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Diablo 3 Auction House Announced - Spend and Earn Real Life Money!
The Diablo 3 Auction House was announced during last week's press tour and I'm sure that news will be very interesting for most of the readers of this site, because most of us wonder if it will have any effect on the evolution of WoW in the long run.


Diablo 3's Auction House will feature two currencies, the first one will be in-game gold and the 2nd one will be real life money. Yep, you read it right, Diablo 3 will let you buy items with either gold or real life money! It's also worth noting that you will also be able to sell loot for money, and transfer that money outside the game. I guess gold farming just got interesting.

See the screenshots and official FAQ below for more information.


Auction House Bidding - Dollars

Auction House Bidding - Gold

Auction Log - Gold

Auction House Search - Dollars

Auction House Sell - Dollars

Auction House Sell - Gold
 
Auction House Selling - Dollars
 


Diablo 3 Auction House - Overview
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
We’re introducing a powerful auction house system that will provide a safe, fun, and easy-to-use way for players to buy and sell the loot they obtain in the game. Items can be sold and purchased using real-world money or in-game gold.

An Easier Way To Trade
Sure, slaying monsters, demons, and cultists is a surefire way to obtain a ton of random new loot in Diablo III, but with the new auction house feature, it’ll be easier than ever to gear up your character with the exact items you’re looking for. You can also post the items you don’t need for players who are desperately searching for what you’ve got!

Don’t Need It? Put It Up For Auction!
Nearly everything found in the game, including gold, can be exchanged with other players directly or through the auction house system. So say you’re a witch doctor and you’ve just found an incredibly rare, incredibly powerful axe that only barbarians can use. In the previous Diablo games your best option might have been to sell the axe to an in-game vendor, but in Diablo III, you now have the ability to list that axe in the auction house for your fellow barbarian players to bid on. And you know another player will probably appreciate the true value of that axe more than some heartless vendor who’ll likely just melt it down for scrap….

Amazing Search Functionality
The auction house’s "smart search" functionality can automatically sort items in the auction house based on which upgrades would be most beneficial to your character. Also, searching for the best gear for multiple characters on the same Battle.net account can be done all from the same interface without having to log out.

The Choice Is Yours
Use of either the real-money or gold-based auction house is completely optional -- that decision can be made on a per-item basis, and both versions of the auction house are functionally the same. In addition, players have the option to simply sell the items they obtain to in-game vendors for gold. They can also trade items to other players through a direct character-to-character trading system in the game in exchange for gold, other items, or just an overwhelming sense of goodwill.

Players Only
Blizzard does not plan to post items for sale in the auction house. The driving purpose of the auction house is to provide players with a fun additional in-game option for what they do with the items they obtain in the game. Items sold in the auction house will be posted by players and purchased by players.

Safe and Sanctified
The real-money auction house provides players with an easy-to-use, Blizzard-sanctioned way to collect money for items they obtain while playing Diablo III. It also helps protect players from the scams and theft often associated with questionable third-party sites by providing a secure, completely in-game method for purchasing and obtaining the items they want for their characters.

Faster Than A Seven-Sided Strike
Sellers can post items for auction from any of the Diablo III characters on their Battle.net account, or from their shared stash (extra inventory space accessible with any of the characters on their account), without logging out. And after a buyer has won an auction, the item will become immediately available to be equipped and put to good use in the ongoing struggle against the forces of the Burning Hells.

Diablo 3 Auction House - FAQ
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
What is the Diablo III auction house system?
Acquiring epic new gear for your characters has always been a big part of the Diablo experience. Because of this, players have found a number of different ways to trade and otherwise obtain items both within and outside of the game. Many of these methods were inconvenient and either tedious (for example, repeatedly advertising for a desired trade in Battle.net chat channels and waiting for responses) or unsafe (e.g., giving credit card information to third-party trading sites). With Diablo III, we’re introducing a powerful auction house system that will provide a safe, fun, and easy-to-use way for players to buy and sell the loot they find in the game, such as weapons, armor, and runestones. Two different versions of the auction house will be available in Diablo III: one based on in-game gold, which players acquire through their adventures, and one based on real-world currency.

What’s the difference between the gold-based auction house and the currency-based auction house?
The gold-based auction house uses in-game gold for purchases and sales. With the currency-based auction house, players will be able to conduct these transactions using actual currency from an authorized payment method or from funds that have been added to their Battle.net account. Players can choose to participate in whichever version of the auction house they prefer, on a per-transaction basis.

