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New Real ID Party Feature Now Available for Testing
Don't miss today's big news! The New Real ID Party Feature Now Available for Testing



Patch 4.2 Hotfixes - July 14
A couple more of Firelands Raid balancing hotfixes today!
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
July 14

Dungeons & Raids
Baradin Hold
  • The Eye of Occu’thar shared cooldown on Focused Fire has been increased, while eye health has been decreased.

Firelands
  • Ragnaros
    • Molten Elementals can no longer be knocked back while having the Molten Power buff. Molten Elemental move speed has also been decreased by 15% on Heroic difficulty. These adjustments will require a realm restart to take effect.
  • Rhyolith
    • Concussive Stomp damage has been increased on Heroic difficulty.
    • Eruption now increases fire damage taken by 5% per stack, down from 10%.
    • The Eruption debuff is now cleared when transitioning into phase 2 of the fight.
  • Shannox
    • Successful attacks on Rageface will now always be critical strikes while he is channeling Face Rage.
    • Players on the legendary quest Delegation should now be able to get the Dull Emberstone Focus charge off of Shannox’s spear more easily, so long as it’s placed within 50 yards of the spear.

Quests & Creatures
Hyjal Regrowth & Molten Front
  • Players should no longer experience performance issues when the Fire Hawk Egg Carry Ping spell is cast while on the quest Peaked Interest.

Nexus (A Legendary Engagement)
  • Shaman Grounding Totems now properly redirect Thyrinar's primary Twilight Blast ability.

Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
"Incentive to explore older raids in the future"
Besides, there should be some added incentive to explore those older raids in the future anyway. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Valor Points
That's a significant part of the thought process, yes. Also, Valor Points are intended to reward top quality items, and we don't think that they should be trivial to obtain in any significant numbers. Allowing them to persist in older content once new raids are added would defeat that purposes. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Ask the Devs #11
Ask the Devs #11 answers are currently scheduled to be posted tomorrow, Friday the 15th. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Real ID Party as a "Premium" feature
I said this as a response on the blog and I'll post it here as well:

We greatly appreciate constructive feedback about this, but as we mention in the FAQ above we'll have information about a cost for premium services at a future point in time. For now, all anyone is able to do is "guess" at what this could mean. Let's focus on testing for now and avoid supposition about any sort of cost at this point in time. It's too easy for people to get involved in hearsay that is inaccurate or misleading.

We know people have concerns over this and get a bit itchy about the word "premium", but for now the answer we can give is the one in the FAQ. Your constructive feedback though is helpful in the testing of the feature and will help us make sure it's serving the community in the best possible way. What we want to avoid is people getting ahead of themselves and guessing at prices or spreading misinformation or rumor. We want this to be successful. We want the community to find value in it being available to them.

This is just one of several ways in which people can get together with their friends whether that includes them relocating realms and factions or not. It's simply an additional choice that will hopefully make your time in the game more enjoyable for you and your friends. It's not any more sinister than that. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Real ID Party cost
In other words, we have not announced an associated cost with this at this point in time and it's free for testing currently. Anything beyond this is merely conjecture on people's parts. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Leading a Real ID Party / Dungeon Finder
It should be restricted to you (as the party starter) as the primary Real ID holder and passing the group lead should not allow the other person to invite additional RID people of their own. That's my understanding of it and why we updated that question a bit to make it more clear. Now, should you find that it's working otherwise, I'd love to hear of it.

Essentially, you as the originator of the group have Real ID. You have friend A on one realm and friend B on another but you're RID friends with both (they would need to have RID enabled too), even if they don't know each other, you can invite them because YOU are RID friends with them both. You can then invite additional people from your own realm (if you don't have any other RID friends to fill it in with) and go into the dungeon, or you can choose to enter the Dungeon Finder and let it do the work of filling in the rest of the group.

