Patch 4.2 - PTR Build 14265 Tagged as Release
If you spend time on test realms you might have noticed that the latest PTR build is tagged as "Release". It means it's time to stockpile the gummy bears and get ready for the Firelands, the patch will definitely hit the live servers soon. (Most likely June 21st)



Arena Season 10 Weapons - Models Preview
With the recent announcement of how Season 10 weapons will work in Season 10, it's time for a preview of the weapon models! For the stats, feel free to check the two links below.



Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Player vs. Player
Gladiator Weapons
  • Season 10 Conquest Point weapons will only be purchasable once a required minimum sum of Conquest Points has been reached during the current season. For example, Ruthless Gladiator's Pike costs 3400 Conquest Points to purchase. However, players must first earn a total of 11650 Conquest Points during Season 10 before they are able to purchase it.
  • Season 9 Honor Point weapons will only be purchasable once a required minimum sum of Honor Points has been reached during the current season. For example, Vicious Gladiator's Pike costs 3400 Honor Points to purchase. However, players must first earn a total of 18500 Honor Points during Season 10 before they are able to purchase it.
  • Once the minimum sum of points required to purchase weapons is reached, all available weapons can be purchased for their listed costs. The point requirement is not reset once a purchase is made.
  • Weapon tooltips from the vendor will let players know how many more Conquest or Honor Points must be earned in the current season before the item can be purchased.


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Axe_2h_PVP410_C_01


Bow_1h_PVP410_C_01


Bow_2H_Crossbow_PVP410_C_01


Knife_1h_PVP410_C_01


Knife_1H_PVP410_C_02


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Mace_2H_PVP410_C_01


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Polearm_2h_PVP410_C_01


Shield_PVP410_C_01


Shield_PVP410_C_02


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Staff_2h_PVP410_C_01_Horde


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Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Adding more PvP content
We've actually touched on this topic in the past. In general, while we could add more Battlegrounds and Arenas we risk thinning out the queue for all Battlegrounds and Arenas. We're not against the idea of adding more, but it's a matter of deciding the how and the when of doing so.

We could compare the content between PvP and PvE, but it's not exactly an equal comparison given that the styles of play are different as are the end goals.

Just as an FYI, we are putting the Ring of Valor back in again in 4.2, which (while not new) will at least add back in a bit more variety to Arena queue.

Also of note, we are implementing a new War Games interface (which you can see on the PTR) which should make it easier for people to play skirmish type matches against people either in the Battlegrounds or Arenas. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

War Games
We've actually had the War Games in since last December. The only issue was that it required that you knew it existed and used the right game commands to get it rolling. We've now shined it up and added a great new easy to use interface into the patch so that you can start challenging other groups. Just keep in mind, there's no rewards available (including HKs) for taking part in these, but they can be very fun. It's also a great way to hold your own in-game event if you wanted. (Remember when people would meet up at Gurubashi?) (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Feedback and changes to the community
No, I don't. I just think that people have concerns (of which we're aware of) and we're doing what we can to address what we can as we go.

As for having someone else speak, we've been talking and will continue to talk. Just recently Dave Kosak gave some insight on the new quest hubs. (On the blog.) Greg Street continues to share his own insights there as well. No matter your personal thoughts or feelings about what they have to say, they care deeply for the game and community.

While some may have concerns over whether their questions in the Q&As are being answered or not, we are talking there as well. We're here in the forums responding to what we can.

It's true we don't have infinite resources and that's been true since day one of World of Warcraft. That hasn't changed. I see it come up time and time again that the "good" devs have moved to the new project, but that too isn't true in the way people think it is and is insulting and dismissive to the guys (and gals) who have been on the team for years. The people working on World of Warcraft are people who have been here for years or are still being guided by those who have been here for years. The people who "left" WoW haven't really left either. They are here at the studio lending their ears and thoughts to those still working on World of Warcraft. They haven't washed their hands of the game and the company hasn't washed their hands either.

We know we aren't always going to agree on a direction. We know we can make mistakes or not anticipate every possible outcome, but there is no way I'm going to tell you that we don't care, or that the developers don't care or that we are insular from the concerns being voiced.

