Target position on Minimap in Patch 4.1
Patch 4.1 adds a very useful feature to the game, anything you target will now have its position displayed on the minimap! It's obviously very useful when you're looking for a NPC after using the /target command and I'm sure it will make a couple of rare elite hunters happy. (Unless you have NPCScan, in this case you're probably already happy)



Weekly Daily Quest Cap on PTRs
The change to the daily quest cap I mentioned yesterday is now available for testing on PTRs! For the few people who do not trust file changes for that kind of stuff, here is a nice screenshot of the new LFD Panel with the updated text + the new options.

Unless a blue poster says something about it, you can probably expect this change to go live and grinding dungeons might get considerably easier for some of you.





Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Blizzard promised me a pony! (and a raid in 4.1 at Blizzcon)
BlizzCon is a behind the scenes look into the development process. We offer that behind the scenes look because we know people enjoy being able to see our processes, and also hear about what we're thinking about and planning. That comes with the hope that the information is indeed taken as we intend it, which is a candid look at our thoughts and processes. Not bullet points of finalized game features.

Unfortunately those candid thoughts and processes are sometimes interpreted as promises for the development of our games.

The reason we commonly do not discuss our plans until they're in the process of being implemented, or actually complete, is exactly for that reason. BlizzCon is a huge exception to our rule, and while we're not going to stop having BlizzCons and offering those behind the scenes looks for those in attendance who come to see exactly those things, it's really unfortunate to see when they're referenced as promises. (Source)

The death of World PvP
Hrm, I reckon it's rewards that ruined world PvP. Everyone harkens back to TM/SS as the holy grail of world PvP, and that was before and maybe slightly after the honor system was implemented (but before real rewards existed from it). I think you can encourage world PvP all you want, and if there aren't rewards behind it you'll keep people interested for about as long as it takes them to realize there are other things to do that give real power increases. Why would anyone spend any amount of time just pushing back and forth for no reason when you can spend your time toward actual rewards and character improvement? Maybe there are some of you, but I guarantee it'd be short lived.

I mean shoot, you have Isle of Quel'Danas or even quest hubs in Cataclysm where people are literally forced together, and there's complaints that they just want people to stop PvPing so they can get their stuff done so they can get their rewards. That's kind of unfair because I know many did enjoy those situations, but somehow it never meets the awesomeness of TM/SS, and I reckon it just never could again.

The best I can think that you could do is create a specific world PvP zone where you don't allow flying mounts, give some objective to tug-o-war over, and so you can justify giving some semi-meaningful rewards and keep people interested you'd need to find some way to even up the sides (because world PvP is inherently going to be unfair). I think you do all that and you probably have the best working solution for bringing back world PvP. (Source)

Comics
Dark Legacy was a little late this week and I had to postpone the comic update. This week, Dark Legacy Comic #279 and Teh Gladiators #218 + #219!

This article was originally published in forum thread: Target Position on Minimap, Weekly Daily Quests Cap on PTRs, Blue Posts, Comics started by Boubouille View original post
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  1. Uselessrouge's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by lukyl View Post
    SOLUTION TO WORLD PVP....
    if u made it that every kill of another player gained u like 100-200honour, if done alone, and shared if done with a group it would be ALOT popular. atm u kill somone and get pretty much no reward so there is no point. but with high honour available it would be more then worth it.


    yeah and there you have 1000 exploiters hiding somewhere in ashevale killing them 10000 times after the pvp bonus is gone

    not thx



    like the new dungeon system so the last day of raids i can see how many points are missing for cap and go for it .
  1. Singen's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by lukyl View Post
    SOLUTION TO WORLD PVP....
    if u made it that every kill of another player gained u like 100-200honour, if done alone, and shared if done with a group it would be ALOT popular. atm u kill somone and get pretty much no reward so there is no point. but with high honour available it would be more then worth it.
    The problem with that is that once someone is honor capped there's no real point. Offer achievements, temporary titles, stuff like that, and imo it will be more successful than just currency.
  1. Anza's Avatar
    Question about this Random Dungeon Finder -system...

    Did I understand correctly? Now you can gain whole weeks points in one day or?

    Just wondering the Queue timers... It's a good thing that I play an Tank. O_o
  1. Mundayz's Avatar
    Loving the daily/week cap idea. <3
  1. Dominating's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Charagon View Post
    Soooooo, has Blizzard just completely forgotten about world PvP in Outlands?