This is my current understanding and it should be functioning this way. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Arena / Battlegrounds / Raid / Cross-Faction RealID Grouping
This is as of yet to be determined, much like the requests for Real ID Party for Battlegrounds, Arenas or Raids. There are a lot of technical limitations to consider and try to work within. We'll keep everyone informed should any of these come to pass as something we plan to add as a part of the feature. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

RealID Party and multiple WoW licenses on the same Battle.net account
There's a known issue that doesn't allow the feature to be used at all if someone is logged into multiple World of Warcraft licenses on the same Battle.net account. It has nothing to do with inviting yourself, multiboxing, etc.

It's a bug, and we are aware. :) (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Priest (Forums / Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)
Divine Aegis using the Power Word: Shield Animation
Divine Aegis using the Power Word: Shield animation is just temporary. The problem with the old animation was that Divine Aegis is used so much it caused for a bit too crazy of a light show. We love having awesome spell effects, but they can easily be overwhelming in a dungeon or raid situation with boss and player spell effects firing off like mad.

We plan to revise the Divine Aegis spell effect in an upcoming patch. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blizzard Art Gallery Update
The World of Warcraft Cataclysm and Wrath of the Lich King Art galleries have been updated with four pieces representing the Warcraft universe.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Patch 4.2 Hotfixes - July 14, Blue Posts, Artworks started by Boubouille View original post
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  1. WingsofLiberty's Avatar
    Priest (Forums / Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)Divine Aegis using the Power Word: Shield AnimationDivine Aegis using the Power Word: Shield animation is just temporary. The problem with the old animation was that Divine Aegis is used so much it caused for a bit too crazy of a light show. We love having awesome spell effects, but they can easily be overwhelming in a dungeon or raid situation with boss and player spell effects firing off like mad.We plan to revise the Divine Aegis spell effect in an upcoming patch. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
    this is why blizzard is so shite
  1. Yasuda's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Calldrick View Post
    I am very nervous about premium content...am I not premium? I pay money to play the game after I paid for the game itself...if that is not premium I don't know what is.
    I agree. This is most definitely a feature that should just be added in for free. Especially when one considers how little work Blizzard has done for this expansion compared to the other two, I just don't see how they think most of us would want to pay for an extra little LFD tool.

    If WoW was a free-to-play MMO then sure, I could see them doing this. But with how much cash they rake in on a monthly basis from WoW-related paraphernalia alone? Not even counting subscription fees, but people buying the game+ expansions, comics, novels, mounts, pets, dolls, figures, clothing, posters, trading card game, and whatever the hell else has the WoW logo slapped onto it. It's just... disappointing.
  1. Wartide_ysera's Avatar
    Left wow after this news, it wasn't the real deal but it was the last drop, the game was feeling old and boring and after premium services im out, everyone know premium services are the end of mmos.

    Few weeks ago I was looking at all my wow boxes and felt like, jeez I bought all these games and don't really have them, and even if I paid for it again I wouldn't have the entire thing because of premium services... it sounds so bad...
  1. Kogarashi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Wartide_ysera View Post
    Left wow after this news, it wasn't the real deal but it was the last drop, the game was feeling old and boring and after premium services im out, everyone know premium services are the end of mmos.

    Few weeks ago I was looking at all my wow boxes and felt like, jeez I bought all these games and don't really have them, and even if I paid for it again I wouldn't have the entire thing because of premium services... it sounds so bad...
    exactly

