Firelands raid will not be in Patch 4.1

Originally Posted by Spammeister

I can't think of anyone who would actually approve of this move (maybe you like it to go against the grain, that's your call).

As much as I would like to think that Bobby Kotick has no say in Blizzard affairs, his "business sense" must be rubbing off in some regard.

\Not renewing, maybe in a few months dunno.

I don't think it's anything like that. I think they just really underestimate what people want. I like New Content. I personally see heroic raiding as a bonus for those who are really good. In order to be at a heroic raiding level, I think my group needs to massively outgear content, and I don't think it's very interesting to sit here and pray for wrist armor for my Hunter while i'm all ready decked out. No fight except for the zone bosses (Chogall, Nef and Ak'akir) are even a challenge to us anymore, we bowl the entire group of them down in a 4 hour night.

I was gonna jump on the "You haven't killed all the bosses in Heroic mode" bandwagon, but... doing things over and over is bad enough, but then doing it over and over and over and over because it's more difficult... by the time you kill everything on heroic, you probably want to rip your GD eyes out...

Originally Posted by -Ethos-

I hope the Blizzard staff who work on encounters dont read these forums...

http://www.wowhead.com/item=15138 sup

Originally Posted by Negridoom

Spiteful people. Those that aren't successful and don't want to see others doing even better than they are currently.

I'm a bit jelly of those that are clearing hardmodes already on my server. But that just leads to me hoping that when I do start them that I can do as well as they do.

I'd like to think thats the more mature way to look at things. As apposed to " If I cant raid because of my life, then no one should!"

Its more that if 4.1 was still going to be firelands, it would be very unlikely that a guild just starting hardmodes now would be decently progressed within two months.
Presuming of course that 4.1 will be released in that time-frame.

Originally Posted by Callace

The patches are smaller but not any more frequent. That's the problem.

How could you possibly say that if it's the first time they're trying this?

Originally Posted by Zehroh

Indeed, I remember a couple of days ago I read that people whined about new content coming too fast. I hope a lot will stop their subscription so the amount of QQ would go down.

Its almost as if more than two people play this game.

Different people play, they have different opinions. Stop attributing everything to one mass of faceless people. Thats what a forum is for, the expression of differing opinions.

Originally Posted by Callace

The patches are smaller but not any more frequent. That's the problem.

Seeing that blizzard just made the decision with how they'll deal with content patches, we don't yet know how long each content patches would last. It may be more frequent(which is what blizzard is going for with the new design) or it may be the same (if it is this then I am also riding on the rage train because that would mean 4.2 would come out at least 8 months later)

Blizzard: Hey! We know it's less than what we've always done, but we'll be getting them out MUCH SOONER! *Big Wink!*

Me: *Stops holding breath*

Originally Posted by Idontlikeyou

Is your whole guild decked out already? If not thats pretty selfish. They are holding it back because the majority of the players that raid, have not finished the content, and dont want to release new content that has gear that will easily trump current difficult content. Dont like it, then take your little break, but I am sure your guild wont love you for it.

I am willing to bet the majority of you that think this is a silly decision have not even fully experienced the current raids. Stupid, silly, idiotic Blizzard? No, I say thoughtless, simple minded, slow players for asking for more than what they can currently handle.

Not to mention it gives them more time to create a more epic encounter, than what is already started.

This, this right here. Its amazing how many people feel so entitled. Its freaking sickening. You realize that until recently games never before actually release like WoW does? That huge content packages (outside of expansions) were never done before? That Blizzard has been breaking new ground for years now? Holy crap. If its not interesting to you, or if it doesn't hold on your your tiny little attention spans long enough, go some where else... Jeeze... ><

Save us from the ever lasting tears that you drown yourself and the nonsensical whining. Its not your game. Its Blizzards. They may not do things how you fantasize them to be done. Hell your fantasies may not even be possible or realistic. There are things to get annoyed over, but all this "gimme gimme gimme!" from the children of the more recent generations is ugly as can be.

I rather them perfect it (as they have done throughout all of Blizzards history) then to shove unfinished products out the door. Hell, thats what most of you complain cataclysm is anyways. You rather them pop it into the next patch unfinished to fuel even more of your collective whining??

*sigh* It'd be nice of people could look past themselves for once.

*edit* obviously this is pointed at everyone. But please, for those of you that are, cease with the non-stop griping and tears. If you are upset by it, fine, you are entitled to your opinion. Doesn't mean everyone shares your thoughts or wants to be witness to your tantrum.

Hmm.. For me personally, it's a welcomed delay.
I had a rather rough start into Cata and have just recently found nice raiding Guild, so I appreciate having more time to clear content and try out heroics.