    Hey, here's a PvP objective in the middle of the zone. If you take it, you get stuff. Instead of worthless Honor Hold tokens, make a world PvP currency that you can use to buy real gear. Put in a few more towns that can be held by either the Alliance or Horde. Southern Barrens would be a great place for one. Hell, most contested zones should have one.
    I agree! The Outlands concept of World PvP which continued what we saw in Silithus and Eastern Plaguelands should be brought back in Cata. Halaa was simply epic; we need that kind of world PvP in Cataclysm, which is supposed to be all about a war between Horde and Alliance.

    ---------- Post added 2011-03-18 at 06:08 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by frunken View Post
    That target on minimap thing is going to suck for stealth classes; when people are magically still targeting you even after vanishing and running 40 yards away.
    I'd anticipate it wouldn't display you on the minimap as soon as you go invisible.
  1. Darthballz's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Charagon View Post
    Soooooo, has Blizzard just completely forgotten about world PvP in Outlands?

    Hey, here's a PvP objective in the middle of the zone. If you take it, you get stuff. Instead of worthless Honor Hold tokens, make a world PvP currency that you can use to buy real gear. Put in a few more towns that can be held by either the Alliance or Horde. Southern Barrens would be a great place for one. Hell, most contested zones should have one.
    And here is the problem with that. Servers are not balanced. Horde on let's say Illidan probably outnumber alliance 20 to 1. That is why Blizzard has steered away from those type of PVP situations. It's also why they make Tol barad an even number of people on each team so that lesser population on a faction have a chance equal to the others.
  1. Nkara's Avatar
    Nice with the weekly dungeon, but I hope they also change the reward to match what you otherwise are able to earn in a week if you did dailies vs weekly. I don't think they will give us 7x70 valor points, but just give us maybe 210 or 280 or something like that. A bit like when they change Wintergrasp dailies into weeklies.
  1. Expectations's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by frunken View Post
    That target on minimap thing is going to suck for stealth classes; when people are magically still targeting you even after vanishing and running 40 yards away.
    Pretty sure when you Vanish or stealth in anyway people loose their target.
  1. Cryonic's Avatar
    Minimap targeting, been wanting that feature a looong time. finally!
  1. Master Guns's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by frunken View Post
    That target on minimap thing is going to suck for stealth classes; when people are magically still targeting you even after vanishing and running 40 yards away.
    Do you even realize how overpowered that would be in terms of honor farming? Honor would be a joke then. 200 per kill lol?
    Please, surely you jest.
  1. Gratlim's Avatar
    I started in BC and I've almost never seen world pvp. The only thing I've seen is world ganking and in general, on pvp servers, people are actually NOT looking for challenge, they jump on you if the overgear you by 3000 miles or outlevel you by 2000. This or they play a lolclass (see mage atm or DK). The only real world pvp I did was back then at lvl59 DK against other DKs at the start of WotLK in Hellfire Penninsula.

    But, if HL world pvp is dead, it's still possible to have fun at low level. For exemple, I created a lvl1 hunter haste twink (78% haste) and around 400 life buffed with 15 resilience (48% reduction damage @ lvl1) and spend my week ends pvp flaged (pve server) in Azshara as alliance, killing quest npc and stuff. In general goblin fotm rerollers (mage) decked in BoA just attack me as they overlevel me by miles and expect me to be a quick kill and flag themselves. I then proceed and have fun killing them.

    World pvp is still around but you need to trigger it.
  1. Cocoa's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Cryonic View Post
    Minimap targeting, been wanting that feature a looong time. finally!
    it just shows where your current target is on the minimap, you can't target from the minimap.
  1. mmoca812163483's Avatar
    OH GOD! Finally!

    Been waiting for a change like this, something like the Warhammer Online thing where you get an arrow underneath your character that points to the thing you targetted. This, showing it on the minimap, is even better. Wish I had that when I was camping the TLPD and the other Northrend rares.
  1. Avatar's Avatar
    Just to get this right.

    I have to complete 7 random dungens in one week to earn 70 Valor Points ?
    7 ? Nice job Blizzard. I have to play and play and play
    It is possible that you enter the same rnd dungeon an Monday and on Tuesday. Will that be changed then ? Hope so...
    After one week of let´s say playiny 6 rnd dungeons will that vanish on day 7 without getting any valor points ?

