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Stats: Characters that reached LVL 85 in Cataclysm
More interesting stats for you this week! With all the talk about the death of WoW, we decided to take a look at the percentage of characters that made it from being level 80 during Wrath of the Lich King to level 85 today. These stats compare a sample of 1M+ characters from early 2010 and checks which players reached level 85. Keep in mind a few things before interpreting these stats:


  • Death Knight is the least leveled class because everyone leveled one to 80 during WotLK to be one of the cool kids. Including a fair amount of people who ended up not liking it.
  • People didn't hit the "Nothing left to do on my main character, better reroll!" wall that they encountered in WotLK, raids were properly balanced and people didn't spend their first months steamrolling Naxxramas.

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Class Playing Cataclysm
Mage 37.82%
Druid 36.84%
Hunter 36.47%
Priest 36.30%
Warrior 35.83%
Shaman 34.77%
Warlock 34.17%
Paladin 33.45%
Rogue 29.56%
Death Knight 25.58%


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This article was originally published in forum thread: Character Activity Stats, Poll, Trip to Blizzcon Contest, MMO Report started by chaud View original post
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  1. Brock2727's Avatar
    My subscription is still active, but working second shift has caused me to be absent for a good chunk of when my guild's raid groups raid. So I'm often left PUGing, and every time I go to play and I get a fail PUG first thing (usually in the mornings during the week), I get really discouraged and stop playing. I want to raid, but I don't have my weekday evenings free anymore. Shit sucks.I'm going to BlizzCon, though.
  1. Laurabelle's Avatar
    Well if that's what he meant then saying:
    People didn't hit the "Nothing left to do on my main character, better reroll!" wall that they encountered in WotLK, raids were properly balanced and people didn't spend their first months steamrolling Naxxramas.
    Makes no sense, it's way more clearly said as:

    In Cata, people didn't hit the "Nothing left to do on my main character, better reroll!" wall that they encountered in WotLK. Instead, raids were properly balanced in Cata and people didn't spend their first months steamrolling the intro raid tier (as they did in WotLK with Naxxramas).
  1. Conscious's Avatar
    That poll really straightened out.Almost a 50/50 divide for folks still playing and those who have quit, with quite an impressive sample size.
  1. jcf190's Avatar
    The title of the poll should have been: "Are you still playing WoW or have you quit, but are so addicted to the game that you have to browse WoW related forums and websites everyday pretending that you hate the game."
  1. Klasis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by chaud View Post
    I guess no one can read. Vote again and it clearly tells you "Thank you, we have already counted your vote. - "!
    I still got to click vote on it! It made me feel like I had more then one vote. Also my eyes shifted to the numbers as soon as I voted not to the top where it said that, but now that people pointed it out in such a pleasant manner I looked into it.
  1. frott's Avatar
    So around 33% of the 1M level 80 CHARACTERS of an unknown total sample size went from 80 to 85... /plainface :| :| :|

    Nobody has any idea how many real people or accounts those 1M characters represent.

    For all anyone knows, 100% of the accounts in the 1M characters sample size are still active, this could mean that the average person had 3 characters at level 80 and only bothered levelling one of them to 85. The content isn't beaten for the vast majority of players, so it isn't exactly time to saturate alts.

    In short, these are meaningless numbers.


    In early 2010 I had two level 80s. My main from beginning of wrath, and a main i switched to at the tail end of TOC to try out the new dungeon finder (when dps queues were instant) and raid ICC.

    Now I have 4 level 85s.

    The main reason for this is that i like the lack of burst in arenas and the rebalancing and shifting of emphasis on 3v3 (though 2 is terrible now with healer overpoweredness), it is possible to get games in easily in arenas every week... AND, it is ridiculously fast to level a character to 85 and not impossible to get pvp gear with a little bit of bg / arena grinding / tradeskills.



    I'd love to take that same sample and know the number of unique accounts that had a charater at 80 back then that now have a character at 85. It is obviously more than ~33%
  1. Digramma's Avatar
    Ok so i am from Greece.My money is good enough for Curse but not good for joining their competitions or whatever?I will keep it in mind next renewal.
  1. Airlick's Avatar
    Over 40% people reading MMO champion is NOT playing WoW anymore. Nope, WoW is not dying at all.
  1. lilbuddhaman's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Turbodymoman View Post
    Over 40% people reading MMO champion is NOT playing WoW anymore. Nope, WoW is not dying at all.
    But surely the enthusiasts, hardcore, and generally "informed" wow players don't mean anything ? They're only 5% of the population AT BEST. What could they ever do to effect wow's numbers?
    /sarcasm

    When the "real" gamers leave, the casuals (and money) follow. Can't wait for Diablo 3 to release and they instantly lose another 1-2mil simply from people waiting for *anything* else to play.
  1. aiko-chan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Turbodymoman View Post
    Over 40% people reading MMO champion is NOT playing WoW anymore. Nope, WoW is not dying at all.
    I think you mean "Over 40% of the people who bothered to vote on MMOC poll say they are not playing anymore". This is hardly an indication of anything. Blizzard posting actual figures showing a loss in player base is an indication of decline, but this isn't. Want to know an interesting little secret? Hate spreads like wildfire on the internet, land of dickwads, twats and douchebags posting 'anonymously'.

