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Patch 4.1 Preview -- Dungeon Finder: Call to Arms
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker)
In patch 4.1 we'll be introducing Dungeon Finder: Call to Arms, a new system intended to lower queue times. Call to Arms will automatically detect which class role is currently the least represented in the queue, and offer them additional rewards for entering the Dungeon Finder queue and completing a random level-85 Heroic dungeon.

Any time the Dungeon Finder queue is longer than a few minutes for level-85 Heroics, the Call to Arms system kicks in and determines which role is the least represented. In the case of tanking being the least represented role, the "Call to Arms: Tanks" icon will display in the Dungeon Finder UI menu where class roles are selected, and will also display on the UI when the queue pops and you are selected to enter a dungeon. Regardless of your role, you'll always be able to see which role currently has been Called to Arms, if any.

Call to Arms is meant to lower wait times by offering additional rewards for queuing as the currently least represented role. To be eligible for the additional rewards you must solo queue for a random level-85 Heroic in the role that is currently being Called to Arms, and complete the dungeon by killing the final boss. Every time you hit these requirements (there is no daily limit) you'll receive a goodie bag that will contain some gold, a chance at a rare gem, a chance at a flask/elixir (determined by spec), a good chance of receiving a non-combat pet (including cross faction pets), and a very rare chance at receiving a mount. The pets offered come from a wide variety of sources, and include companions like the Razzashi Hatchling, Cockatiel, and Tiny Sporebat, but the mounts are those specifically only available through dungeons (not raids), like the Reins of the Raven Lord from Sethekk Halls, Swift White Hawkstrider from Magister's Terrace, and Deathcharger's Reins from Stratholme.

This system is meant to address the unacceptable queue times currently being experienced by those that queue for the DPS role at max level. The long queue times are, of course, caused by a very simple lack of representation in the Dungeon Finder by tanks, and to some extent healers. We don't feel the tanking and healing roles have any inherent issues that are causing the representation disparity, except that fulfilling them carries more responsibility. Understandably, players prefer to take on that responsibility in more organized situations than what the Dungeon Finder offers, but perhaps we can bribe them a little. While this system gives tanks and healers something extra, the incentive is being provided so that we can help players in the DPS role get into more dungeons, get better gear, and continue progressing.

While the gold, gems, flasks, and elixirs are OK incentives, we knew we needed something more substantial. We had briefly considered Valor Points and epics, but decided that wouldn't be working toward the goal of helping DPS players progress, and ultimately wouldn't keep tanks and healers in the Dungeon Finder system for very long. We settled on pets and dungeon-found mounts as they’re cosmetic/achievement items that players tend to try to get on their own, so why not change that up and offer them a chance to get some of those elusive pets and mounts in a way that also helps other players? Even if they don't get a pet or mount, or get one they already have, the gold and other goodies still feel rewarding enough that it won't feel like a waste of effort.

We think it's a pretty solid incentive to get tanks and healers queuing, give max-level players another way to collect the pets and mounts they so desire, and above all, to improve wait times for DPS players sitting in queues. In the case of lower level dungeons, it's actually not uncommon for DPS to be the least represented role, and so if this new system works out and we're pleased with the results, we may consider applying this same mechanic to lower level dungeons as well.
This article was originally published in forum thread: Patch 4.1 Preview -- Dungeon Finder: Call to Arms started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 1871 Comments
  1. Buttered Toast's Avatar
    Well....

    time to get back to tanking in 4.1
  1. lonedrifter's Avatar
    Lol this might actually make more people wanna tank and heal in heroics, and maybe get some of those dps to try healing or tanking as a offspec! So i really like this idea of lowering que times =D! Glad i have a lv85 tank and healer already <3
  1. Mortalman888's Avatar
    as a tank that needs nothing from heroics i find this as a an absolute great idea!
  1. Bairyhalls's Avatar
    at least its not special rewards as clearly tanks (and to some degree healers) are in need, and never by any means dps...

    i just fear that it will make people unable to tank sign up as tank, cause they want anzy -.-'
  1. Wolfie of Medivh's Avatar
    I'm thrilled. This is a nice incentive to do what I would be doing normally on my tanks. Add in the hierloom tanking items, so people can level a tank from the start, it really increases the likelihood of getting tanks in the queue
  1. Acolon's Avatar
    Better would be some sort of random throw of what you would get as a tank, maybe just cash, maybe the mount you wanted all the time.