We are and continue to be passionate about the game and about the community. We're never going to give everyone their perfect answer, but that isn't going to stop us from trying to meet and exceed expectations where we can. We aren't beat or beaten but can understand how easy it is to buy into that idea with so many people repeating the thought. Sometimes it's hard to be positive when you only see the negative, but the positive is still there and we refuse to lay down and go with the negative flow of thought. As any game "ages" it is so easy to forget the good and the "polish" and start picking at what you see as flaws. It's also easy to take for granted all the things that are added in because they make so much sense. Eventually you forget that it was ever new to begin with because it feels like it was always there.

Again, we're totally open to constructive feedback. We're not deaf to it. We just may not react immediately or have the answer you want. It's just not always possible to. That doesn't mean we didn't hear it or think about it on one level or another and it doesn't mean that we are going to suddenly stop listening because we don't like what someone has to say. We're just asking that the dialogue stay open, honest, and most importantly constructive. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

"Grindy" leveling and improving old content
While I wouldn't say that leveling from 1-79 is totally "grindy" (I actually had and continue to have a lot of fun running through those zones), I can definitely see your argument. I mean, a lot of current dungeon mechanics are fun, right? They make you analyze the world around you and adapt changing scenarios, sort of like a puzzle. At first glance, having that kind of gameplay accompany you all the way from lower level quest zones to end-game dungeon content seems like it'd be amazing. But that's just at first glance. There's a lot to be said for keeping the leveling process as seamless and straightforward as possible.

For a lot of players, the goal of World of Warcraft is to meet some benchmark, things like leveling up, getting gear, increasing their character's potency, and/or defeating end-game raid content. While questing may be enjoyable activity in its own right for some (like you!), there's definitely a portion of the population where it's really more of a means to end -- a way of achieving those other goals more quickly or with greater efficiency -- and that's an important fact for us to keep in mind.

It's not that quests aren't important; on the contrary, they're a critical part of the game, and we'll continue to work towards making them even more epic and fun. It's just that if we make quests too challenging or too complicated, especially during the leveling process, we run the risk of creating situations where players might become frustrated and feel like they're being forced into a style of gameplay that isn't exactly their cup of PvE.

Now, that doesn't mean there isn't some sort of balance that can be struck, where we're able to create quests that evoke the fun of dungeon encounters, but never really reach that point where they become tedious or difficult (we totally hear your feedback on that). It's a matter of appealing to as many players as possible and making sure that they're engaged, but not overwhelmed with over-the-top challenge as they level up -- which can be tricky, especially when you have such a wide variety of playstyles and opinions to consider.

Even so, incorporating more dynamic mechanics into questing and using quests as a teaching method is something we'd like to do for future content. Whether or not we should invest the time and resources into revamping existing content, though...well, that's something that we'd have to weigh very carefully, as it would require us to focus our attention away from creating new things. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Rogue (Forums / Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)
Poison Management
If I've forgotten to buy enough poisons to see me through a raid or dungeon, or failed to pay attention to poison durations and seize the occasional moment to re-apply my poisons, then those are issues I can easily resolve by being slightly more mindful.

At worst, glyphed poisons apply very quickly, and it's possible to re-apply them in a non-clutch fight if you have them in your bags. It's not even close to ideal, but it's possible.

Why does it make sense for Hunters to no longer have physical ammunition for their bows and guns it's just MYSTERIOUSLY provided to them but Rogues' poisons must be bought from a specific vendor and then applied to weapons once an hour?
Well, maybe I can shed some light on the mystery then, or at least, our thought process.

Poisons are important to the rogue class and there's no doubt of that. There's still little or no comparison to be made between the use of poison (which amounts to an important buff) vs. ammunition, without which the hunter class was almost totally ineffective. Running out of poisons means a performance hit, but it doesn't mean that performance stops. Running out of ammo meant that a hunter could no longer use most class abilities or perform at anything resembling a meaningful level. It's relatively easy to remain well stocked with a selection of poisons. It required slot after slot of inventory filled to the brim with ammo to keep a hunter running consistently.

