MMO-Champion - Remote Guild Chat Preview, Savage Defense and Blood Shield
Remote Guild Chat Preview
Blizzard posted a small preview of the remote guild chat on the World of Warcraft Remote Services page.
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker)
Real time guild chat on your phone. Keep in touch with your guildmates and always be in on your guild's discussions with the new mobile Guild Chat feature. With a subscription to World of Warcraft Remote, you can view and participate in your guild's chat in real time, engage in one-on-one conversations with other guild members, and more!

Subscription Features

  • Stay in touch with your entire guild wherever you are
  • See which guildmates are online
  • Initiate one-on-one conversations with guild members
  • Keep the guild up-to-date with your Arena team and Rated Battlegrounds plans
  • Filter by guild chat, officer chat, and whispers


Savage Defense and Blood Shield "Issues"
Originally Posted by Daxxarri (Blue Tracker)
There are two issues here.

One is that the combat log is saying “refresh” in a confusing way when it’s really just applying damage to the shield (i.e. a new shield has not been created). We’re looking at some ways that might be fixed.

The second issue has to do with our combat log (or third party logs) apparently disagreeing about what happened. Remember, our combat calculations are done on the realm side and then reported to the client, but the client only gets those reports periodically. The message has to travel a potentially long distance between your client and our realms. It’s important that the calculations are done realm-side though, to maintain gameplay integrity.

Because of the latency inherent in client – realm communication, it can appear that a hit lands before the shield procs, yet still applies to the shield, leading to the mistaken impression that the proc isn’t occurring properly. In reality, the server is (probably) performing the steps correctly, but the client sometimes lags behind. For example, there's a case where what actually happened is this sequence: 1) shield proc, 2) hit, 3) absorb, but the client is slightly behind and instead (incorrectly) shows 1) hit, 2) shield proc, 3) absorb in the combat log. Or it could appear that you lost shield points without actually taking less damage, when in reality either the shield or your health pool weren’t affected. Or it could appear that if you take multiple hits nearly simultaneously that the shield did nothing to the later hits, but in reality the shield was gone on the first hit and your client just hasn’t been notified of that fact yet. We will investigate this issue just to make sure, but we’re pretty confident that Savage Defense and Blood Shield are working correctly and are just sometimes getting misreported. With Savage Defense lasting longer in 4.1, you may see this kind of thing more often.

The takeaway is that latency can in some cases cause combat log display issues like the one we’re seeing here. We understand that a lot of you use the combat log as a reporting tool to analyze a fight after the fight has concluded. The combat log as currently implemented is supposed to give you a data feed in real time. We’d like to redesign the combat log to fill that post-combat analysis role better (as Ghostcrawler alluded to in a recent Q&A) but that is a Very Big Task. Just delaying the current combat log so that it was in 100% parity with the server could cause serious issues with third party mods among other things, so we have to be careful not to turn a single screw and end up dismantling the whole machine, so to speak. Despite its limitations, it remains an accurate and useful tool in the vast majority of circumstances.

Blizzard Art Gallery Update
The World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King Art gallery has been updated with six pieces representing the Warcraft universe.


This article was originally published in forum thread: Remote Guild Chat Preview, Savage Defense and Blood Shield "Issues", Art Gallery started by Boubouille View original post
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  1. Ephilia's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Myci View Post
    First And that guild chat thing looks awesome!

    i wonder how much it will cost, and what phones it will be available for >.>
    "Remote Guild Chat (Coming Soon!)
    Now in development for iPhone, iPod touch, and Android"

    Taken from http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/services...te/#wow-remote