    It's getting really out of hand lately. Take Dragon Age II, for example. A great game? No. A good game? Arguably. Guess what it has on metacritic? A 4.4. ...Yeah, a 4.4. I'd love to take all of those people aside and show them what a real 4.4 game is like. They'd probably weep.
  1. Angosia's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Turbodymoman View Post
    Over 40% people reading MMO champion is NOT playing WoW anymore. Nope, WoW is not dying at all.
    Well, the problem also lies in the fact that the poll doesn't give multiple gradations. It doesn't tell you for example:

    a.) Yes, with no plans to cancel.
    b.) Yes, but I'm planning to cancel soon.
    c.) Yes, but I'm on the fence.
    d.) Yes, I'm waiting for my subscription time to end and will not be renewing.
    e.) No, I cancelled and am not playing.
    f.) No, I never played World of Warcraft.


    I'm sure there are other options. If you were able to put them together, d would factor in both a, b, c and e+f.
  1. F-Minus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by aikoyamamato View Post
    I think you mean "Over 40% of the people who bothered to vote on MMOC poll say they are not playing anymore". This is hardly an indication of anything. Blizzard posting actual figures showing a loss in player base is an indication of decline, but this isn't. Want to know an interesting little secret? Hate spreads like wildfire on the internet, land of dickwads, twats and douchebags posting 'anonymously'.

    It's getting really out of hand lately. Take Dragon Age II, for example. A great game? No. A good game? Arguably. Guess what it has on metacritic? A 4.4. ...Yeah, a 4.4. I'd love to take all of those people aside and show them what a real 4.4 game is like. They'd probably weep.
    Dragon Age II is indeed poop when comparing it to Dragon Age, and I guess that's what most reviewers did. But scores for games are informative in nature, you have to read the review and not just peek at the score - on the same note, A 4.4 for Dragon Age 2 doesn't mean it's on the same level as an XY Game with the same score. You can't compare WoW to Half-Life and so forth, especially not with scores.
  1. lilbuddhaman's Avatar
    Well when a game like the witcher 2, which has equal (if not better) dialogue + voice acting , equal combat mechanics (DA2 might edge it out a bit), a more adult game with dialogue representing "grey area" choices, and VASTLY superior graphics that then gets a lower score by several websites, in-explicitly, people start metacritic 1.0 bombing.

    Blame the press for being bought out by the companies to give higher than deserved scores. DA2 should have gotten a "solid" 75-80%, but instead got numerous 90's (or equivalent). Then you have total bitches-to-the-industry like Kotaku, who purposely write their entire reviews in a positive tone (even when citing negatives), to completely confuse you. Their reviews read like the back of the box or a PR statement. Their old review system was also scoreless, but had a discernable "we liked this, we hated that" format to get a 'real' review.

    TLDR: Industry has gone to shit, just like the movie industry, welcome to the dark ages of Video Games. Hopefully it'll only last 5 years instead of the 30+ it took movies to turn their act around.
  1. Restlessness's Avatar
    great as always
  1. Tang's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Digramma View Post
    Ok so i am from Greece.My money is good enough for Curse but not good for joining their competitions or whatever?I will keep it in mind next renewal.
    It costs more to fly from Greece to Blizzcon than from New York to Blizzcon. As well, EU nations have different laws and regulations than the USA when it comes to contests. Plus, I don't recall any where in the product description for curse premium that listed contests as a feature of the product. So if you pay for Curse Premium because you think you're going to be entitled to enter a contest, then you were already making a poor and uninformed decision.
  1. aiko-chan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by F-Minus View Post
    Dragon Age II is indeed poop when comparing it to Dragon Age, and I guess that's what most reviewers did. But scores for games are informative in nature, you have to read the review and not just peek at the score - on the same note, A 4.4 for Dragon Age 2 doesn't mean it's on the same level as an XY Game with the same score. You can't compare WoW to Half-Life and so forth, especially not with scores.
    Perhaps not, but scales exist for a reason and people still go by them. Your average Joe going to metacritic isn't going to read through all of the reviews, he's going to go "4.4? what the shit" and move on to the next game although he could easily enjoy a game like DA2. My point really is that people need to think for themselves and not just go with the flow.
  1. CipherAgent's Avatar
    I quit WoW over a year ago, but I still like to come here and read the news. Recently I started posting on the SWTOR thread and a few others.
  1. Winfernal's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by jcf190 View Post
    The title of the poll should have been: "Are you still playing WoW or have you quit, but are so addicted to the game that you have to browse WoW related forums and websites everyday pretending that you hate the game."
    Fanoby tears, how lovely
  1. Skippy88's Avatar
    I'm still not sure what to take away from the character percentages. Aside from Rogues and Death Knights the others seem statistiacally similar. For the roughly 40% of users that still visit the site I'm not too surprised. It would have been interesting to see what the percentages were this time frame in BC and WOTLK to compare it to. As for me, when I started raiding MMO-champion was highly recommended as a website where you can learn to raid or your class. It's almos second nature to visit the site 2 or 3 times a day to see the latest news. Even though I'm on Team "No" I still love the game and I can see me coming back to it at some point.
  1. Ujio's Avatar
    I come to the site for the off-topic forums mainly these days, following the SWTOR thread like many other people.

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