Patch 4.2 - Firelands Raid Preview
Yesterday you had a sneak peek at the Firelands Daily Area, it's time to take a look at the only thing you all want to see: the Firelands Raid instance!

Just like the daily area, it's a little hard to gather a lot of information about it because the instance isn't even supposed to be in this PTR patch but hopefully the couple of screenshots/maps below will be enough while you wait a few more months (you could probably count in weeks, Patch 4.2 won't be far behind Patch 4.1) before you see it on live realms.


Firelands Raid - Encounters
According to the Blizzcon 2010 Raids & Dungeons Panel, the Firelands raid will have 7 bosses. We already know 3 of them from achievement icones:


  • Fandral Staghelm, former Archdruid of Darnassus.
  • Alysra, the green drake in charge of transporting Fandral to a safe location at the end of the Hyjal questlines in Cataclysm. (Note: Just because there's an icon related to Alysra doesn't mean it's really a boss, in the case of Valithria Dreamwalker the goal of the encounter was to save her)
  • Ragnaros the Firelord, that one isn't really a surprise, right? And he's so pretty now!

Icon Name Icon Name Icon Name
Achievement_Firelands Raid_Alysra Achievement_Firelands Raid_Fandral_Staghelm Achievement_Firelands Raid_Ragnaros





Firelands Raid Instance - Map



Firelands Raid Instance - Screenshots

Disclaimer - These screenshots are from an early beta of the zone and are not representative of what you will be able to experience on live servers. Live servers will have a polished zone with monsters, tons of decorative elements, etc ... Anything that moves is basically not on these screenshots.







PvP Video - Reckful 3
If you ever watched PvP videos you probably know who Reckful is, Reckful 3 was released yesterday and I strongly suggest that you watch it, even if you don't like PvP that much in the first place.





Blizzard Retrospective Video
If you didn't watch the Blizzard retrospective video posted on the official site yesterday because you didn't have time or didn't feel like watching it, it is now available on Youtube. I think a lot of people didn't realize it's a huge 48 minutes documentary and if you ever played a Blizzard game, you'll like it.

0:00 - 07:15 Creation
07:15 - 08:40 Rock n' Roll Racing
08:40 - 10:38 Lost Vikings
10:38 - 12:23 Blackthorne
12:23 - 18:30 Funding
18:30 - 20:41 "Blizzard" origins
20:41 - 23:19 Embracing our Inner Geek
23:19 - 25:28 Justice League
25:28 - 26:53 Warcraft I
26:53 - 27:20 Warcraft II
27:20 - 29:16 Warcraft III
29:16 - 30:11 Diablo I
30:11 - 31:27 Battle.net
31:27 - 34:48 Starcraft I
34:55 - 41:00 WoW
41:00 - 43:56 Starcraft II
44:02 - 48:11 Leading responsibly


This article was originally published in forum thread: Firelands Raid Preview, Reckful 3 PvP Video, Blizzard Retrospective Video started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 194 Comments
  1. mmoc8ed975d13a's Avatar
    What's the matter with you guys? Reckful is atm. one of the best ( if not the best ) rogue in the world. If you even watched a whole movie, you'll see that he's doing like few things in a short time, so it really takes a bit skill to play like him. He even explained what he's doing ( yup, small white letters in some parts of movie ). So Reckful was actually amazing.

    About Firelands - hope it'll be same amazing as Ulduar was =) Can't wait for it.
  1. Chadwixx's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoeii View Post
    I'll just quote Russet from AJ:

    Hahaha I just watched the video. Odd for MMO-Champ to post it, he should know that his entire customer base is filled with mouthbreathers who find it exciting that someone can avoid standing in fire while mashing 1 for 10 minutes.

    Comments are pure gold man. "What does gouge do? Is it a stun?"
  1. mmoc4be82de5b9's Avatar
    The only people that would call reckful or his video horrible are someone who masturbate on pve heroes avoiding fire during an raid encounter and pressing 3 buttons . Half of the players here don't know shit about PvP lmao , it's actually an amazing video , I really liked it .
  1. Therec's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Chadwixx View Post
    QFT. Couldn't care less what AJ forums think, just like they couldn't care less what PvE forums think.
  1. Bucky Mclachlan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Seejay View Post
    Reckful has the highest rated 3v3 team in the world, so when he releases a new video it's a pretty big deal. Kind of like releasing a world first video in many ways. To all the complainers, get off your high horse, really.

