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Patch 4.2 - Justice and Valor Points Rewards
The latest PTR patch updated the Justice and Valor Points vendors and we finally know what to expect from them in the next patch. A couple of important things:


  • Old epic ilvl 359/"Valor" gear is now available from the Justice Points vendor at the same prices.
  • "Old" rare/Justice Points gear is still for sale at the same price.
  • When Patch 4.2 is released, your existing Valor Points will be converted to Justice Points.
  • Normal versions of Bastion of Twilight, Blackwing Descent, and Throne of the Four Winds will be nerfed and will only reward Justice Points.

Level Type Spec Slot Name Price
378ThrownMeleeThrownMorningstar Shard700 x
378ThrownMeleeThrownGiantslicer700 x
378ThrownTankThrownDeflecting Star700 x
378WandSpell DPSRangedTrail of Embers700 x
378WandSpell SpiritRangedScorchvine Wand700 x
378PlateMeleeWristGigantiform Bracers1,250 x
378PlateSpell SpiritWristBracers of Imperious Truths1,250 x
378PlateTankWristBracers of Regal Force1,250 x
378MailPhysical DPSWristBracers of Forked Lightning1,250 x
378MailSpell SpiritWristBracers of Misting Ash1,250 x
378LeatherMeleeWristFlamebinder Bracers1,250 x
378LeatherSpell SpiritWristSmolderskull Bindings1,250 x
378ClothSpell DPSWristEmberflame Bracers1,250 x
378ClothSpell SpiritWristFiresoul Wristguards1,250 x
378NeckMeleeNeckStoneheart Choker1,250 x
378NeckPhysical DPSNeckNecklace of Smoke Signals1,250 x
378NeckSpell DPSNeckAmulet of Burning Brilliance1,250 x
378NeckSpell SpiritNeckFiremind Pendant1,250 x
378NeckTankNeckStoneheart Necklace1,250 x
378FingerMeleeFingerSerrated Brimstone Signet1,250 x
378FingerPhysical DPSFingerSplintered Brimstone Seal1,250 x
378FingerSpell DPSFingerCrystalline Brimstone Ring1,250 x
378FingerSpell SpiritFingerSoothing Brimstone Circle1,250 x
378FingerTankFingerDeflecting Brimstone Band1,250 x
378RelicMeleeRelicRelic of the Elemental Lords1,250 x
378RelicPhysical DPSRelicCovenant of the Flame700 x
378RelicSpell DPSRelicSoulflame Vial700 x
378RelicSpell SpiritRelicSinged Plume of Aviana700 x
378RelicTankRelicDeathclutch Figurine700 x


Ragnaros Testing on Test Realms
Players had a chance to test the fight against Ragnaros last night and a couple of guilds released videos of the encounter. No kill videos yet, but a couple of 40-20% wipes. If you have no idea what's going on, you can always check out the details of the fight in our Encounter Journal Preview.





BlizzCon Benefit Dinner Tickets On Sale - Saturday, May 28 at 10 a.m. PT
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Before the BlizzCon festivities begin, we're inviting you to join us for an evening of good food and good conversation -- all for a good cause. Approximately 200 tickets to a special pre-BlizzCon dinner to benefit Children's Hospital of Orange County will be going on sale tomorrow, Saturday, May 28 at 10 a.m. PT. Keep your eye on the ticket sales page tomorrow for the chance to get yours. For more information on the BlizzCon Benefit Dinner, visit the official BlizzCon website at www.blizzcon.com.

Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Need roll makes items soulbound in Patch 4.2
It's in 4.2 (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Anti Ninja Loot System
I think what you want is a system that keeps people from rolling on the gear you want because you don't believe they deserve it to the same degree you do. There are already restrictions in place that keep people from rolling on items they can't use. We don't want to begin restricting what people can roll on based on current spec, because that's not a black or white situation, which is how the system would need to be set up to work how you'd like.

There are some surefire ways to avoid or seriously cut down on situations like this, but it should be understood that if you enter into Dungeon Finder your rolls can go up against the rolls of someone else, regardless if you think you should get preference or not.

If you're looking for a certain item, I'd let the group know before the first pull and ask if anyone else is going to roll need on it. If nothing else it'll show everyone your intent, and put anyone on display who (at the consensus of the group) isn't playing by what you'd consider to be fair.

[...] To bring one more to the table (or reiterate one, I haven't read all 20 pages), and it's one that is a big reason why the system works as it does: if only tanks can roll on tank gear, then it becomes really hard for anyone else to build up the gear they need to be able to tank. We would end up with a bunch of undergeared tanks ("Sorry guys, but this is the only way I can get armor,") or worse, fewer tanks in the system overall because nobody can get gear. People would be forced to gear for healing or tanking through other means because they wouldn't be able to move fluidly from leveling as DPS to Dungeon Finder and begin acquiring the gear they need to fulfill their role. Or, the Light forbid, one day someone decides they want to try healing or tanking and needs to begin building a set.