Ultimately, ammunition wasn't a mechanic that we felt was particularly interesting. Whereas a rogue sometimes has interesting choices to make regarding which poisons to use, the only real choice a hunter had was to use slightly more or less expensive ammo, which wasn't much of a choice at all. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

New Warcraft Fan Art
The Blizzard Fan Art Section has been updated with five new pieces of fan artwork set within the Warcraft universe.


This article was originally published in forum thread: PTR Build Release, Season 10 Arena Weapons Preview, Blue Posts, Fan Art started by Boubouille View original post
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  1. Winterstrife's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Cocainetruck View Post
    All the PvP fags here make me sick.
    Fix'd.

    OT: The weapons looks awesome... if its still WotLK.
  1. k1037's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by fangless View Post
    Blizzard should just stop supporting their game. No one appreciates ANYTHING they do, they just complain. Next patch could include 3 new BGs, 3 new raids, and expand us to level 90, and someone somewhere would complain about something.
    Seriously? I'd say billions of dollars a year is ample appreciation.

    4.1 and 4.2 combined = 2 recycled dungeons, a 7-boss raid tier, and a 2-month grindfest daily hub completely lacking unique/new quests. If that isn't a legit reason to complain, what is?

    Seriously, what would it take for the fanboys to admit that the content is lacking? 10 months between raids? A 4-boss tier? How about when they (you know it's coming) recycle AQ as well? What if they cancel WotA like they did Abyssal Maw, and go straight to Deathwing for the third/final raid? Will they finally admit that the complaints are legit then? I'm betting not. I'm betting we'll continue to see arguments exactly like this.
  1. Freese's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by k1037 View Post
    Seriously? I'd say billions of dollars a year is ample appreciation.

    4.1 and 4.2 combined = 2 recycled dungeons, a 7-boss raid tier, and a 2-month grindfest daily hub completely lacking unique/new quests. If that isn't a legit reason to complain, what is?

    Seriously, what would it take for the fanboys to admit that the content is lacking? 10 months between raids? A 4-boss tier? How about when they (you know it's coming) recycle AQ as well? What if they cancel WotA like they did Abyssal Maw, and go straight to Deathwing for the third/final raid? Will they finally admit that the complaints are legit then? I'm betting not. I'm betting we'll continue to see arguments exactly like this.
    I'm still enjoying this raid tier. We are 12/13 and working on Heroic AC at the moment. The hard mode fights are some of the most unique and challenging things that Blizzard has put in the game. I feel sorry for you if you have not experienced ALL of them.
  1. Glomp's Avatar
    Just noticed it's patch 420..... sweeeeet
  1. Thoelle's Avatar
    ermh sorry to ruin this for some of u guys but cmon... That 1-handed looks like a dick. no offence
  1. Zechs-cenarius's Avatar
    They clearly dont play assassination rogues. Not as a performance inhibitor my ass. Turn it like a shaman weapon enhancement or bust!
  1. lilbuddhaman's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Bahska View Post
    Taking thing's out of context to try in prove your point? If you read the whole post it says the total opposite, but read what you like i guess......
    Its called reading through the bullshit.

    It's true we don't have infinite resources and that's been true since day one of World of Warcraft. That hasn't changed.
    Yes, this is true. ANY person/business can say this. Its a universal statement about an impossibility of having an infinite of anything. The reality is that WoW alone pulls in $1 billion a year and if the funds were allotted, they would *effectively* have unlimited resources.
    I see it come up time and time again that the "good" devs have moved to the new project, but that too isn't true in the way people think it is and is insulting and dismissive to the guys (and gals) who have been on the team for years.
    Using defensive language to imply that the statement isn't true, while not denying it. Yes, there are people that have been working on the game for "years". 2-3 years. There are at best a handful of people from the original or even the TBC team left.
    The people working on World of Warcraft are people who have been here for years or are still being guided by those who have been here for years.
    This is them admitting that the entire old team isn't there (which we know, and is understandable), but ALSO that the remaining team is made up of that handful of experienced 2-3yr group who are in charge of doling out the work to people who are new to the design/build of the game. What they are saying in a giant string of words is that the majority of the real work on this game is done by people with little to no experience/dedication to WoW, directed by people who have only been with the game's support for a few years.
    The people who "left" WoW haven't really left either. They are here at the studio lending their ears and thoughts to those still working on World of Warcraft. They haven't washed their hands of the game and the company hasn't washed their hands either.
    Lending ears and thoughts does not equal actually working on the game. This amounts to one of the noobies still working on WoW being able to get and walk over to the desk of one of the vets and asking "hey can you remind me what the lore of so and so was back in vanilla ?" or "Hey what texture did you use for the Krol Blade?". The vets aren't investing large amounts of time in WoW, they're merely there to fix loose ends that the newer guys simply don't have knowledge of.