    Very good video, only part of this new post I bothered to watch/read frankly.
    Reckful has earned every single gladiator title from season 3 on. He is the only player to do a similar feat...sure multiple season glads aren't entirely uncommon, but very few of them have been rated #1 in their battlegroup (and reckful plays on one of the most competitive battlegroups out there) consistently for 7 seasons in a row now. Vengeful/Brutal/Deadly/Furious/Relentless/Wrathful (and soon to be Vicious) Gladiator Reckful is indeed a big deal. Pretty much hands down the best rogue in the game.
  1. Theendgamelv3's Avatar
    It is a boring video. 2 people who like PVP vids and know who Reckful is found it boring and one of those guys suggested other videos of his. I watched the video for 3-4 mins and there wasn't anything too exciting for me. As a video to learn or to analyze, yea it might be a good video for that, but it isn't that enjoyable to watch. With that said, PVE videos are JUST AS BORING. Seriously, watching WoW videos with gameplay in general are boring as hell. I watched some of Paragon's video of Sinestra not for entertainment, but to see a fight I may or may not never see and to see what they were doing. I was more interested when the hunter POV came up.

    To say PVP takes more skill than PVE isn't fact and will never be fact nor is PVE takes more skill than PVP. As someone said, apples to oranges. To say PVP takes more skill, do you honestly think that the top PVP players if they were in a guild together and did PVE content do better than Paragon? At the same time I don't think the guys at Paragon could out best the best pvp players in the world. PVP and PVE are 2 different beasts. The top guys who PVP like Reckful deserve alot of props, they are the best of the best just like Paragon and top guilds in the world for PVE.

    Whoever said this:

    "I knew the majoirity of the WoW community was a bunch of idiots"

    They shouldn't be calling others idiots.
  1. Aster's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky Mclachlan View Post
    Reckful has earned every single gladiator title from season 3 on. He is the only player to do a similar feat...sure multiple season glads aren't entirely uncommon, but very few of them have been rated #1 in their battlegroup (and reckful plays on one of the most competitive battlegroups out there) consistently for 7 seasons in a row now. Vengeful/Brutal/Deadly/Furious/Relentless/Wrathful (and soon to be Vicious) Gladiator Reckful is indeed a big deal. Pretty much hands down the best rogue in the game.
    While Reckful is a great player, his video was fucking boring.

    I wish people would stop sucking up to him and taking the video for the video, instead of argumenting that the video is great because the player is great, which is a terrible logical fallacy.

    If you pick any 5 videos to watch from Glads at AJ right now, I can guarantee at least 4 of them will be better than this. I would know, I actually watch PvP videos. The only particularly enjoyable scene here was he controlling the Rogue with re-saps (even resapping while shadow dancing) while killing his teammate, everything else was duelist skill at best.
  1. Canbie's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SemtexJack View Post
    Why encourage us to watch some boring pvp video?
    So he gets another 100k extra views probably. Never again. I remember why I don't PVP.
  1. Bucky Mclachlan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Aster View Post
    While Reckful is a great player, his video was fucking boring.
    Boring for scrubs like you that don't understand what is going on, sure. It just looks like a bunch of random pvp to the uninitiated. You can see the skill of him and his teammates quite clearly on display, the way he shadowsteps to kick healers when their dps is close to dropping or even stays on them to allow the shadow priest and dots to finish him off, and the way his shadow priest utilizes leap of faith, and the druid uses nature's grasp when his shadowstep is on cooldown at the appropriate times.

    The rest of your post shows you to be an obvious troll so I'll just leave it at that.

    Fact is that most of the "entertaining" pvp videos out there are full of scrubs and usually lots of gimmicks (SEE: MERCADER, a decent pvp rogue without even a duelist title backing him up, yet he gets praise from all the masses on boards like this due to his entertaining gimmicks), and this one is not. You can learn from watching this. And that makes it far more worth it to take a look.
  1. mmocf52e95200c's Avatar
    so back to the sulfuron keep

    what do you think, will ragnaros emerge from the puddle in the middle, or will he engage a star gate access code and come through the worm hole that is created by the star gate in the back?
  1. Kiro's Avatar
    I'll sum up the Reckful video: He's the best "known" rogue out there, period. His video is boring (even if you know what's going on most of the time), with the included horrible music, is terrible. If you're going to make a video "for people", which you are if you're posting this stuff up on YT, please stop putting music "you think is great" in there because many won't like it. Then again, I think PVE-kill vids are boring too, dealing with scripted fights with mechanics that sometimes RNG for you or against you. WoW isn't a game to demonstrate superior player skills anyways, as it's very-very casual at it's core. PVE is "who has the most time, the luckiest RNG, best latencies", while PVP has an added layer of "human touch" meaning it can't be scripted but usually people go for the same "strat" anyways based on comps. IMHO: player skill level demonstration: WoW PVE --> WoW PVP -> RTS --------> Solo FPS --> Team Based Objective FPS. There's really no disputing it neither in my mind, as I've tried numerous times already.

