DREAM Paragon 10-Man Ragnaros Kill, Cenarion Hatchling Pet, Blue Posts, Artworks

DREAM Paragon kills Heroic Ragnaros in 10-Man
Since DREAM Paragon still holds the only recorded kill of Ragnaros in heroic mode, it is probably worth reporting that they also killed the 10-Man version as well. Congratulations to them, see their statement below!

After a very deserving break from a tight raiding schedule that we kept for the past few weeks, we went back in to the Firelands. The goal was pretty simple: Check out the fights on 10-man heroic to gauge their relative difficulty compared to 25-mans. There's been so much discussion on various community sites about this topic, saying that 10-mans are "overtuned" and near unkillable and whatnot. Others saying it's the other way around.

After a quick clear of the filler bosses yesterday, we decided to go all out on Ragnaros today. We begun importing our 25-man tactics and had multiple very silly wipes. Once we realized we could just ditch the overly complicated tactics, we made several P4 wipes. Soon afterwards we were able to slay him and get the world first 10-man Ragnaros Heroic kill as well.

All in all, Ragnaros on the 10-man Heroic mode took 32 wipes in total with everything (such as multiple disconnects) included.



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Thrall: Twilight of the Aspects -- Excerpt Two
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Written by New York Times bestselling author Christie Golden, the new novel Thrall: Twilight of the Aspects is now on store shelves. We’re pleased to present a series of three excerpts from the novel for your reading enjoyment.

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Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Druid (Forums / Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)
Feral performance in PvE
That said, we're happy with Feral performance in PvE overall. It we were to nerf Predatory Swiftness, it'd have a minor impact on PvE. Unheeded Warning is both a PvE and PvP problem. The particular mechanics of the trinket keep it disproportionately powerful for Feral druids. Nerfing Berserk would have PvE ramifications, but we'll take steps overall to make sure your dps doesn’t drop in PvE. We do everything we can to ensure we're considering all aspects of gameplay when approaching class balance. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Feral stealth isn't superior to Rogue's
Given that they are exactly the same mechanically, this shouldn't be the case. This has been a particularly pervasive myth that I'd like to lay to rest. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

The fact that this shouldn't be the case, doesn't mean it isn't. Also, saying its a myth, or believing it must be, does not make it so.
You're correct. Merely saying something isn't so, doesn't mean a thing.

Knowing that they're the same ability used by different classes, and knowing that this exact issue has been tested, repeatedly, in response to claims otherwise, does. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Feral Instinct
This is correct, choosing the Feral spec and gaining Feral Instinct merely brings Feral spec Stealth into line with Rogue baseline stealth (whose talents have been rolled into the ability). (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blizzard Art Gallery Update
The World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade Art gallery has been updated with three pieces representing the Warcraft universe.





This article was originally published in forum thread: Paragon 10-Man Ragnaros Kill, Cenarion Hatchling Pet, Blue Posts, Artworks started by Boubouille View original post
Published on 2011-07-23 05:16 AM
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  1. Packers's Avatar
    omg guys no shamans....

    oh yeah no hunters too so they obviously suck too

    no warriors, thwy suck too

    no priests, terrible class obv


    its 10 man stupid shamans of your suprised there isnt one here your stupid, shamans are a pubic hair wprse than other healers OF THAT
  1. Hempz's Avatar
    I love how all the 10 man people get insecure about their raid difficulty when it's really put on display that 10 mans are easier. Look, no matter what you want to say about how many attempts they did and knowing it on 25 makes it easier for 10, the fact is that a guild who has killed it on 25 and on 10 says it's easier on 10. So until the rest of us kill it on both, it's kind of hard for us to have as good of an idea of the difficulty for either tier. And for all the people saying it's easier to do on 25 and then go to 10, well just consider that if you do it on 10 first and then go to 25, it will only get harder as well. Fact remains the same, 10 mans are easier, and they always will be. They added the same loot to 10 as 25 so the casual players (10 mans) could still feel like they were accomplishing something.Kudos to Paragon, let's put this stupid argument to rest.
  1. mmoc0464dfdd98's Avatar
    So far still the best, i check wowprogress every day and what i see? Other guild are much worse, im wondering who will be next
  1. Agilent's Avatar
    that blizzard art is simply stunning..
  1. Mizpah's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by zYN View Post
    Not even close to true. You can do significantly (literally several thousands of) less DPS in the 10-mans and yet meet all the important timings.

    ---------- Post added 2011-07-24 at 04:46 PM ----------


    Have you even done the 25-man heroic Ragnaros? Like, up to P4 maybe? Even that would clue you in on how much harder it is. We're not discrediting anything. Raiding 10-mans is a perfectly legitimate form of raiding. It just happens to be easier and it's in a different bracket because of its size. I have no idea why you post such nonsense.

    What we are discrediting are the completely baseless forum rants about Ragnaros being significantly harder in the 10-man heroic mode, claiming that it's near unkillable and whatnot.
    Unless you bend over backwards, you are not going to get every single buff for a 10 man guild, and if you do, you dont have all the highest dps taking advantage of all those dps boosts. And a prime example on sinestra, you only have two orbs 25m. You also have 2 orbs 10 man, jacking 2 of our 8 people capable of gettings orbs, often 2 dps.
  1. Argroth's Avatar
    Well I never thought Paragon was good for anything (meaningless first kills only proved how much time they spend away from real life accomplishments) but at least their supreme lack of priorities has at least taken down retard 10-man-ers who are foolish enough to think they have it so much harder then real raiders (25-mans)

    25 mans are at the very least as hard as 10 mans if not significantly harder. This may be the only time I say it but "Thanks and congratulations Paragon"
  1. Fujisaw's Avatar
    ok is anyone else going to kill heroic rag i mean its almost been 3 weeks since paragon has killed it and i would like to see there video of it sometime this tier since my guild wont probally kill it. so someone has to kill it
  1. mmoce891427cdc's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoroaster09 View Post
    Where did you get this list of names from?

    Paragons post said they had an MM hunter in their team.
    From their kill screenshot in their website.

    Also, it came to my attention today that Firefly33 did the same job before me, but with hordelinge (another top 10man guild) here in this thread in page 6.
    The results are almost identical.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    The paragons 10 players have a total combined item level of 3781, leading them to have an average of 378.1 per player.
    PARAGON - 378.1 per player.

    Hordlinges 9 players have a total combined item level of 3407, leading them to have an average of 378.6 ( Rounded up from 378.5555555555 ) per player.
    Hordlinge - 378.6 per player.
    Quote Originally Posted by DrBobStat View Post
    Paragon 10man
    Player->Ilvl Equipped

    Ilonie-> 378
    Lappe-> 376
    Lihas-> 377
    Baltha-> 380
    Arx-> 379
    Sejta-> 382
    Synti-> 378
    Rakez-> 382
    Jubeto-> 376
    Lazeil-> 374
    Average: 378.2 ilvl equiped


    Noxa's Players in their majordomo hc kill video
    Player ->Ilvl equipped
    Wendy-> 378
    Thovald -> 375
    wallshok-> 378
    Seife-> 379
    Dexter-> 379
    Yodalana-> 381
    Harpye-> 378
    Lisira-> 374
    Selfi-> 375
    Zumie-> pvp gear equipped

    Excluding Zumie, Noxa's 9 players have 377.4 average ilvl equiped.

    The numbers just speak for themselves....
    The people that killed twice ragnaros hc have just 1 ilvl more than the best -so far- 10man guild....
    Please stop this argument with the heavily overgeared 25man players going in 10man and "stealing" kills.
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