How does the auction house system work?
Players can open the auction house interface from anywhere in the game to make purchases or list items for sale. Items can be sold from the shared stash (storage shared among all the characters on your Battle.net account) or from any individual character’s inventory. When posting the item, the seller picks whether it will be sold in the gold-based auction house or the currency-based auction house. The item is then held by the auction house system until the listing expires or a purchase is made. Items that are not sold are returned to the seller’s shared stash, and items that are sold are delivered to the winning bidder’s shared stash. In either case, the auction house system will deduct a nominal fixed transaction fee from the seller, the amount of which is determined by whether or not the item was sold (see below). For the currency-based auction house, players will have a few different options for how to pay for item purchases and receive funds for item sales, as discussed elsewhere in this FAQ. There may be differences in how this system will work in different regions of the world. We’ll provide further details at a later date.

How is the transaction fee determined?
A nominal fixed transaction fee will be deducted from the seller for each item listed in the auction house. This fee consists of a fixed charge to list the item, which is assessed whether or not the item is successfully sold, and an additional fixed charge that is assessed only if the item is sold. Because the listing portion of the fee is charged even if the item doesn’t sell, it will be in the seller’s interest to list items he or she believes other players will be interested in, and to do so at a competitive price. Specific details related to the transaction fee for the currency-based auction house will vary by region and will be announced at a later date.

Please note that we plan to waive the listing portion of the fee for a limited number of transactions per account. In other words, for these transactions, the seller will only pay a transaction fee if the item is successfully sold, and that fee will not include the listing charge. We’ll have further details on this as well at a later date.

Why are you creating a currency-based version of the auction house?
Our goal with all of our games is to ensure players have a highly enjoyable, rewarding, and secure experience. Acquiring items has always been an important part of the Diablo series, but the previous games have not had a robust, centralized system for facilitating trades, and as a result players have turned to inconvenient and potentially unsafe alternatives, such as third-party real-money-trading organizations. Many of the transactions between players and these organizations led to a poor player experience and countless customer-service issues involving scams and item/account theft, to name a few. To that end, we wanted to create a convenient, powerful, and fully integrated tool to meet the demand of players who wished to purchase or sell items for real-world currency, and who would likely have turned to a less-secure third-party service for this convenience.

How will the currency-based auction house work?
Players will be able to make purchases in the currency-based auction house using a registered form of payment attached to their Battle.net account. As with other popular online-purchase services, players will also have the option to charge up their Battle.net account with a balance of funds that can be drawn from for purchases of any digital product available through Battle.net -- this includes not only auction house items but also things like World of Warcraft subscription time and paid services, to name a few examples. On the flipside, when players sell an item in the currency-based auction house, the proceeds of the sale are deposited into their Battle.net account and can then be used as described above. Note that this process might be different for certain regions; we’ll provide further region-specific details as we get closer to launch.

Can players choose to get cash from currency-based auction house sales, instead of having the proceeds deposited into their Battle.net account?
Yes, as an advanced feature, players will have the option of attaching an account with an approved third-party payment service to their Battle.net account. Once this has been completed, proceeds from the sale of items in the currency-based auction house can be deposited into their third-party payment service account. “Cashing out” would then be handled through the third-party payment service. Note that this process will be subject to applicable fees charged by Blizzard and the third-party payment service. Also, any proceeds from the sale of items in the currency-based auction house that have been deposited into the Battle.net account will not be transferrable to the third-party payment service account. Not all regions will support this advanced feature at launch. Region-specific details, as well as details regarding which third-party payment services will be supported and the fee that Blizzard will charge for the cash-out process, will all be provided at a later date.

Is the currency-based version of the auction house optional?
Yes, the currency-based auction house is available as an option for players who wish to purchase or sell Diablo III items for real money. Players are also able to buy and sell items through the gold-based auction house, and they can trade items with each other as well through direct character-to-character in-game trading.

Why would I want to pay real money to buy or sell in-game items?
Acquiring items has always been a core part of the Diablo series' appeal. With the previous Diablo games, many players have shown a great interest in buying, selling, or exchanging items for their characters using real-world currency, turning to potentially unsafe avenues to accomplish this goal. The currency-based version of the auction house provides players with an easy-to-use, Blizzard-sanctioned way to collect money for items obtained while playing Diablo III. In addition, it helps protect players from scams and disreputable third-party sites by providing a secure, in-game method to search for and purchase items posted by other players that are a perfect fit for their character and play style.

