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Patch 4.2 - Justice and Valor Points Rewards
The latest PTR patch updated the Justice and Valor Points vendors and we finally know what to expect from them in the next patch. A couple of important things:


  • Old epic ilvl 359/"Valor" gear is now available from the Justice Points vendor at the same prices.
  • "Old" rare/Justice Points gear is still for sale at the same price.
  • When Patch 4.2 is released, your existing Valor Points will be converted to Justice Points.
  • Normal versions of Bastion of Twilight, Blackwing Descent, and Throne of the Four Winds will be nerfed and will only reward Justice Points.

Level Type Spec Slot Name Price
378ThrownMeleeThrownMorningstar Shard700 x
378ThrownMeleeThrownGiantslicer700 x
378ThrownTankThrownDeflecting Star700 x
378WandSpell DPSRangedTrail of Embers700 x
378WandSpell SpiritRangedScorchvine Wand700 x
378PlateMeleeWristGigantiform Bracers1,250 x
378PlateSpell SpiritWristBracers of Imperious Truths1,250 x
378PlateTankWristBracers of Regal Force1,250 x
378MailPhysical DPSWristBracers of Forked Lightning1,250 x
378MailSpell SpiritWristBracers of Misting Ash1,250 x
378LeatherMeleeWristFlamebinder Bracers1,250 x
378LeatherSpell SpiritWristSmolderskull Bindings1,250 x
378ClothSpell DPSWristEmberflame Bracers1,250 x
378ClothSpell SpiritWristFiresoul Wristguards1,250 x
378NeckMeleeNeckStoneheart Choker1,250 x
378NeckPhysical DPSNeckNecklace of Smoke Signals1,250 x
378NeckSpell DPSNeckAmulet of Burning Brilliance1,250 x
378NeckSpell SpiritNeckFiremind Pendant1,250 x
378NeckTankNeckStoneheart Necklace1,250 x
378FingerMeleeFingerSerrated Brimstone Signet1,250 x
378FingerPhysical DPSFingerSplintered Brimstone Seal1,250 x
378FingerSpell DPSFingerCrystalline Brimstone Ring1,250 x
378FingerSpell SpiritFingerSoothing Brimstone Circle1,250 x
378FingerTankFingerDeflecting Brimstone Band1,250 x
378RelicMeleeRelicRelic of the Elemental Lords1,250 x
378RelicPhysical DPSRelicCovenant of the Flame700 x
378RelicSpell DPSRelicSoulflame Vial700 x
378RelicSpell SpiritRelicSinged Plume of Aviana700 x
378RelicTankRelicDeathclutch Figurine700 x


Ragnaros Testing on Test Realms
Players had a chance to test the fight against Ragnaros last night and a couple of guilds released videos of the encounter. No kill videos yet, but a couple of 40-20% wipes. If you have no idea what's going on, you can always check out the details of the fight in our Encounter Journal Preview.





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Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Need roll makes items soulbound in Patch 4.2
It's in 4.2 (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Anti Ninja Loot System
I think what you want is a system that keeps people from rolling on the gear you want because you don't believe they deserve it to the same degree you do. There are already restrictions in place that keep people from rolling on items they can't use. We don't want to begin restricting what people can roll on based on current spec, because that's not a black or white situation, which is how the system would need to be set up to work how you'd like.

There are some surefire ways to avoid or seriously cut down on situations like this, but it should be understood that if you enter into Dungeon Finder your rolls can go up against the rolls of someone else, regardless if you think you should get preference or not.

If you're looking for a certain item, I'd let the group know before the first pull and ask if anyone else is going to roll need on it. If nothing else it'll show everyone your intent, and put anyone on display who (at the consensus of the group) isn't playing by what you'd consider to be fair.

[...] To bring one more to the table (or reiterate one, I haven't read all 20 pages), and it's one that is a big reason why the system works as it does: if only tanks can roll on tank gear, then it becomes really hard for anyone else to build up the gear they need to be able to tank. We would end up with a bunch of undergeared tanks ("Sorry guys, but this is the only way I can get armor,") or worse, fewer tanks in the system overall because nobody can get gear. People would be forced to gear for healing or tanking through other means because they wouldn't be able to move fluidly from leveling as DPS to Dungeon Finder and begin acquiring the gear they need to fulfill their role. Or, the Light forbid, one day someone decides they want to try healing or tanking and needs to begin building a set.