    I canceled my sub a while ago and wanted to return for 4.2.
    Therefore i already brought a GTC but i could not bring myself to use it.
    That Blizz is not willing to improve there game without nickel and dimeing everything really puts me off .
  1. BeerWolf's Avatar
    Saw the nerf to BH's new boss a mile away... PUGs for it are just PURE FAIL atm when it comes to the eye phase...
  1. egeszsegere's Avatar
    nice hotfix/nerf on rhyolith
  1. Zhakkal's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Calldrick View Post
    I am very nervous about premium content...am I not premium? I pay money to play the game after I paid for the game itself...if that is not premium I don't know what is.
    This. A thousand times this. Premium is the worst thing that could ever happen to WoW.
  1. Archermit's Avatar
    nerf to shannox is a joke, it was not hard to get a 30k crit...We had been struggling on rhyolith due to RNG but I am still no thappy about this nerf
  1. tidus93's Avatar
    imo lord rhyolith didnt need to get more nerfs, with proper leg driving it shouldnt be a problem
  1. Rofty's Avatar
    So, they choose to keep pretending that they don't realize what the real issue is with that "premium" crap. It doesn't matter whether it costs 10$ or 0.03$, the problem is that it costs. They have become so cynical, greedy and arrogant, I can hardly believe it.
  1. Jinzil's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Calldrick View Post
    I am very nervous about premium content...am I not premium? I pay money to play the game after I paid for the game itself...if that is not premium I don't know what is.
    It will be more horrendous in the future, but dont let that hear the "bla, you dont need to pay for this i you dont want ist, bla"-people.
  1. ChrizMas's Avatar
    i wonder when new raid dungeons will be premium only...

    "ONLY TODAY! JUST $9.99 FOR THE NEW ICELANDS RAID!"
  1. Rioo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinzil View Post
    It will be more horrendous in the future, but dont let that hear the "bla, you dont need to pay for this i you dont want ist, bla"-people.
    Indeed. If people pay for this then Blizzard will add more premium stuff in the future. These features should always be part of the monthly fee.
  1. lilbuddhaman's Avatar
    People need to take note that no where in the blue post did they deny the service costing money. All marketing speak dodging the question and giving no answer. Just as they responded a few weeks about wow being run by the "b team". All the perfectly plausible theories that have mountains of evidence really ARE true, as much as some people would like to deny it.
  1. Shadock's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrizMas View Post
    i wonder when new raid dungeons will be premium only...

    "ONLY TODAY! JUST $9.99 FOR THE NEW ICELANDS RAID!"
    Thank you for my new sig
  1. Will's Avatar
    The 3rd piece of artwork from the left is amazing
  1. Aerion's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by tidus93 View Post
    imo lord rhyolith didnt need to get more nerfs, with proper leg driving it shouldnt be a problem
    Exactly what I though as well. However Ragnaros "fixes" seem reasonable even though it's mostly targeted to affect overusing of Druids like *cough* Paragon...
  1. Kaeleena's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by BeerWolf View Post
    Saw the nerf to BH's new boss a mile away... PUGs for it are just PURE FAIL atm when it comes to the eye phase...
    It was worse in 10m mode. Last week I attempted to pug this boss figuring it was as easy as the first boss only to find that groups without enough AE dps were unable to kill eyes before getting hit by focus fire. The groups combined AoE DPS was literally below threshold when my Bladestorm was on cooldown.
  1. bluspacecow's Avatar
    I love how mentioning the word "premium" has people leaping to all sorts of conclusions.

    They already have premium services in terms of the mobile AH AFAIK. Look how much they charge for that.

    Also all they've said so far is "aspects of it will be premium based"

    This says to me that certain features of it will be premium based but other features won't be.

    So this says to me they may have a free version and a less commonly used set of features that will be premium based. I have also not seen anything anyway to say this would be an extra service over and above the existing premium services. It could be that those who are also paying for the mobile AH get a limited series of extra perks.
  1. Novaro's Avatar
    Ok I would like to say this Premium content for a pay to play mmo is crazy and companies who do it are normally looked down upon. Here is something Russ Brown VP of game Development Trion World said on why rift don't charge for their character transfers:
    RB: Exactly, and what gets people to stay on an mmo is that they are playing with their friends. So let them play with their friends don’t worry about it. Don’t try and make more Money.
    The main problem that people have with some of the premium content is that it says if you want to play with your friends online you better pay for the privilege to play along side them. I think the writing was on the wall for all these services when Blizzard put in character transfer fees which is the biggest joke ever since their is no staff input to implement a transfer unless it breaks.

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