The currency-based auction house is completely optional. Players who aren't interested in paying real money for items will still be able to rely on items they acquire through their own adventures, and they'll also be able to trade with friends and use the full-featured gold-based auction house.

Can I play on a server without a currency-based version of the auction house?
We want to provide a secure, fun environment for our players to purchase and sell in-game items using gold or real money and have no plans to divide the community. Players are free to participate in the gold-based auction house or the currency-based auction house, or to opt out of using any of the auction houses at all, progressing through Diablo III using only the items they obtain through their own adventures or direct trade with other players.

Does Blizzard plan to post weapons, armor, and other such items for sale in the currency-based version of the auction house?
The currency-based auction house is a place for players to purchase or sell items they’ve obtained within the game. Blizzard does not plan to post items that affect gameplay, such as gear or character-enhancing runestones, for sale in the auction house.

Will Blizzard sell anything directly through the auction house?
We don't have any plans at this time to post items for sale in the auction house.

Does the currency-based auction house signify a shift in Blizzard’s business and revenue model?
We’ve always tailored our business models to match what we’ve felt would be most appropriate and effective for each game and in each region, and that’s the case with Diablo III as well. The item-based nature of Diablo gameplay has always lent itself to an active trade-based ecosystem, and a significant part of this trade has been conducted through unsecure third-party organizations. This has led to numerous customer-service and game-experience issues that we’ve needed to account for. Our primary goal with the Diablo III auction house system is for it to serve as the foundation for a player-driven economy that’s safe, fun, and accessible for everyone.

What’s Blizzard’s cut?
As with other online auction sites and real-world auction houses, our fee structure will vary by region. However, we plan to collect a nominal fixed transaction fee for each item listed in the auction house. This fee consists of a fixed charge to list the item, which is assessed whether or not the item is successfully sold, and an additional fixed charge that is assessed only if the item is sold. The listing portion of the fee, which helps encourage sensible listing prices and discourage the mass posting of items that are very low quality or would be of little interest to other players, will be waived for a limited number of transactions per account. For players who opt to have the proceeds of their auction house sales go to their third-party payment service account instead of to their Battle.net account, Blizzard will collect a separate “cash-out” fee. Specific details regarding these fees will be announced at a later date.

Why would I even want to use the gold-based auction house?
We recognize that not all players would prefer or have the means to participate in the currency-based auction house, and it was important to us to provide these players with a full-featured alternative.

Can we buy gold from the currency-based auction house?
Players will be able to buy and sell gold through the currency-based auction house at whatever the current market price is, as established by the player community.

If I no longer need an item I bought in the auction house, can I relist it in the auction house?
Yes. Once you've purchased an item you can do anything with it that you could if you had acquired it through your own adventures, whether that be using it yourself, or, after a cool-down period, trading it to another character or relisting it on either the gold-based or currency-based auction house. In fact, you can generally do any combination of these things -- for example, you can purchase an item in the auction house, use it for a while, and then relist it or trade it to another character. Aside from certain quest items, there will be very few (if any) items that will be “soulbound” to your character and therefore untradable. Please note that the duration of the cool-down period mentioned above will be discussed at a later date.


AUCTION HOUSE FUNCTIONALITY

What items can be traded in Diablo III?
Nearly everything that drops on the ground, including gold, can be traded with other players directly or through the auction house system. Aside from certain quest items, there will be very few (if any) items that will be “soulbound” to your character and therefore untradable. We are also planning to allow players to buy and sell characters in the auction house at some point in the future and will have more details to share on that at a later date.

What is "smart searching"?
When players launch the auction house interface, they’ll be able to select any Diablo III character associated with their Battle.net account. The "smart search" feature will assess which item slots have available upgrades and will sort items available in the auction house based on which upgrades would be most beneficial to the character. You can also search for specific stats to match the requirements of a particular character build.

How does bidding work?
Players will be able to place a current bid as well as a maximum bid if they wish to engage in automatic bidding. In addition, they’ll be able to check the status of their bids on the "Currently Winning" page and the "Outbid" page in the auction house interface.

Can I buyout items that I want to purchase immediately?
Yes, the Diablo III auction houses will support a buyout feature as well as standard bids.