However, I can understand the frustration of those who are done and just have to keep farming or take a break.

Sounds good to me. Gives me more time to get bored of Rift before going back to WoW.

Originally Posted by mistuhbull

I'm still calling BS until the actual blue posters, the ones who provide the info, say this and not some random magazine.

It's not a random magazine it's directly from an interview with J Allen Brack and Tom Chilton at Games Developers Conference which is happening this week.

Also confirmed by blue at http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2179759307

That means no new PvP season until 4.2..... Or there will be another season, but no new gear.

Originally Posted by BLSTMASTER

Seeing that blizzard just made the decision with how they'll deal with content patches, we don't yet know how long each content patches would last. It may be more frequent(which is what blizzard is going for with the new design) or it may be the same (if it is this then I am also riding on the rage train because that would mean 4.2 would come out at least 8 months later)

Point I'm trying to make. Obviously people don't understand what smaller content patches opposed to a big one every several months mean.

Originally Posted by Spoiledkid

All they have to do is make Sinestra drop some BoA tabard that reduces damage in Firelands by 50% and tune the content for tabard users.

Haha i actually wonder sometimes if this is what they will do. Honestly, they've lost it totally, i actually truely believe they employ farm animals to produce content now. Not only are patches filled with the exact things players have said for months (let us not forget "Hi Blizz, you know retri mastery wont work at cata launch, you should probably change it back to extra holy damage") but content is just rehashed crap from the past, please don't tell me firelands will be anything more than Molten Core 2.0. Blizzard are lazy and completely and utterly deluded by their fame. Half the ideas are utter crap and half what they produce are things players thought of 6 months ago.

I kind of took this to mean that they are going to go back to the Vanilla-style of patch numbering, meaning we'll see 4.1 through 4.9, rather than it ending at 4.3 or 4.4. So it's not like you'll have to wait a really long time or anything, we'll probably see Firelands in May or June, which is when I figured we'd see it anyway. Is anyone really all that surprised? If Firelands came out now, it would catch all but the most elite guilds with their pants down. Most of the top server guilds are in the middle of heroic raid content right now, and are nowhere near finishing.

Don't kid yourselves...when you first heard 4.1 was on the PTR you thought to yourself "Woah, that's really soon!" Had you never been teased with the potential of the Firelands raid coming out so soon, you never even would have thought of it. Yes, it's Blizzard's fault for not being painfully clear right up front that this wasn't the Firelands patch. Other than that however, I don't see what people have to complain about. Sure, if we're entering July and August and Firelands still hasn't come out, then feel free to bitch. But right now, get a grip on reality and quit the whining.

Originally Posted by BLSTMASTER

Seeing that blizzard just made the decision with how they'll deal with content patches, we don't yet know how long each content patches would last. It may be more frequent(which is what blizzard is going for with the new design) or it may be the same (if it is this then I am also riding on the rage train because that would mean 4.2 would come out at least 8 months later)

Blizzard has always made up for delays with more content... NEVER less content in a more timely manner. Given their track record, I'm already on the rage-train, because I know where this is heading...The customers having to prove they're being slighted eventually.

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Originally Posted by jackrabbit

Point I'm trying to make. Obviously people don't understand what smaller content patches opposed to a big one every several months mean.

Yeah, but it's going to have been several months before the first smaller patch is out? Do you really see *Blizzard* being on time more often?

So blizz you gonna nerf all the current boss fights then? because it seems to me you want more people to get to do them and if you want to be chucking out content fast then your gonna need to be nerfing the encounters soon so they can get to see them and do them. You either cut this we want wow to be hard bullshit or you bring more content out....your call blizz.

Originally Posted by CaptainArlong

That means no new PvP season until 4.2..... Or there will be another season, but no new gear.

They could push out new seasons and pvp gear in the smaller content patches they're suggesting. Why is this idea so foreign to you people? SMH

I think people forget it was just under 5 months after the release of WotLK that Patch 3.1 (Ulduar) came out. And let's not forget the joke that most of the initial raid content was (minus Sarth 3d). So much unjustified, illogical, dumb rage in here its ridiculous. People will always find something to cry about with this game, it seems like whatever Blizzard does, it just never is enough. People also seem to have this notion that it is 5-6 months away. Did you even read the article? It clearly states they are going to be releasing smaller patches more often. What does this mean? 4.1 probably eary-mid April, with 4.2 probably early June.
I for one am happy for this. It gives me time to experience all the raid content and not feel rushed, on top of working towards the raid drakes (and no Im not a terrible either, we are currently 3/13 on heroic, so by no means bad). Less than 100 guilds WORLDWIDE have CLEARED this tier FULLY. Why would Blizz release a new raid already...