    But hey, you can believe the marketing speak all you want. Double Plus Good !

    p.s. because you probably don't know the reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_book
  1. skylla05's Avatar
    Chibi art makes me want to hurt myself.
  1. Freese's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by lilbuddhaman View Post
    Its called reading through the bullshit.


    Yes, this is true. ANY person/business can say this. Its a universal statement about an impossibility of having an infinite of anything. The reality is that WoW alone pulls in $1 billion a year and if the funds were allotted, they would *effectively* have unlimited resources.

    Using defensive language to imply that the statement isn't true, while not denying it. Yes, there are people that have been working on the game for "years". 2-3 years. There are at best a handful of people from the original or even the TBC team left.

    This is them admitting that the entire old team isn't there (which we know, and is understandable), but ALSO that the remaining team is made up of that handful of experienced 2-3yr group who are in charge of doling out the work to people who are new to the design/build of the game. What they are saying in a giant string of words is that the majority of the real work on this game is done by people with little to no experience/dedication to WoW, directed by people who have only been with the game's support for a few years.

    Lending ears and thoughts does not equal actually working on the game. This amounts to one of the noobies still working on WoW being able to get and walk over to the desk of one of the vets and asking "hey can you remind me what the lore of so and so was back in vanilla ?" or "Hey what texture did you use for the Krol Blade?". The vets aren't investing large amounts of time in WoW, they're merely there to fix loose ends that the newer guys simply don't have knowledge of.


    But hey, you can believe the marketing speak all you want. Double Plus Good !

    p.s. because you probably don't know the reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_book
    Is your tin foil hat on tight enough?
  1. Northern Goblin's Avatar
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/pat...tr-patch-notes

    New additions there not listed on here so far. Unholy Might being 20% strength is rather juicy.
  1. Xiun's Avatar
    Can we expect to see pvp armor previews on all the races please?
  1. Korgoth's Avatar
    Why can't they make two handed weapons big like they used to? The art department sucks!
  1. ohshift's Avatar
    Since we are talking about weapon models.
    Is there any news regarding the proc from the staff? I mean, the graphic part. With Shadowmourne, there was the swirling thing, is there something similar in the staff or will be just the regular yellow number everytime it procs?
  1. chrisisvacant's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Winterstrife View Post
    Fix'd.

    OT: The weapons looks awesome... if its still WotLK.

    What's with the usage of "fags"?
  1. Nathiest's Avatar
    Mace_2H_PVP410_C_01 yea but is it big enough?
  1. Curoch's Avatar
    People have said it before, but what the f**k is this sh*t with the PvP weapons? Are you f**king kidding me?
    I just noticed my hateful comment was a bit nondescript.. The change for acquiring PvP weapons, and not the models themselves.
  1. Deadeye23's Avatar
    I thought that killing the lich king would allow all the weapons to be free from the prisons of duct tape... but there must always be a lich king!!!!! But seriously these models are not cataclysm ready. damn the design team putting duct tape all over weapons...
  1. Frozenpt's Avatar
    Ok it might be just me, but the PvP staves look like Kundun Staff from Mu Online.

    http://www.masopciones.com/files/io2...ffofkundun.jpg

    Just another round of weapons that gives us nothing new. Loved the artworks tho
  1. mmoc348563f3d3's Avatar
    "Running out of poisons means a performance hit, but it doesn't mean that performance stops. Running out of ammo meant that a hunter could no longer use most class abilities or perform at anything resembling a meaningful level."

    Are they trying to be funny? A hunter spamming melee attacks would perform better than a rogue without poisons, christ
  1. jshidaka's Avatar
    Patch 4.2 - PTR Build 14277 Tagged again as Test... does this means anything?

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