Patch 4.2 - PTR Build 14265 Tagged as Release
If you spend time on test realms you might have noticed that the latest PTR build is tagged as "Release". It means it's time to stockpile the gummy bears and get ready for the Firelands, the patch will definitely hit the live servers soon. (Most likely June 21st)



Arena Season 10 Weapons - Models Preview
With the recent announcement of how Season 10 weapons will work in Season 10, it's time for a preview of the weapon models! For the stats, feel free to check the two links below.



Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Player vs. Player
Gladiator Weapons
  • Season 10 Conquest Point weapons will only be purchasable once a required minimum sum of Conquest Points has been reached during the current season. For example, Ruthless Gladiator's Pike costs 3400 Conquest Points to purchase. However, players must first earn a total of 11650 Conquest Points during Season 10 before they are able to purchase it.
  • Season 9 Honor Point weapons will only be purchasable once a required minimum sum of Honor Points has been reached during the current season. For example, Vicious Gladiator's Pike costs 3400 Honor Points to purchase. However, players must first earn a total of 18500 Honor Points during Season 10 before they are able to purchase it.
  • Once the minimum sum of points required to purchase weapons is reached, all available weapons can be purchased for their listed costs. The point requirement is not reset once a purchase is made.
  • Weapon tooltips from the vendor will let players know how many more Conquest or Honor Points must be earned in the current season before the item can be purchased.


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Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Adding more PvP content
We've actually touched on this topic in the past. In general, while we could add more Battlegrounds and Arenas we risk thinning out the queue for all Battlegrounds and Arenas. We're not against the idea of adding more, but it's a matter of deciding the how and the when of doing so.

We could compare the content between PvP and PvE, but it's not exactly an equal comparison given that the styles of play are different as are the end goals.

Just as an FYI, we are putting the Ring of Valor back in again in 4.2, which (while not new) will at least add back in a bit more variety to Arena queue.

Also of note, we are implementing a new War Games interface (which you can see on the PTR) which should make it easier for people to play skirmish type matches against people either in the Battlegrounds or Arenas. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

War Games
We've actually had the War Games in since last December. The only issue was that it required that you knew it existed and used the right game commands to get it rolling. We've now shined it up and added a great new easy to use interface into the patch so that you can start challenging other groups. Just keep in mind, there's no rewards available (including HKs) for taking part in these, but they can be very fun. It's also a great way to hold your own in-game event if you wanted. (Remember when people would meet up at Gurubashi?) (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Feedback and changes to the community
No, I don't. I just think that people have concerns (of which we're aware of) and we're doing what we can to address what we can as we go.

As for having someone else speak, we've been talking and will continue to talk. Just recently Dave Kosak gave some insight on the new quest hubs. (On the blog.) Greg Street continues to share his own insights there as well. No matter your personal thoughts or feelings about what they have to say, they care deeply for the game and community.

While some may have concerns over whether their questions in the Q&As are being answered or not, we are talking there as well. We're here in the forums responding to what we can.

It's true we don't have infinite resources and that's been true since day one of World of Warcraft. That hasn't changed. I see it come up time and time again that the "good" devs have moved to the new project, but that too isn't true in the way people think it is and is insulting and dismissive to the guys (and gals) who have been on the team for years. The people working on World of Warcraft are people who have been here for years or are still being guided by those who have been here for years. The people who "left" WoW haven't really left either. They are here at the studio lending their ears and thoughts to those still working on World of Warcraft. They haven't washed their hands of the game and the company hasn't washed their hands either.

We know we aren't always going to agree on a direction. We know we can make mistakes or not anticipate every possible outcome, but there is no way I'm going to tell you that we don't care, or that the developers don't care or that we are insular from the concerns being voiced.

We are and continue to be passionate about the game and about the community. We're never going to give everyone their perfect answer, but that isn't going to stop us from trying to meet and exceed expectations where we can. We aren't beat or beaten but can understand how easy it is to buy into that idea with so many people repeating the thought. Sometimes it's hard to be positive when you only see the negative, but the positive is still there and we refuse to lay down and go with the negative flow of thought. As any game "ages" it is so easy to forget the good and the "polish" and start picking at what you see as flaws. It's also easy to take for granted all the things that are added in because they make so much sense. Eventually you forget that it was ever new to begin with because it feels like it was always there.