How do I pay for items?
For the gold-based auction house, purchases will be made using in-game gold. For the currency-based auction house, players can make purchases using a registered form of payment attached to their Battle.net account. As with other popular online-purchase services, players will also have the option to charge up their Battle.net account with a balance of funds that can be drawn from for purchasing items in the currency-based auction house. Note that this process might be different for certain regions; we’ll provide further region-specific details as we get closer to launch.

How do I receive the items I’ve won?
After winning an auction, the item will be available to pick up through the built-in auction house interface in the Diablo III client. Players will then be able to immediately send that item to their shared stash (storage shared among all the characters on a Battle.net account) or repost the item in the auction house after a cool-down period. The duration of the cool-down period will be discussed at a later date.

How do I sell items?
From the auction house interface, players will be able to select items from their shared stash or from a specific character's inventory. They will then be able to post items for sale by listing a starting bid and buyout price.

How do I cash out from the currency-based auction house?
As an advanced feature, players will have the option of attaching an account with an approved third-party payment service to their Battle.net account. Once this has been completed, proceeds from the sale of items in the currency-based auction house can be deposited into their third-party payment service account. “Cashing out” would then be handled through the third-party payment service. Note that this process will be subject to applicable fees charged by Blizzard and the third-party payment service. Also, any proceeds from the sale of items in the currency-based auction house that have been deposited into the Battle.net account will not be transferrable to the third-party payment service account. Not all regions will support this advanced feature at launch. Region-specific details, as well as details regarding which third-party payment services will be supported and the fee that Blizzard will charge for the cash-out process, will all be provided at a later date.

Will buying or selling items in the auction house reveal my identity?
No. All player transactions in the gold-based and currency-based auction houses will be anonymous, and neither your real name nor your character name will be revealed to other players.

Will there be a mobile or Web-based auction house?
We're always on the lookout for opportunities to enhance the game experience and keep our community connected to our games through the Web or mobile devices. However, we do not have any plans to share along those lines at this time.

When will this be available for testing?
We'll share more information on our auction house testing plans as we get closer to launch.


REGIONAL AUCTION HOUSE DETAILS

Which regions will have currency-based auction house support?
We plan to roll out the currency-based version of the auction house in as many regions as possible with the launch of Diablo III. In regions where the currency-based auction house will not be available, players will still have access to a gold-based auction house. We'll share more details in the future.

Will there be separate auction houses in each region? Will I be allowed to bid on items from players outside my own region?
Due to various factors, including technology, language, and currency, there will be multiple separate auction houses serving different player communities around the world. We’ll share specific details on how the auction houses will work for each region as we get closer to launch.

If I live in Australia/New Zealand/Southeast Asia, what server will I play Diablo III on?
As with StarCraft II, players who purchase the Australia/New Zealand/Southeast Asia version of Diablo III will have their own regional servers, offering lower latency and more action during peak hours. While we encourage players to play on these servers, we recognize that many have longstanding friendships with North American players and would like to continue playing with them. Because of this, we're again giving Australia/New Zealand/ Southeast Asia gamers access to both regions' servers so they can choose where they'd prefer to play.

How does this impact the items I have purchased in the auction house?
Auction house purchases are bound to the servers in the region in which they're bought. Any items acquired on the Australia/New Zealand/Southeast Asia servers, in-game or otherwise, are bound to those servers and are not transferrable to the North American servers (and vice versa). Please keep this in mind when making purchases in the auction house.

What currencies will be available? What currency will items in the auction house be viewed in? Can players purchase items using local credit cards or bank accounts?
Our goal is to make the auction house experience in each region as seamless as possible for players, and we are currently exploring various currency and payment options to help achieve that goal. We’ll provide further details as we get closer to launch.


AUCTION HOUSE GAMEPLAY ISSUES

Will I be able to use third-party mods to track auction prices?
For a variety of gameplay and security reasons, we will not be supporting bots or mods in Diablo III, and they’ll be expressly prohibited by our terms of use for the game.

Can Hardcore-mode characters use the currency-based auction house?
No. Hardcore characters will only have the option to buy and sell items together with other Hardcore characters via a separate "Hardcore-only" gold-based auction house; they will not be able to use the currency-based auction house. Hardcore mode is designed as an optional experience for players who enjoy the sense of constant peril that comes with the possibility of permanent death for a character. All of a Hardcore character’s items are forever lost upon that character’s death, so to avoid the risk of a player spending real money on items that could then be permanently lost when the character dies, we decided restrict the use of the currency-based auction house in Hardcore mode.