    When you have a life and can only play in the evenings 3 days a week you will never be get Valor Points from rnd dungeons.
    Perfect for all who can play and play and play. Bullshit for all others. This is not an improvement.

    Blizzard please remove this point crap completly from this game. This was and will always be crap.
    To get high level epics from doing daily hero kindergarten is a slap in the face for raiders.
  1. mmocd75b9c5af0's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Master Guns View Post
    Do you even realize how overpowered that would be in terms of honor farming? Honor would be a joke then. 200 per kill lol?
    Please, surely you jest.
    Do you realise that the feature is for NPC targeting only? How will this have any affect on honor farming?
  1. Jaelian's Avatar
    I hope we are being rewarded more VP for those 7 dungeons we do rather than the current 70 per day.

    And we get horde Attacking goldshire regularly on Thunderhorn, although they always complain when they get overbeared when SW is close and we have a major PvP guild alliance side.
  1. mmoc1e89a99e36's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatar View Post
    Just to get this right.

    I have to complete 7 random dungens in one week to earn 70 Valor Points ?
    7 ? Nice job Blizzard. I have to play and play and play
    It is possible that you enter the same rnd dungeon an Monday and on Tuesday. Will that be changed then ? Hope so...
    After one week of let´s say playiny 6 rnd dungeons will that vanish on day 7 without getting any valor points ?

    When you have a life and can only play in the evenings 3 days a week you will never be get Valor Points from rnd dungeons.
    Perfect for all who can play and play and play. Bullshit for all others. This is not an improvement.

    Blizzard please remove this point crap completly from this game. This was and will always be crap.
    To get high level epics from doing daily hero kindergarten is a slap in the face for raiders.
    What is this I don't even.....? I really hope you are a troll. I just.... Really....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mambaru View Post
    Do you realise that the feature is for NPC targeting only? How will this have any affect on honor farming?
    I think he was referring to the guy who wanted to bring world PvP back by giving 200 honor points when you kill an opposite faction player somewhere in the world.

    This Guy:
    Quote Originally Posted by lukyl View Post
    SOLUTION TO WORLD PVP....
    if u made it that every kill of another player gained u like 100-200honour, if done alone, and shared if done with a group it would be ALOT popular. atm u kill somone and get pretty much no reward so there is no point. but with high honour available it would be more then worth it.
    And yes, that would be overpowered. Like Uselessrogue stated above, there would be a huge amount of exploiters who would just farm the honor with friends or such. You could easily cap the honor points in less than 5minutes if done near a GY. And now that we are available to buy stuff like Elementium ore and Savage leather for honor points, I really don't want to even think what would happen to those >_>
  1. Chaoslux's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatar View Post
    Just to get this right.

    I have to complete 7 random dungens in one week to earn 70 Valor Points ?
    7 ? Nice job Blizzard. I have to play and play and play
    It is possible that you enter the same rnd dungeon an Monday and on Tuesday. Will that be changed then ? Hope so...
    After one week of let´s say playiny 6 rnd dungeons will that vanish on day 7 without getting any valor points ?

    When you have a life and can only play in the evenings 3 days a week you will never be get Valor Points from rnd dungeons.
    Perfect for all who can play and play and play. Bullshit for all others. This is not an improvement.

    Blizzard please remove this point crap completly from this game. This was and will always be crap.
    To get high level epics from doing daily hero kindergarten is a slap in the face for raiders.
    7 randoms for 7 times 70 valor points
    Its really nothing more than "7 Per Week Instead of 1 Per Day".
    ITS A GOOD CHANGE FOR PEOPLE WITH A LIFE. It means you can get the same rewards for playing 3 days a week and doing 7 dungeons, or playing 7 days a week and doing 7 dungeons.
  1. Libretto's Avatar
    dungeon change is amazing. GL finding a tank any day that isn't a tuesday.
  1. Vespian's Avatar
    What a big pile of bogus on the account of world pvp.

    World pvp was great, but occasionally it crashed servers and Blizzard literally tried to kill it off. First they removed Honor kills from guards, which is fine. Then they implemented -honor points (dishonorable Kills) for killing guards, effectively halving the amount of open world pvp and then they implemented BG's and gave it more honor than outdoors pvp. Blizzard killed outdoor pvp and now they're going "Oh gosh, we never saw that coming". Screw you Blizzard. I'm happy I left for Rift.

    I forgot to mention they also upped the amount of guards that spawned in towns at the same time with the dishonorable kills, so you could never get more +points than -points.

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