Again, we're totally open to constructive feedback. We're not deaf to it. We just may not react immediately or have the answer you want. It's just not always possible to. That doesn't mean we didn't hear it or think about it on one level or another and it doesn't mean that we are going to suddenly stop listening because we don't like what someone has to say. We're just asking that the dialogue stay open, honest, and most importantly constructive. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

"Grindy" leveling and improving old content
While I wouldn't say that leveling from 1-79 is totally "grindy" (I actually had and continue to have a lot of fun running through those zones), I can definitely see your argument. I mean, a lot of current dungeon mechanics are fun, right? They make you analyze the world around you and adapt changing scenarios, sort of like a puzzle. At first glance, having that kind of gameplay accompany you all the way from lower level quest zones to end-game dungeon content seems like it'd be amazing. But that's just at first glance. There's a lot to be said for keeping the leveling process as seamless and straightforward as possible.

For a lot of players, the goal of World of Warcraft is to meet some benchmark, things like leveling up, getting gear, increasing their character's potency, and/or defeating end-game raid content. While questing may be enjoyable activity in its own right for some (like you!), there's definitely a portion of the population where it's really more of a means to end -- a way of achieving those other goals more quickly or with greater efficiency -- and that's an important fact for us to keep in mind.

It's not that quests aren't important; on the contrary, they're a critical part of the game, and we'll continue to work towards making them even more epic and fun. It's just that if we make quests too challenging or too complicated, especially during the leveling process, we run the risk of creating situations where players might become frustrated and feel like they're being forced into a style of gameplay that isn't exactly their cup of PvE.

Now, that doesn't mean there isn't some sort of balance that can be struck, where we're able to create quests that evoke the fun of dungeon encounters, but never really reach that point where they become tedious or difficult (we totally hear your feedback on that). It's a matter of appealing to as many players as possible and making sure that they're engaged, but not overwhelmed with over-the-top challenge as they level up -- which can be tricky, especially when you have such a wide variety of playstyles and opinions to consider.

Even so, incorporating more dynamic mechanics into questing and using quests as a teaching method is something we'd like to do for future content. Whether or not we should invest the time and resources into revamping existing content, though...well, that's something that we'd have to weigh very carefully, as it would require us to focus our attention away from creating new things. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Rogue (Forums / Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)
Poison Management
If I've forgotten to buy enough poisons to see me through a raid or dungeon, or failed to pay attention to poison durations and seize the occasional moment to re-apply my poisons, then those are issues I can easily resolve by being slightly more mindful.

At worst, glyphed poisons apply very quickly, and it's possible to re-apply them in a non-clutch fight if you have them in your bags. It's not even close to ideal, but it's possible.

Why does it make sense for Hunters to no longer have physical ammunition for their bows and guns it's just MYSTERIOUSLY provided to them but Rogues' poisons must be bought from a specific vendor and then applied to weapons once an hour?
Well, maybe I can shed some light on the mystery then, or at least, our thought process.

Poisons are important to the rogue class and there's no doubt of that. There's still little or no comparison to be made between the use of poison (which amounts to an important buff) vs. ammunition, without which the hunter class was almost totally ineffective. Running out of poisons means a performance hit, but it doesn't mean that performance stops. Running out of ammo meant that a hunter could no longer use most class abilities or perform at anything resembling a meaningful level. It's relatively easy to remain well stocked with a selection of poisons. It required slot after slot of inventory filled to the brim with ammo to keep a hunter running consistently.

Ultimately, ammunition wasn't a mechanic that we felt was particularly interesting. Whereas a rogue sometimes has interesting choices to make regarding which poisons to use, the only real choice a hunter had was to use slightly more or less expensive ammo, which wasn't much of a choice at all. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

New Warcraft Fan Art
The Blizzard Fan Art Section has been updated with five new pieces of fan artwork set within the Warcraft universe.