If my character dies in Hardcore mode, will I lose the items that I purchased in the "Hardcore-only" gold-based auction house for that character?
Yes. Again, Hardcore-mode characters will only have access to a "Hardcore-only" gold-based auction house, not the currency-based auction house, and will not be able to trade with non-Hardcore characters. Hardcore is an optional mode designed for players who enjoy playing with the risk of permanently losing their character if the character dies, and that includes the items they acquired with that character.

Can I just buy the most powerful items and breeze through the game?
Items will be level-restricted, meaning your character won't be able to use an item until he or she is at the appropriate level for that item.


AUCTION HOUSE CUSTOMER SUPPORT

What happens if a player does not receive a purchased item?
The auction process is automated, but if a player purchases an item and for some reason does not receive it, he or she will be able to contact our customer service team to look into the issue.

What happens if there is a patch and the item I purchased is altered?
It's important for us to ensure that Diablo III remains balanced and fun for years after launch. To that end, it may be necessary to change stats or alter abilities of items from time to time. It’s very important to note that Blizzard will not be providing refunds or making other accommodations if a purchased item is later altered in a patch. Given this, it's up to players to determine whether they're comfortable purchasing items in the currency-based auction house.

Someone bought an item on my account without my permission. Can I get a refund?
Please note that account sharing will be forbidden in Diablo III's Terms of Use. In cases of compromise, our customer service team will look into the situation and determine the appropriate course of action.

I accidentally lost or dropped an item I just purchased -- can I get a refund?
No. After a purchase is made, players will be responsible for what they do with the item.

How will you address bots or cheaters?
We take cheating very seriously, and we've designed Diablo III and Battle.net to include measures to detect and prevent unfair play. In addition, we will have anti-cheating policies in place and will take action to address any issues as they arise.
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  1. Malygos The Spellweaver's Avatar
    I can only think of one response fitting this situation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ON-7v4qnHP8 Although its really stupid people can pay real money to buy gear to be better then others, its good for those who aren't obsessive to take advantage of those that are to get LODS OF EMONE.
  1. Nosonia's Avatar
    Some people are saying that in game gold will have the same value as real life money while in the game?? You couldn't be more wrong from the truth.

    Real Life Money is not infinite. There is a certain amount on the planet, and there should never be any more.

    In video games, money is created from thin air and appear on mobs that can be triggered to be re spawned and drop more of it.

    With each week that passes, gold will have less and less value till the point where any item worth anything wont be sold for anything other then gold.

    I can prove this because this exists in Warstorm. A web based card game that made its way to facebook. The original non-facebook version had an AH with gold and real money credits... in the end, anything worth anything was sold for money credits.. end of story.
  1. darkensign's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Morslath View Post
    Maybe because the amount of money you have IRL shouldn't affect how powerful you are in-game?
    Shouldn't, but it does. Blizzard have realised, along with other leading game developers that people will always find a way to pay for virtual goods and nothing can stop them.

    And maybe because they're not just legitimizing gold/item farming, but also encouraging players to be farmers and earning money by doing absolutely nothing?
    You can't earn anything by doing nothing. Are you alluding to botting? Botters will be banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Achtalon View Post
    This will hopefully dilute gold sellers/hackers and make them go away, to some extent. The supply>>>>>>demand will drive the price down relatively quickly. Or so I hope, as to the integrity of the game. On the other hand, it would be really fun to get an uber rare powerful item when the game is new and make some money. Did they mention in the post (I selectively skimmed) how loot works in D3? There could be a huge ninja-fest with potential alpha nerds RL suing each other. I'm bringing my popcorn as I watch the drama unfold.
    Loot drops are distributed evenly amongst the players near to the monsters killed (or took part in the kill, I'm not 100% where the distinction lies). Ultimately, when loot drops, it is visible and can only be picked up by one player so there's no insane clickfest to get that legendary item that's potentially worth £50.