At some point systems become so 'helpful' that they're a detriment. For that reason we have to reach a point where we're making sure we're stopping the majority of negatives, but not squeezing the egg of problems so hard that we create four messier ones. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blizzard Art Gallery Update
The World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade Art gallery has been updated with 4 new pieces of TBC Art.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Patch 4.2 Valor Points Rewards, Firelands Ragnaros Video, Blue Posts, Artworks started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 184 Comments
  1. Kromtar's Avatar
    For the people asking about whether any T12 will be buyable with valor, in the Patch 4.2 - PTR Build 14179 post farther down on the item list you can see that all 5 slots have a token, with 2 slots having a second type of token. This would be the same as T11 where head/shoulders have a reg and heroic token and everything else has a heroic token, so it should be the same system as T11 with 3 pieces via valor on reg.
  1. Madcaptn's Avatar
    what will be the amount of valor points possible per week? 7 bosses + 7 5mans + 7 zandalaries per week = ??
  1. Balkir's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Madcaptn View Post
    what will be the amount of valor points possible per week? 7 bosses + 7 5mans + 7 zandalaries per week = ??
    As far as I know the weekly cap is still 1250.
  1. CaptainArlong's Avatar
    Oh look! Thrown weapons back on the vendors. Considering the only way to get a Thrown weapon without raiding was by PvPing and spending Conquest Points (forcing people to PvP for PvE gear, hmmm I thought Blizzard was against that) or hoping that an option boss in the Halls of Origin dropped it.

    Why am I just seeing the BC artwork now? I have the artbook from the CE, and none of them are there. That Moroes picture is awesome.
  1. Kromtar's Avatar
    Valor will still cap at 1250 per week, you'll just have to do more heroics/zandalari heroics to reach it since there will be less raid valor unless you do hard mode BWD/BoT/TotFW as well.
  1. Atris's Avatar
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...endors-4.2-PTR
  1. Madcaptn's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kromtar View Post
    Valor will still cap at 1250 per week, you'll just have to do more heroics/zandalari heroics to reach it since there will be less raid valor unless you do hard mode BWD/BoT/TotFW as well.
    oh wow I misread the post, heroics will still give valor, perfect.
  1. det's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcis View Post
    What about T12 "purchasing" system?
    Will it be the same trend as T11 - 3 pieces for VPs and 2 pieces via tokens dropped by end boses or something different?
    Since this is PTR - that part is most likely not implemented....
  1. willowe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Derivatives View Post
    Their Demo Lock only does 11.8k dps? He needs to speak with me haha. I'm bursting over 30k in 359s.
    If you notice he was 'popping traps' im guessing that means running over the circles on the ground to make the explode, and his FG wasn't attacking, it was on passive beside him.

    So I think it's more for those reasons than he sucks.


    That said, looks like a fun fight. GJ Blizz
  1. Raleik's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Truefacts View Post
    It's kind of stupid that they keep doing this. EVERYBODY gets a relic/ranged slot from valor points! Except hunters.
    It'd be kind of ridiculous if they gave a ranged slot to Hunters from VP. That'd be akin to giving a melee class a weapon slot rather than giving a wand to a caster. The ranged weapon is the most important for a Hunter, DPS and stats. A wand's dps doesn't matter at all, it's merely a stat stick. I'd be pretty angry if Hunters could get their main weapon from VP...
  1. Azrile's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokepal View Post
    I wonder what's going to happen to the current Justice Points gear. If the prices on them are gonna go down or not, considering 359s can now be bought for similar quantities of Justice Points. Or Blizzard may just remove them completely, seeing as no one will buy them when 359s are available for Justice Points.
    The articles states the price of the blue gear is the same. Yes, it makes most of it obsolete and nobody will buy it, there are also some slots where you can buy a 346, but there is no 359 available. Still doubtful that people would buy them though.
  1. Pantelija's Avatar
    So far Ragnaros fight isnt interesting at all , its basicly move out of fire , kill adds during hammer phase and repeat

    maybe this is just a small fragment of fight or some mechanics are missing but if they arent this fight will be complete joke in T12 gear ...
  1. The Last DJ's Avatar
    Something really should be done about the entitled *class/spec* here rolling on anything and everything as "payment" for services rendered or for offspec, though. You go in there as a tank, you don't get priority on DPS plate/leather. You queue as DPS, you don't get tank shit. (Unless of course the tank or DPS already has the item in question.) If I'm in there on my tree I'm not snapping up all of the rogue/kitty leather when there's a rogue or cat in the party. It's common fucking courtesy, not someone going AMG THIS OTHER WARRIOR MIGHT NEED ON MY PLATE PIECE. If there are two DPS plate wearers in the party (although I thought the DF was going to try to not do that anymore), tough tits, you're going to have to roll against someone. But tanks and healers shouldn't be scooping up off-spec gear away from DPS that need it and vice-versa. End of fucking list.