This article was originally published in forum thread: PTR Build Release, Season 10 Arena Weapons Preview, Blue Posts, Fan Art started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 102 Comments
  1. Coffay's Avatar
    Wtf... The bow is vile! Looks like it belongs in leveling zones in WotLK! Season 9 bow looked awesome, this is a complete downgrade in looks!
  1. Kuja's Avatar
    Wish they used same amount of time making these as they spent making Brutal Gladiator gear. Those are still one of the best looking PVP items I've seen All have the same theme too. These look like they've been picked from random leveling zones.
  1. Shawaam's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by furydeath View Post
    It's pvp when was the last time you where in a BG or arena going ooo that guy who killing me sure has a nice looking weapon!!!
    I don't care what my opononent has, I just want to have a goodlooking weapon myself.
  1. mmoc49efe580e8's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by phai View Post
    No views of the PvP Armor Sets yet?
    do we really want to see them? bearing in mind there hasn't been decent looking gear since S3
    Its clear from this that blizzard has seperate designers for pvp stuff, despite what they say because the pve gear/weapons were in a different league (even if they werent to most peoples taste) to this stuff.
  1. lilbuddhaman's Avatar
    It's true we don't have infinite resources and that's been true since day one of World of Warcraft. That hasn't changed. I see it come up time and time again that the "good" devs have moved to the new project, but that too isn't true in the way people think it is and is insulting and dismissive to the guys (and gals) who have been on the team for years. The people working on World of Warcraft are people who have been here for years or are still being guided by those who have been here for years. The people who "left" WoW haven't really left either. They are here at the studio lending their ears and thoughts to those still working on World of Warcraft. They haven't washed their hands of the game and the company hasn't washed their hands either.
    translation: The good devs are working on other projects.
  1. thunderdragon2's Avatar
    still no teir set stats?
  1. Freese's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by lilbuddhaman View Post
    translation: The good devs are working on other projects.
    That's not what that post translates to at all. lol
  1. Cairm's Avatar
    Like people alreayd said, these 2-h looks like giant 1-h. :S
  1. wiIdi's Avatar
    Adding more PvP content
    In general, while we could add more Battlegrounds and Arenas we risk thinning out the queue for all Battlegrounds and Arenas.
    the amount of bgs and arenas has almost no effect on queue times
  1. molinator's Avatar
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    Adding more PvP content
    We've actually touched on this topic in the past. In general, while we could add more Battlegrounds and Arenas we risk thinning out the queue for all Battlegrounds and Arenas. We're not against the idea of adding more, but it's a matter of deciding the how and the when of doing so.
    ...How in the hell does adding more arena maps thin out the Arena queues when they are chosen absolutely randomly?

    And how long would it honestly take to generate one new arena map for this expansion when entire raids, zones and the like have been made?

    You could just carbon copy Nagrand but put in a different configuration of pillars and it would at least give us variety.
  1. Bahska's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by wiIdi View Post
    the amount of bgs and arenas has almost no effect on queue times
    ...How in the hell does adding more arena maps thin out the Arena queues when they are chosen absolutely randomly?

    And how long would it honestly take to generate one new arena map for this expansion when entire raids, zones and the like have been made?

    You could just carbon copy Nagrand but put in a different configuration of pillars and it would at least give us variety.
    Math is hard, for example you have 4 BG's and 100k people that's 25k people per BG, add 4 more BG's now all the sudden you have 12.5k people per BG. Point is it does exactly what he states thins out the potential number of People in the Queues which will in turn affect queue times.
    Doesn't matter if it's chosen at random there's still a certain total amount of people queuing for each BG, the more BG's you add the lower that total amount of players per BG is. (Same point for arenas)
  1. Psii's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Freese View Post
    That's not what that post translates to at all. lol
    Sounds pretty accurate to me.
    And with all the evidence they keep shitting out on us with insane patch time, lackluster content etc, how can you believe otherwise?
  1. F-Minus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by buggerlugs View Post
    pve got the best looking stuff again :/
    It's a PvE game first and foremost, which should be obvious with every patch, which are almost exclusively PvE oriented (content wise) and PvP balance changes. Once every bazillion years you maybe get a new arena/battleground added through a patch, but that's it - and of course new PvP tier with every PvE tier increase but that is a must not a choice .
  1. Bahska's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by lilbuddhaman View Post
    translation: The good devs are working on other projects.
    Taking thing's out of context to try in prove your point? If you read the whole post it says the total opposite, but read what you like i guess......