At some point systems become so 'helpful' that they're a detriment. For that reason we have to reach a point where we're making sure we're stopping the majority of negatives, but not squeezing the egg of problems so hard that we create four messier ones. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blizzard Art Gallery Update
The World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade Art gallery has been updated with 4 new pieces of TBC Art.

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  1. Nachopie's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Derivatives View Post
    OVER 30k. You guys need to learn to read. Also i'm Demonology. Meaning my big bursts wont be as good as something like Arcane. God you're all defensive hahaha. I can do more than 11k without my pet. Kthanks.

    P.S. Yeah it might be unbuffed on a dummy, but I do even more than that in raids and Demonology gets super damage at 25% (Dummies are at 100%)
    You are super cool you are probably the greatest warlock to have ever lived.
  1. Azrile's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by steamrice View Post
    Whats hard to understand? JP stays the same. If you have 4000 JP than any remaining VP will convert to gold in the mailbox like all badges did when cata came out.

    JP currency doesn't change or get removed because they're still obtained in the same way but with additional methods to acquire.
    It isn´t that obvious. There was also a patch in there where they implemented a soft cap and allowed you to go OVER the 4000 cap. You just couldn´t earn more until you spent yourself below the cap again. They have done it like 3 different ways already.. there has been no blue mention how it will be done this time. We know VP is getting changed to JP, but we don´t know if all our JP is getting converted to gold (happened already), if the 4000jp cap is enforced and we get gold for excess (already happened) or if there is a soft cap (already happened). They have used all 3 methods in the past and have not stated which one they will use this time.

    You may say it is obvious that excess of 4000 gets converted to Gold, but I still think there is a better chance they do the soft cap. But we are probably both wrong, because there are people on the PTR who have mentioned that ALL their JP got converted to gold, and the only JP they started with was what was converted from VP.
  1. maldias's Avatar
    wait, anyone else notice the melee relic Doomflame Fetish costs almost twice what other ones do?
    the other relics, wands, and ranged weapon all cost 700 VP, but the melee relic costs 1,250 VP.
    is that a typo?
  1. lightgil's Avatar
    11k is terrible terrible for a demo lock

    most demo locks can burst 4 times that and maintain at least 20-25k in CURRENT gear. I suspect at least a 5k boost to that in the next teir so that demo lock has have to had been dcing constantly or something to get those numbers
  1. radical's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Derivatives View Post
    OVER 30k. You guys need to learn to read. Also i'm Demonology. Meaning my big bursts wont be as good as something like Arcane. God you're all defensive hahaha. I can do more than 11k without my pet. Kthanks.

    P.S. Yeah it might be unbuffed on a dummy, but I do even more than that in raids and Demonology gets super damage at 25% (Dummies are at 100%)
    PTR is bugged, pets don't attack on that fight. That and he's most likely learning the fight. Nice of you to show off, when you are probably in a 1/13 HM guild.

    ---------- Post added 2011-05-28 at 05:32 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by lightgil View Post
    11k is terrible terrible for a demo lock

    most demo locks can burst 4 times that and maintain at least 20-25k in CURRENT gear. I suspect at least a 5k boost to that in the next teir so that demo lock has have to had been dcing constantly or something to get those numbers
    Lag. Pet despawning. Recount is bugged on PTR.
  1. vaztes's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zephre View Post
    Am i the only one who thinks those cloth dps items are terribad? >_>
    As a arcane mage, not really! ;p
  1. steamrice's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Azrile View Post
    It isn´t that obvious. There was also a patch in there where they implemented a soft cap and allowed you to go OVER the 4000 cap. You just couldn´t earn more until you spent yourself below the cap again. They have done it like 3 different ways already.. there has been no blue mention how it will be done this time. We know VP is getting changed to JP, but we don´t know if all our JP is getting converted to gold (happened already), if the 4000jp cap is enforced and we get gold for excess (already happened) or if there is a soft cap (already happened). They have used all 3 methods in the past and have not stated which one they will use this time.

    You may say it is obvious that excess of 4000 gets converted to Gold, but I still think there is a better chance they do the soft cap. But we are probably both wrong, because there are people on the PTR who have mentioned that ALL their JP got converted to gold, and the only JP they started with was what was converted from VP.
    That softcap you're talking about isn't going to happen again. It happened once because it was the first time they converted from badges to points. Now its "hard" capped at 4000 and the system is already in.
  1. Culi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Truefacts View Post
    It's kind of stupid that they keep doing this. EVERYBODY gets a relic/ranged slot from valor points! Except hunters.
    ofc, lets give hunters 378 range weapons and everyone else their main weapons to lol

    do i realize this ranged/relics are all "stats on a stick" for the respective classes
  1. Penguintamer's Avatar
    Ugh... way too much mastery on all of the agility hunter pieces. God knows we're going to need the haste once we lose our 4-piece.
  1. Azrile's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by lightgil View Post
    11k is terrible terrible for a demo lock

    most demo locks can burst 4 times that and maintain at least 20-25k in CURRENT gear. I suspect at least a 5k boost to that in the next teir so that demo lock has have to had been dcing constantly or something to get those numbers
    Or maybe he was running around removing traps while his pet was on passive? Might want to watch what is going on in the fight.... and read this thread... before commenting.
  1. Huckfealing's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Anomali View Post
    Felguard is passive, he cares for the firetraps, PTR lag. 30k burst is just nothing....