    ---------- Post added 2011-08-02 at 03:47 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Takeso89 View Post
    This RMT AH could go wrong in SO MANY WAYS, I can't even count them...
    Please try. I'm yet to see any realistic scenarios where the $AH could actually damage the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearGX View Post
    Worst thing I have ever seen in gaming history. Think of the hardest slap in the face you could ever receive, then add a punch to the gut and a kick in the nuts.
    Yet another poster forecasting doom and gloom for Diablo 3 based on nothing. The basis for your conclusion is not as obvious or as solid as you might think. Explain your train of thought.
  1. Llunai's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by MarizzaDraenor View Post
    p2p games you accept/like p2p games you ll get in the future
    This.

    This is going out to everybody who bought That Retarded Horse, all of those idiotic $10 pixel pets and those who server transfer/race change/faction change every few weeks.
  1. Weenter09's Avatar
    all this QQ is pointless. You, YOU the gamer gets to make money of your hard work! how does this piss everyone off? one comment was about how he was thinking about buying the game for 60 dollars as that was almost too much.. but yet after a few months of playing u can easily pay the full 60 back as a casual gamer. this will not at all destroy the economy of the game but in my mind increase what already happens in WoW. enough ppl bot/farm/blah blah blah already and this is just one way to prevent this. This will no way advance a player a step above the competition. Hell im going to actually pay for other shit selling items i work for and dont need. possibly pay for lunch the next day for selling soj just my 7 cents
  1. darkensign's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nosonia View Post
    Some people are saying that in game gold will have the same value as real life money while in the game?? You couldn't be more wrong from the truth.

    Real Life Money is not infinite. There is a certain amount on the planet, and there should never be any more.

    In video games, money is created from thin air and appear on mobs that can be triggered to be re spawned and drop more of it.

    With each week that passes, gold will have less and less value till the point where any item worth anything wont be sold for anything other then gold.
    Unless there are enough gold sinks to ensure that gold will always retain its value.
  1. Buzzinjoe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Arpagio View Post
    Oh well... there goes my interest in this game. Fairwell Blizzard, Lucasarts/Bioware here I come.
    uhm, different type of game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggiej View Post
    Well the samething could be said for D3, Why would anyone do the content when they could sit at an AH with there paypal open all day?
    Do you honestly think amazing gear is gonna drop at such a rate that people will be able to sell it off a lot instead of using it for their own char? Have you played D2?
  1. Bizerk's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by grothezk View Post
    I can see it now:

    *Purple item drops*
    player 1: OMG GUYS MAY I NEED IT?
    player 2: wtf, no?
    player 3: no
    player 4: lol no way champ.
    player 1: BUT PLEASE GAIS, I JUST GOT KICKED FROM JOB AND I COULD USE THE CASH TO PAY THE BILLS
    player 2: dude, i need the cash to to buy a wedding ring
    player 3: I need more ramen
    player 4: I...I never finished university guys. Q.Q
    player 1: OMG YOU PPL THIS IS WHY AMERICA IS AS IT IS..IOM BROKE AND NOONE WANTS TO HELP.../nerdrage
    Items drop separately for each player, which means everyone gets different items that only they will be able to pick up. The AH will have absolutely no bearing on this.
  1. Buzzinjoe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ringkeeper View Post
    I bet my WoW account (with no active subscription on it XD ) , that this will be implemented in WoW if it is (and it will be) successfull in Diablo 3 .
    The sky is falling is it?
  1. pVVn3c|'s Avatar
    As long as I can get everything the people who spend money can get without spending any money I don't care. Maybe make some money on the side while playing the game sounds good to me.
  1. Buzzinjoe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nebthet View Post
    And your point is? Now having played Diablo 2 makes you cool or gives you more rights?
    The thing is, this crap is making people who haven't played Diablo 2 lose interest in getting to even try this new D3, like happened to me.
    Because it just sounds horribly cheap and saddens me.
    The point is that this has been going on for D2 for years. You always had people running around with bought items from 3rd parties. The only difference now is that it's in-game and it's safe.

    The amount of hacked D2 account was baffling.

    So yeah you not having played D2 can just stay out of this. It doesn't change ANYTHING in-game.
  1. darkensign's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ringkeeper View Post
    I bet my WoW account (with no active subscription on it XD ) , that this will be implemented in WoW if it is (and it will be) successfull in Diablo 3 .
    This will not make it into WoW, not as an item trading system anyway. You might get something a little more reminiscent of CCP's PLEX system though where players may trade game time for in-game gold with each other. Hell, they might even be able to sell gold for profit.
  1. quras's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by darkensign View Post
    Unless there are enough gold sinks to ensure that gold will always retain its value.
    Hopes and dreams and piss in the wind.