    Sounds pretty accurate to me.
    And with all the evidence they keep shitting out on us with insane patch time, lackluster content etc, how can you believe otherwise?
    The end of Wrath - the one boss crap dungeon we got that i can't even remember the name of was 13 months, cataclysm - 4.1 was maybe 4 months and 4.1 - 4.2 is 2-3 months seems like shorter patch time to me.
    The amount of content is a whole separate story, Whats to little for you might be just enough for someone else.

    What they want to do is give you the same amount but in a shorter time period just like Rift, Yes rift does this faster but some of it is utter garbage.

    I would be more than happy to wait a extra month - 3 months or so and get a raid/questline's/new zone then wait 1 month and get a silly event that's broken an pretty much pointless after the first day.
  1. molinator's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Bahska View Post
    Math is hard
    You seem to misunderstand how the arena queue system works.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bahska View Post
    ...for example you have 4 BG's and 100k people that's 25k people per BG, add 4 more BG's now all the sudden you have 12.5k people per BG. [...] (Same point for arenas)
    When you join the arena queue, you are placed into a pool of potential candidates for the matchmaking system.

    As soon as the matchmaking system finds rating-appropriate opponents, it matches them and puts them into the Arena.

    "the Arena" has no map identity until the participants are decided.
  1. omghesbalance's Avatar
    "Grindy" leveling and improving old content


    I don't know how anyone could think that about leveling.. They have added soo many new quest to leveling and many of them are fun and involve vehicals and other means of doing thats that keep it from feeling "grindy". The only time I would think leveling gets a "Grindy" feel is from about 58-68 in outlands. But the good thing about outlands is you can pick up like 8+ quests at a time and go out and just do them all unlike in cata i feel you get like 1-2 quests at a time.
  1. Bahska's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by molinator View Post
    You seem to misunderstand how the arena queue system works.

    When you join the arena queue, you are placed into a pool of potential candidates for the matchmaking system.

    As soon as the matchmaking system finds rating-appropriate opponents, it matches them and puts them into the Arena.

    "the Arena" has no map identity until the participants are decided.
    I take back the (Same for arena's part) cause your right arena's are a different beast then BG's.
  1. F-Minus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Bahska View Post
    Taking thing's out of context to try in prove your point? If you read the whole post it says the total opposite, but read what you like i guess......



    The end of Wrath - the one boss crap dungeon we got that i can't even remember the name of was 13 months, cataclysm - 4.1 was maybe 4 months and 4.1 - 4.2 is 2-3 months seems like shorter patch time to me.
    The amount of content is a whole separate story, Whats to little for you might be just enough for someone else.

    What they want to do is give you the same amount but in a shorter time period just like Rift, Yes rift does this faster but some of it is utter garbage.

    I would be more than happy to wait a extra month - 3 months or so and get a raid/questline's/new zone then wait 1 month and get a silly event that's broken an pretty much pointless after the first day.
    Dude it's been almost 7 months without new raid content, I don't call that fast - sorry, I'm bored as fuck. To begin with Cataclysm had virtually no end-game aside for the 2 raid instances (one with 4 bosses + 1 heroic only and one with 6 bosses) and 1 joke raid instance and the content now is stale as stale piss could get.
  1. Moneybagz's Avatar
    The artwork is garbage. Same old, same old...chibi junk. *equips flame shield*

    Looking forward to the patch though.
  1. mmoc2deaf98286's Avatar
    Are they retarded or what?

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