    Since, once the tanks and healers got their mounts and pets, it would return back to the usual epic long waiting time.
  1. Punks's Avatar
    Holy shit, NICE!
  1. lol's Avatar
    Doesn't really effect me I already got the 3 mounts and with ease due to luck.. But I can see a lot of QQ from this. :x
  1. Imhullu's Avatar
    So how does this work for dps at max level though?
    o.O
  1. Larini's Avatar
    incoming! every warrior/dk/pally/druid that wants to waste your time by queing as a tank in dps gear/spec. yep def solves all our problems. >.<
  1. roflwaffle's Avatar
    so anyone who only dps's or heals wont ever be able to get this benefit since tanks are ALWAYS guna be the Call To Arms : /
  1. swills's Avatar
    I love the way that everyone who continues to get *exactly what they are already getting* but with the ADDITION of shorter queue times feels "fucked over".

    If you want the stuff re-roll tank. If enough tanks start queueing, then the buff goes away anyway as tanks are no longer under-represented. The buff is only in place *if* the lack of tanks (or healers, or DPS for that matter) is affecting queue times.

    Really nice idea IMO.
  1. Montesquieu's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Imhullu View Post
    So how does this work for dps at max level though?
    o.O
    If for some reason, DPS are in demand, you'll get a goodie bag. If not, you're SOL, unless you're a hybrid.
  1. Paulosio's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Poxxy View Post
    So I can pretty much expect to never get this on my pure-DPS class characters? :/
    Suppose it depends on how much this encourages tanks and healers to que... If it encourages enough of them then you might get it as a dps sometimes. All of the instances mentioned for mounts are incredibly easy to solo anyway... so it's hardly a loss if you don't get it.
  1. roflwaffle's Avatar
    and thisll maybe help for a month or two till every tank has the mounts
  1. thebeefster's Avatar
    Im a druid. What do i care??? :3
    Problem noobies?
  1. Kaesebrezen's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Validity View Post
    I am disappointed.

    As a DPS, I am at a disadvantage soloing some content to receive these mounts to begin with. Now they are being offered as a reward to tanks, who already have instant queues and are payed small fortunes of gold to tank a single heroic.

    I am now rather upset with Blizzard. : /. It's a lazy solution and a simple bandage to a simple problem: It's not that there aren't enough tanks, it's that there aren't enough classes that CAN tank. Like the aesthetics of being a Shaman, but want to tank? Too bad. "Hybridizing" all the pure classes, though it would admittedly be a bitch to balance, would help to solve this problem a lot.
    Tanks won't be payed if they decide for that way, they have to queue alone without a group.

    Further it isn't "there aren't enough tank classes". We have DKs, Warriors, Paladins and Druids. That's 4 out of 10 classes. And that's enough.
    The problem is that, if those classes can do something different then tanking, there are many people who go that way.
    So, the most simple fix for that is, to make tanking for those classes more attractive, as Blizzard did.
  1. Chucknourishh's Avatar
    BULLLLLLL SHEEEEEET i go to sethekk halls every day for over a year + all the bullsheeet quest chain from swift flight form and now this it was bad enough when they made it so anzu didn't have to be summoned.

    does this mean if i qq i can have a warlock or pally mount on any class i want
  1. domzai's Avatar
    Yay, mounts!
  1. Kaeyoss's Avatar
    Only problem i see is those who dont have other roles feeling gypped out of extra rewards because they chose a class that -cant- do those roles. Beyond that you will get those who patently CANT do those roles queuing up simply for the rewards. Extremely undergeared tanks/healers that just want the rewards, etc.

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