lol @ DK's having a viable Battle Rez before Priests or Palys.
  1. slimj091's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Craigadiddle View Post
    More arms buffs, mastery got slightly buffed, not bad.
    Seems fury deathwish is nerfed now.
    that is a big nerf to raging blow also...... it's not like fury is pulling 25k dps regularly. trying to figure out the intent behind all of these fury nerfs..
  1. destructard's Avatar
    Anybody have any idea when the PTR servers are going back up?
  1. NefariousNinja's Avatar
    I wonder if the Ambassador titles will be removed if not exalted with the new additions
  1. slimj091's Avatar
    really... i blame swifty's canadian arse, and his "omg!! i can do 150k damage in three seconds if i blow freaking everything!" video's
  1. Stroved's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by NefariousNinja View Post
    I wonder if the Ambassador titles will be removed if not exalted with the new additions
    I hope not, I have mine, and it took me a while of farming to get it... and I cba to get it with Gilneas
  1. Icecx's Avatar
    So was the PW:B nerf reverted or taken out?
  1. istheshiz's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Joha View Post
    Erm...

    Glyph of Raise Ally - Reduces Cast time on Death Gate spell by 25%? WTH?
    It says it has been replaced by Glyph of Death Gate. Read.
  1. Zokten's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Obtuse View Post
    Lol @ DK's having a viable Battle Rez before Priests or Palys.
    LoL @ DK's for losing a fun unique ability.
  1. mordras's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainArlong View Post
    That's way more dungeon rep grinding than needed.
    Way more rep grinding than needed? On my main I have completed all the Cataclysm reps as well as Gilneas. I can't get rep with any other faction at this point. And it wasn't like I was running instances trying to get the rep either. I was gearing up and doing heroics with guildies.

    My alts don't have the rep, but then again they are alts. I'm not going to be focusing on that. Any person who "worked" to get this achievement previously will no doubt not have trouble getting either Gilneas or Bilgewater to exalted if they haven't already done so.
  1. Blackburn's Avatar
    The Flurry buff does not offset such a massive nerf to mastery on top of the CS nerf announced earlier. Raising warrior DPS through auto attack damage is the right approach to avoid PVP burst issues, but it's not enough. Warriors are at the bottom of DPS charts in every raid setting according to websites such as stateofdps and raidbots. While warrior PVP burst may need a nerf, PVE DPS needs a buff even prior to all these planned nerfs. Other areas where DPS can be raised without PVP issues are OH damage granted by Fury specialization (Fury gets +25% while Combat rogues get +75% for example), and Deep Wounds bleeding damage. Another option is raising Bloodsurge proc chance and making it a stacking buff. This will allow filling free GCDs with Slam a lot more consistently without raising PVP burst. Currently proposed changes look to be an overall DPS nerf to a class that's already struggling to stay competitive in PVE, further compensations are needed.
  1. subanark's Avatar
    Raise dead only 10 minute cooldown? I thought they increased the druid one back to 30 minutes to avoid rez spam every fight. Although with the limit on rezes per battle I really don't see a good reason (outside of pvp concerns) to bring it down to a shorter cooldown.

    With this change though, I really, really hope they increase the HP/mana you get with reincarnate (even if the keep the cooldown at 30 minutes). With just 10% its far too easy to get instantly gibbed after rezing, where your raid can then blame you for rezing instead of waiting for a DK or druid to do it for you.
  1. Notarget's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by subanark View Post
    Raise dead only 10 minute cooldown? I thought they increased the druid one back to 30 minutes to avoid rez spam every fight. Although with the limit on rezes per battle I really don't see a good reason (outside of pvp concerns) to bring it down to a shorter cooldown.

    With this change though, I really, really hope they increase the HP/mana you get with reincarnate (even if the keep the cooldown at 30 minutes). With just 10% its far too easy to get instantly gibbed after rezing, where your raid can then blame you for rezing instead of waiting for a DK or druid to do it for you.
    You're aware you can only use one battle rez in 10 man and 3 in 25 man right? No point in having long cooldowns. The 30 min. is because it's a self rez and require no coordination.

    Edit. I guess you do realize the limited rez per fight, which kinda answers your own question.
  1. Tricsun's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackburn View Post
    The Flurry buff does not offset such a massive nerf to mastery on top of the CS nerf announced earlier. Raising warrior DPS through auto attack damage is the right approach to avoid PVP burst issues, but it's not enough. Warriors are at the bottom of DPS charts in every raid setting according to websites such as stateofdps and raidbots. While warrior PVP burst may need a nerf, PVE DPS needs a buff even prior to all these planned nerfs. Other areas where DPS can be raised without PVP issues are OH damage granted by Fury specialization (Fury gets +25% while Combat rogues get +75% for example), and Deep Wounds bleeding damage. Another option is raising Bloodsurge proc chance and making it a stacking buff. This will allow filling free GCDs with Slam a lot more consistently without raising PVP burst. Currently proposed changes look to be an overall DPS nerf to a class that's already struggling to stay competitive in PVE, further compensations are needed.
    Where do you get bottom of the charts? Fury warriors are pretty consistent with being near the middle of the pack, not bottom.
  1. Blackburn's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Tricsun View Post
    Where do you get bottom of the charts? Fury warriors are pretty consistent with being near the middle of the pack, not bottom.
    I posted it earlier in the thread, but here it is again:

    http://raidbots.com/dpshistory/Overall/25H/#2j569
    http://raidbots.com/dpshistory/Overall/25N/#2j969
    http://raidbots.com/dpshistory/Overall/10H/#2j969
    http://raidbots.com/dpshistory/Overall/10N/#2j969
    http://stateofdps.com/index.php?data...s=200&spec=dps
    http://stateofdps.com/index.php?data...s=200&spec=dps
    http://stateofdps.com/index.php?data...s=200&spec=dps
    http://stateofdps.com/index.php?data...s=200&spec=dps

    If you look at all specs, Fury is middle of the pack. However, if you look at only the top spec for every class, which is what really matters since anyone that cares about min/maxing and progression will use optimal specs, warriors are last or near last in every raid setting.
  1. Mitsumoto's Avatar
    lol at DKs
  1. Focke's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackburn View Post
    I posted it earlier in the thread, but here it is again:

    http://raidbots.com/dpshistory/Overall/25H/#2j569
    http://raidbots.com/dpshistory/Overall/25N/#2j969
    http://raidbots.com/dpshistory/Overall/10H/#2j969
    http://raidbots.com/dpshistory/Overall/10N/#2j969
    http://stateofdps.com/index.php?data...s=200&spec=dps
    http://stateofdps.com/index.php?data...s=200&spec=dps
    http://stateofdps.com/index.php?data...s=200&spec=dps
    http://stateofdps.com/index.php?data...s=200&spec=dps

    If you look at all specs, Fury is middle of the pack. However, if you look at only the top spec for every class, which is what really matters since anyone that cares about min/maxing and progression will use optimal specs, warriors are last or near last in every raid setting.
    That puts arms well above Fury somehow.....on some fights......thats odd
  1. Blackburn's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Focke View Post
    That puts arms well above Fury somehow.....on some fights......thats odd
    AoE fights, especially evident on heroic parses.

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