    That art is also amazing. Ahhhh, Chess Event and Moroes. Now those were the days. And Nightbane, where I wiped my first raid by playing in "Yakkity Sax" over vent, thus causing 85% of the raid to die from laughing so hard. Good times, good times.
  1. Argroth's Avatar
    Last I remember tanks were out of control with rolling on stuff that isn't theirs, They half ass their way through a dungeon with a real arrogant attitude then roll need on the best dps gear that drops. It was an insanely long wait for a dps LFD group so dps were afraid to kick the guy and wait (AFTER he already would of ninja'd the gear) so the kick wasn't a guarantee dropping a group would add another 20+ minutes to the wait so dps are always screwed. I heard that with t5he inscentive added to LFD the wait is still long and the tanks are worse and more arrogant.

    They should block tanks from needing on non-tank gear, they can still greed to get a dps set (suffer like the rest of us dps) or they can use the tons of points they get from instant ques and dungeon kick near-immunity.
  1. Azrile's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by himynameiswill View Post
    I don't really see how you deserve RAIDing gear if you don't want to raid, but i'd put money on it still requiring tokens. Just as it did in WotLK too etc etc.
    Someone might need to update you from news from about 4 years ago.. But players can now buy raid gear using currency they obtain doing only 5 man dungeons. Pretty sure the patch notes might have mentioned this issue a few times during that time. In fact, I currently have 2 alt characters in almost full raid gear who have never been in a raid. Please refrain from huring yourself when you nerdrage. Stress and high blood pressure are serious medical conditions, please consult a doctor if you feel your face flushing when you read this comment.
  1. steamrice's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Pantelija View Post
    So far Ragnaros fight isnt interesting at all , its basicly move out of fire , kill adds during hammer phase and repeat

    maybe this is just a small fragment of fight or some mechanics are missing but if they arent this fight will be complete joke in T12 gear ...
    That video is missing the part where ragnaros goes bananas on the raid where all the top guild have wiped at. The first 2 phase is quite easy and healers should be full mana by the time P3 hits.
  1. Azrile's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseven View Post
    Would like a definitive answer on what happens to current JPs when 4.2 drops. Are your current VPs converted and *added* to your current JPs? Or do your VPs become JPs and your JPs converted to gold or something?
    This is my big question to. My goal is to try to get all my alts up to 4000 JP by the time 4.2 hits. There is a lot of debate on what happens to current JP, and what happens if you do keep your JP but the sum of VP and JP puts you over 4000. Do yo keep current JP, does the sum of VP and JP give you a soft cap where you can go over 4000, but not be able to earn more?
  1. steamrice's Avatar
    Whats hard to understand? JP stays the same. If you have 4000 JP than any remaining VP will convert to gold in the mailbox like all badges did when cata came out.

    JP currency doesn't change or get removed because they're still obtained in the same way but with additional methods to acquire.
  1. Kahlis's Avatar
    Sorry if this has been asked already, but are T11 helms and shoulders going to be sold for Justice points too in 4.2?
  1. Azrile's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Argroth View Post
    Last I remember tanks were out of control with rolling on stuff that isn't theirs, They half ass their way through a dungeon with a real arrogant attitude then roll need on the best dps gear that drops. It was an insanely long wait for a dps LFD group so dps were afraid to kick the guy and wait (AFTER he already would of ninja'd the gear) so the kick wasn't a guarantee dropping a group would add another 20+ minutes to the wait so dps are always screwed. I heard that with t5he inscentive added to LFD the wait is still long and the tanks are worse and more arrogant.

    They should block tanks from needing on non-tank gear, they can still greed to get a dps set (suffer like the rest of us dps) or they can use the tons of points they get from instant ques and dungeon kick near-immunity.
    There needs to be a 4th button added to rolls. ´need for offspec´ that lights up for people who can equip and use the gear, but who aren´t currently in that role. The problem with the system now is if I need an item for my offspec, I have no option except to roll NEED, or to roll greed against everyone else who is going to disenchant it. Sorry, but especially in PUGs, there is just no time for ´discussion´.. especially in ZA for the people that don´t realize that the bear will be the new bronze drake in a month.

    The other problem is that ´courtesy´is disappearing. I used to be really careful about what I roll need on. But after countless times seeing people roll need on gear they didn´t need... so after awhile, you yourself just stop being courteous. I am basically a ´if it lights up, click it´ player now. Nobody ever calls you out for being a ninja, except for BOE items.. which I always wait til last to roll on. If everyong rolls greed, I do too.

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