    Odd there's no Blizzard made Armory for Andriod yet, only exists for Iphone so far
    Guess/hope its launched when the gchat is lauched as well..
  1. SomethingcooKiljaeden's Avatar
    4.2 is going to bring me back into WoW. It is giving us all the stuff Cata was supposed to launch with
  1. Krafmon's Avatar
    Finally bears are getting the buff they need. Of course it happened after i switched to feral dps :/
    Now I just have to spec balance so my kitty can get some dps boost (needed for PvE, not PvP)...
  1. diabolikal's Avatar
    Indeed this justifies the $3 price of the remote auction house. Now all we need on Android is the official armory.
  1. Duster505's Avatar
    ahhh ! now we know what the coders have been doing for the past few weeks.... Making Blizzard 3$ more per month ! Screw the subs - they can play ZA and ZG for next 6 months !
  1. TylerN's Avatar
    The remote subscription is still not worth it IMO, good for me i suppose - a few bucks saved.
  1. homerunhomer's Avatar
    I would have been excited for the remote guild chat. It's just a shame that I can't stand my guild or its members.

    Now a chat feature with friends in whisper...
  1. Cocoa's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by trhemp View Post
    seems pretty nice, however its sad that this is what they are trying to push out instead of new content. This game is getting very very dull
    people who work on web and app related content have nothing to do with game content
  1. Snakebite's Avatar
    Blizzard have really really boring guild conversations
  1. Cocoa's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    ahhh ! now we know what the coders have been doing for the past few weeks.... Making Blizzard 3$ more per month ! Screw the subs - they can play ZA and ZG for next 6 months !
    completely different "coders" work on those 2 things
  1. Tablemaker's Avatar
    About 4 years ago I was in a guild with a player whom had his own remote chat. He was a genius, and then some, when it came to scripts. Wouldn't suprise me if he was actually a dev... because at the time, there were a couple devs in the guild. The alliance rogue near the Wintergrasp portal in Dalaran is named after one of them. I am amazed it took this long for them to release some type of remote guild chat.
  1. DeanyKong's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    ahhh ! now we know what the coders have been doing for the past few weeks.... Making Blizzard 3$ more per month ! Screw the subs - they can play ZA and ZG for next 6 months !
    You'd think so, but you'd be wrong.
  1. CombatJack's Avatar
    Thank god this is being created. So many times I've been at work and wanted to talk to the one guy in my guild that has no life. Guild forums and IRC channels are no longer needed. Thank you Blizzard.



    What a piece of crap.
  1. Pooley's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by trhemp View Post
    seems pretty nice, however its sad that this is what they are trying to push out instead of new content. This game is getting very very dull
    Rumour has it there is now more than just one guy at Blizzard, he hired a second guy. Now they can work on more than 1 thing at a time!
  1. Pumps's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by fangless View Post
    It's $3/mo, and it's included with the mobile armory Plus app. So, it's on whatever phones that's on already.
    I just knew it was going to be cheaper in the US. The Eu price is 2.99 euros which is $4.29

    Either way its too expensive. I think they are too greedy.
  1. Leoni's Avatar
    guild chat while your not at your desk what next playing wow on a gameboy fuck off activision money grabbing chunts
  1. La's Avatar
    If I need to talk to my guild or check the AH that badly on a game, then I might just go see a therapist because I probably have a major problem with my head. I really doubt anyone would ever need to do either of those two things either, unless your only friends are your friends online and your only hobby is working the AH? lol.
  1. harkonen's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by trhemp View Post
    seems pretty nice, however its sad that this is what they are trying to push out instead of new content. This game is getting very very dull
    very very very tbh, wish there was actually a decent alternative.
  1. insomniac190's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Cocoa View Post
    completely different "coders" work on those 2 things
    That's not the point really. If they weren't paying these people to work on phone apps, they'd have more money to hire people to work on content.

    All these new updates are lame to me when we compare it to things from Wrath. I mean if you look at Wrath, we got the dungeon finder and achievements. Two pretty big things IMO. What have we gotten in Cata? RBGs are pretty big for the people that can do them, but that isn't a lot of people.

    I can't wait until the next expansion when we don't get a new class, race, or profession. And they push it forward with "Remodeled Races"!
  1. S7orm's Avatar
    Android support

    S7orm (me) approves

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