    Firelands raid looks more of the same'ol-same'ol. Maybe the final product will look 10x's better or at least look different, we'll see. I hope they don't plan on leaving in a raid with only 7-bosses for an entire tier as that'll get beat as fast as it's up, or after their stupid "gating to artificially extend said content!" is up. I was under the assumption from reading past articles prior to Cata we'd get TWO RAIDS per patch plus a bonus lottery boss. If we get 7+1, we're getting hosed.
  1. mmoc32fbbf5879's Avatar
    Yet Another Arena Video... I really have no words now... All i can say is... Nice PVP in world of WARcraft...
  1. Orodoth's Avatar
    Reckful 3 was 10 minutes of my life well spent.
  1. Bucky Mclachlan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiro View Post
    I was under the assumption from reading past articles prior to Cata we'd get TWO RAIDS per patch plus a bonus lottery boss. If we get 7+1, we're getting hosed.
    We do not yet know all of the content coming out in patch 4.2. It is likely that there are other raids as well that we have not yet been told about. Firelands is a given, since we already know what's going on in Hyjal. There's probably more surprises in store for us, Blizzard did state that their raid model for Cataclysm would be to have several smaller raids for the first few tiers, and 7 bosses indeed is a small raid.
  1. Masqerader's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowstorm View Post
    because some people likes to watch PvP videos?

    that video was very zzzzzzzz
  1. sluggs's Avatar
    We should know the 4th bosses name which is Aranae due to a lair being named after him.
  1. Aster's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky Mclachlan View Post
    Boring for scrubs like you that don't understand what is going on, sure. It just looks like a bunch of random pvp to the uninitiated. You can see the skill of him and his teammates quite clearly on display, the way he shadowsteps to kick healers when their dps is close to dropping or even stays on them to allow the shadow priest and dots to finish him off, and the way his shadow priest utilizes leap of faith, and the druid uses nature's grasp when his shadowstep is on cooldown at the appropriate times.

    The rest of your post shows you to be an obvious troll so I'll just leave it at that.

    Fact is that most of the "entertaining" pvp videos out there are full of scrubs and usually lots of gimmicks (SEE: MERCADER, a decent pvp rogue without even a duelist title backing him up, yet he gets praise from all the masses on boards like this due to his entertaining gimmicks), and this one is not. You can learn from watching this. And that makes it far more worth it to take a look.
    So, in your eyes, mixing Ad Hominem attacks with counter-arguments that are barely tangents to the main arguments while speaking eloquently disqualifies your post as a troll? Good one.

    Shadowstep kicking focus targets is a challenger skill at best.
    Smoke bombing a dps under 2-4k health and then letting him die to his partner dots isn't gladiator level either.
    Anyone who has been doing arena for Wrath know more than a handful of Death Grip tricks and using Life Grip in reverse isn't something that would take a brain surgeon level of intelligence to do. Chase Warlock down the dalaran arena because he's obviously going to teleport back up, Life Grip Rogue back upstairs, wow, that was so hard/unpredictable to pull off.

    I suggest you go "initiate" yourself into what high level PvP feels like, because one could not simply believe this video was one of the best high level matches that players have to offer unless he is a total scrub, or a sheep devoid of his/her own opinions that just regurgitates whatever nonsense his/her internet gods speak...
  1. TurdChef's Avatar
    What's with this PVP video? I much prefer watching a mage pressing a one button macro for 2 minutes against a big boss model, and occasionally having to move out of a cyclone or chain lightening. Not forgetting the exciting part of the 5 minute encounter - bloodlust!!!

    That video does show the difference between PvP and PvE.

    They're completely different skill sets -

    PvP: Thinking what to do in the next 2 seconds, watching your health bar religiously
    PvE: Being organised as a team and also very patient.

    Sadly team-based PvP (battlegrounds) doesn't bridge the gap at all. Arena at the top ranks is very skillful but down at 1000-1500 sorry but it's just a gear, health point and class battle.
  1. Azaril's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    You obviosly lost the part where BLizzard were talking about the future in the last few mins...
    Yes, all companies talk about the future.

    You do know that after Warcraft 2 was released, they still had patches and support for warcraft 1 right?
    They still supported warcraft 2 after 3 was released.