    And please get away from the dummy.
    Maybe its part of the design, Instead of going in and almost dieing use your "Move To" Option on your pet to break it.
  1. Bamahut's Avatar
    Seems like Blizzard kept some of the best quotes from MC for Ragnaros in his own realm. Now I really can't wait to play in firelands!
  1. Crazypants's Avatar
    Alright so I've come to the defense of the 20% nerfs as it is old content.. but you people wanting the current shoulder/helm slots to be available for JP are just being plain lazy. If you want your shiny 4piece bonus or full set, go faceroll yourself through retardedly easy raid content to get it. As it is now with how easy it is to get VP and beating on the BH loot pinata for possible tier drops, those 2 pieces kept as token drops makes the most sense... you should have to put in a little effort. Just a little, though, and you can handle it, I promise.

    Also, you guys having fits over the loot in dungeons.. Just make it clear what you need when you go in and ask if others will be rolling the same. My tank alts gear is pretty crappy so I make it clear I'm there to gear up. When we pug with LFG finder and get into an instance with optional bosses, we generally ask if anyone there needs stuff from them so we can make sure to hit them. No one is going to know you want your loot unless you tell them, just assuming loot should be yours is far too entitled if you're just going to be passive aggressive about making your gear needs known. I've pugged raids and it's always been understood well before we're even in the instance that you need for MS, greed for OS, and if no one needs a BoE, its a free roll. Even been in pugs where everyone has agreed to give it to someone because their alt needs it. Must have just awesome people on Stormreaver, I guess. Granted, I mostly raid with the guild I'm in, and any BoE that isn't needed by someone in the raid at the time, goes to someone in the guild who does need it.
  1. roahn the warlock's Avatar
    He looks kinda easy, but they may just be making it look that way
  1. buggerlugs's Avatar
    Dear blizzard
    FFS Just make 1 type of currency token and make all things buyable with those tokens - just alter the amounts rewarded for different areas 5-mans/heroics/pvp/rated pvp/etc
    If someone wants a pair of ilevel378 boots that cost top raiders 700, let them be buyable. Just reward raiders 3x the amount of tokens
  1. Poppasan's Avatar
    Dat platform got some crazy hp regen.
  1. Thessalor's Avatar
    Making Cho'Gall killable? Okay.

    Making Ragnaros killable? Um... I can deal with that.

    But Blizzard, you had better make Deathwing impossible to kill, so we can make the impossible possible.
  1. Truefacts's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Culi View Post
    ofc, lets give hunters 378 range weapons and everyone else their main weapons to lol

    do i realize this ranged/relics are all "stats on a stick" for the respective classes
    I realize you aren't the only person that responded, but you're the last one on the list. So here it goes as I try to speak your language.

    lol hunters should be gimped in that slot because they shouldn't get their main weapon even though every other class gets one (an item in that slot.) they shouldn't even receive an alternative, since their melee weapon is only a stat stick to the hunter class either because i can't even comprehend what balance is lolol.

    I think I nailed it.
  1. Many's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by buggerlugs View Post
    Dear blizzard
    FFS Just make 1 type of currency token and make all things buyable with those tokens - just alter the amounts rewarded for different areas 5-mans/heroics/pvp/rated pvp/etc
    If someone wants a pair of ilevel378 boots that cost top raiders 700, let them be buyable. Just reward raiders 3x the amount of tokens
    I hope this is only joke
  1. Azrile's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Truefacts View Post
    I realize you aren't the only person that responded, but you're the last one on the list. So here it goes as I try to speak your language.

    lol hunters should be gimped in that slot because they shouldn't get their main weapon even though every other class gets one. they shouldn't even receive an alternative, since their melee weapon is only a stat stick to the hunter class either because i can't even comprehend what balance is lolol.

    I think I nailed it.
    Don´t they do off-hand daggers and swords? that is like half the solution. But yeah, they should probably make an AGI staff that is hunter only. But in reality, don´t hunters have a really easy time getting their melee weapons. There are always a ton of agi swords and daggers littering up the drop tables.

    ---------- Post added 2011-05-28 at 10:50 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Many View Post
    I hope this is only joke
    Wotlk new player? I have nightmares of ´hey guys, who wants to run Kara tonight?'

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