    They couldn't do it in WOW. It wont happen in D3.
  1. hakujinbakasama's Avatar
    After 80+ pages, I'm sure someone has either stated it already or alluded to it in one way or another, but people need to actually put up or shut up.

    I'd like to know how many people actually played D2 when it was relative. I'd also like to know why or how these people think this feature is going to ruin the game. This isn't WoW people. This isn't a "raid endgame" mmo. Where are you really finding some substance which is making you feel or think this is some how limiting the games value.

    Frankly, people need to realize that D2 websites still exist today and are still selling accounts and items. Blizzard isn't wrong when they say the player base wanted it, because they have overly shown that they do. Never the less, despite how much I can't stand him, Athene pointed out something most people either don't know or forgot, the guy who created D2 forums made a ton of money with his "forum gold" creation. Where were are your delicious tears then? Are you still crying and outraged about the status of D2? Because if you aren't as flamboyant about that game currently, then you should go back to your moms basement on this subject too.

    If you bother to read all of the Q&A there is a lot of information which makes a great deal of sense. And at least blizzard is doing something proactive. Hell, even their reason for implementing a nominal fee for even posting an option makes a lot of sense if you have 1/4 of your brain working. Jesus, are you really complaining that someone who you'll probably never play with, whos purchase has zero effect on your game, has zero effect on your world, and has zero effect on your experience has purchased an item which you could actually sell to said person if you choose to instead? Again, THIS ISN"T WOW.

    I keep thinking that the people whining about this easily don't have a clue because if they spent any time on D2 they'd would have realized from the start that this is an easy and non earth shattering decision.

    I mean really? I look at it like this, if Paragon isn't ruining wow for you then this isn't going to either. If you haven't quit WoW already due to Honor selling, Arena selling, BoE selling, Raid spot selling, Gold farming, and or anything else...... SHUT UP. You're just crying to cry at this point.
  1. Bleachi's Avatar
    This is the only real way to put an end to the black markets that plagued Diablo 2 and now plague WoW. It's similar to the logic behind legalizing drugs: if you bring everything to light, then the nasty middlemen go away. In the past, similar situations generally ended well. For example, look back to the Prohibition in the US.

    But of course, there are always the idiots that come out when an announcement like this is made. None of them seem to realize that it was fairly easy to buy items back in D2. Sure, there were risks, but it was still very common.
  1. DoctorDoomkin's Avatar
    From what I can tell, everything that can be sold can be dropped in game.

    If you are impatient and have the cash, you'll get it.

    If you are patient, you'll get it by playing, kinda like how Team Fortress 2 does with their items, minus the players' ability to sell it.

    We'll have to wait and see how this works. So far, you can't really earn alot, and have to pay quite a bit of fees in order to get the money out of the game and into your bank account. Then again, it's nice to see that I have a chance to make actually money and get a free game out of this. :P
  1. StoDaBest's Avatar
    The real money auction house explained by PhronzenDragon:

    diablofans.com/topi­c/26397-the-auction-house-expl­ained/

    Read this and then you will be able to make your mind.

    Because you might be misunderstood.
  1. Boathouse's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nebthet View Post
    And your point is? Now having played Diablo 2 makes you cool or gives you more rights?
    The thing is, this crap is making people who haven't played Diablo 2 lose interest in getting to even try this new D3, like happened to me.
    Because it just sounds horribly cheap and saddens me.
    Yes, not having played Diablo2 means you have NO IDEA that Diablo2 ran off item sales from third party sites and D2JSP. It gives you no backbone to your claim that it's going to ruin the game, make it bad, etc. It's just giving players a safer place to do what they've done for YEARS.
  1. darkensign's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by quras View Post
    Hopes and dreams and piss in the wind.

    They couldn't do it in WOW. It wont happen in D3.
    Um, it did happen in WoW. If it didn't do you honestly think people would actually be buying gold in that game? WoW gold has value because the sources of gold generation are roughly balanced against the size of the game's gold sink.
  1. Kiry's Avatar
    There is no forcing or what have you. It's the ethics of it supported by a company we know and love. We could ignore the 3rd party site, but in this, we cannot ignore the support of literally gold selling, of gear that top real bid can win it all.

    It just leave a bad taste in the mouth.

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