    They STILL make patches and support both Warcraft 3 and diablo 2 (although its been a while). Blizzard doesn't want to lose any of their +12million players to any other game except for a blizzard game. They have a HUGE development staff dedicated to their new project. Warcraft has many years left in its life and no one at blizzard has ever said anything about it slowing down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    THey did not complete remodel anything... go read the inerviews that were taken with BLizzard devs in GDC 11. THey talked about doing 1/3 rd of the game in Cataclysm. And if you fly over places like felwood you will see how your "total remodel" is just bull.
    You have no idea what you're talking about. The entire world of azeroth outside of northrend was not modeled for flying like northrend is. There was invisible walls everywhere, invisible zone boundaries you couldn't cross, mountains with no textures on the other side. The Kalamidor and the eastern kingdoms had to be redrawn and remodeled completely. The simple fact that you can fly over felwood disproves your statement about not remodeling the world.



    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    I dont find it staggering.. I find it very badly done and will not stand the test of time over the next 5-6 years. They needed to do alot more and do it alot better to actually make the game stick for the future. They didn't. Nothing staggering about that.
    I have absolutely 0 doubt that the next 2 expansions will continue to improve warcraft in ways that we cannot yet imagine.


    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    Yes they are ignoring WOW for the new games- their goal is to get subs from WOW to go into their new games. Go watch the last few mins again - somehow you seemed to have missed all of it.
    You seem to lack the basic understanding that a company can hire a new development staff to either continue work on existing projects or create new projects...

    but you may be right, 2 more expected expansions and dozens of patches adding dungeons, raids, quests and other content over the next 3-4 years is definitely ignoring the world of warcraft


    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    No they did not rebuilt the whole game - they did 1/3rd. They did not change the playstyle of most of the classes - they just created a way for them to balance it very easily. And I never said I didn't like the changes. I said they are doing a very poor job considering the support that the game is getting from the playerbase.
    Something tells you me you play a deathknight, the only class they didn't change the playstyle of because they had already created the new playstyle in WotLK.


    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    Yes there is a MAJOR lack of creativity in the WOW development team atm. With a "total" rewamp of the old world (like you claim) they should have worked on the future systems that will become major part of every MMO - Heck that ALREADY has become a major part of every MMO. That would include more custimisation of character and look + armor. That would also involve adding more variety to mobs - improving the engine so that everything doesn't look exactly the same from lvl 1 to lvl 85. Thats something that BLizzard should have been working on IF they were REALLY doing a total rewamp of the old world. THey just didn't. They changed few maps. Rest is left but ugly like felwood.
    This makes absolutely no logical sense. It's kind of like you're drunk and rambling on about how the cap and trade bill is going to hurt our economic growth causing companies to go out of business because they can't afford to hire 2 new employees to monitor their carbon emissions because it would reduce their profit from $2b/year to $1,999,900,000/year.

    You can read the patch notes again if you want to.
    almost everything changed in wow.
    They have a 100% re-written game engine that warcraft uses.
    They have completely rebuilt 2 of the 4 landmasses in warcraft.
    They went through every [armor/weapon] item in warcraft and had to remodel it in some fashion.
    They changed how nearly every talent, skill and ability works.
    Nearly every character and monster WotLK and earlier has has new models.
    Every zone in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms has changed in some way, some zones had dramatic transformations , some had minor ones.

    These were in the expansion release notes and documented on this website.

    Blizzards next generation MMO engine is not going to be something that other mmo's can do (things like more character customizations, roffle), but is going to be something that once again is going to change the entire MMO gaming industry.

    They are still adding new raids, new content, new story lines, new zones, new world(s) to explore, new (and old) villians to defeat and new heroes for us to fight beside. We will have YEARS to go before we've been able to exhaust all of the probable stories of warcraft.


    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    Im very dissapointed in the way BLizzard is now JUST thinking on how they can end WOW gracefully - instead of taking the game forward to move it from 12 mills to 20 mills. The potential is there IF they were intrested. THey are not. They are just going to spend their broadband capacity on another game - trying to get WOW players to play some other of their games. And no - thats not what WOW players should take lightly and quietly.
    You obviously learned nothing from the video.

    Blizzards goal is not to lead the race with subscribers or make the most money or who ends up with the most rewards. Blizzard does not answer to any one about their products , design, creativity or goals.

    Blizzards mission is simply to make the best video game(s), period.
  1. Shadowdoom's Avatar
    Yes, finally we get an outdoor raid !!

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