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Patch 4.3 Preview - The All New Darkmoon Faire
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Hurry! Hurry! Hurry! Step right up and prepare to be amazed!

It’s incredible! It’s unbelievable! You’ll be dazzled. You’ll be amazed! You aren’t prepared for the Darkmoon Faire, ‘cause it’s like nothing you’ve seen before! Don’t be shy now, don’t be bashful, step right up for a tantalizing glimpse of what we’ve got in store for you when patch 4.3 arrives!

That old thing?

No, no, no, Clem. The Darkmoon Faire isn’t what it used to be and it isn’t where it used to be. The management hasn’t changed but the Faire certainly has. It’s a whole new animal. Tickets? You don’t need those old tickets, just rip ‘em right up, ‘cause we’ve got new tickets! Out with the old, in with the new -- new quests, that is! Things have changed ‘round here: we’ve got an island all to ourselves now, and what an island it is. Mist-shrouded Darkmoon Island is a conundrum wrapped in an enigma. It’s a place of mystery and wonder, and you wouldn’t believe the deals we made to get it… or who we made ‘em with. But never mind that, just follow me right through here and I’ll show you what the Darkmoon Faire is all about.


All new! All spectacular!

Catch a show at the marvelous main stage or witness a dazzling fireworks display. But don’t stare too long or you might miss the stunning spectacles that surround you. Gaze in awe of our magical menagerie, get your fortune told by the amazing Sayge, go on a pony ride, experience the healthful effects of carnival food, and more!

Of course, there’s more to the Darkmoon Faire than just fantastic shows and culinary delights. You can still turn in your Darkmoon Cards, but you wouldn’t just come here for measly ol’ cards when there’s so much more to see, experience, and win. Yes, win! You like dancing bears, right? Everybody likes dancing bears. Even bears like dancing bears. How about a dancing bear… you can ride!

That’s not all! We have adorable companion pets includin’ a fez-wearing monkey, a plethora of profession recipes, toys, balloons, souvenirs, delectable carnival snacks and beverages, heirlooms for the little ones, and even replicas of long-lost suits of armor that we’re offering for your Transmogrification needs. You can also make your mark with new achievements and titles. All it takes to earn these fabulous rewards is a few Darkmoon Faire Prize Tickets and a good reputation with the carnies. How do ya get your grubby mitts on some tickets? I’m glad you asked!

Step right up! Try your luck! Everyone’s a winner!

Have we got games? You bet we’ve got games, and they’re so easy to play an orc could do it. Just head on over to the midway, buy some Darkmoon Game Tokens, and get ready to play. Easy to learn, difficult to master, anyone can play and everyone can win. Just lay your tokens down for a chance at winning Darkmoon Prize Tickets playing games like Whack-a-Gnoll, the Tonk Battle Royale, the Cannon, Ring Toss, the Shooting Gallery, and more! Five games are there to test your skills at any one time. The better you play, the easier it is to win a bucket of Darkmoon Faire Prize Tickets! Once a month, you’ve got a shot at tickets, and the fun never stops ‘cause you can play as many times as you like. But that’s not the only way to win big!


The Darkmoon Faire Field Guide

It’s your passport to riches, my friend. Y’see, we need a few things -- just some junk, nothing valuable to a big hero like you. We call ‘em Darkmoon Artifacts, and there’s all different kinds to be found all over Azeroth. The Darkmoon Field Guide helps you discover artifacts while you’re explorin’ dungeons, slayin’ monsters, and fightin’ in Battlegrounds. Without a guide, you’d never notice ‘em, and it’ll help keep you focused on the stuff we want. Whether you just reached level 10, or you’ve crushed the biggest baddies in the land, we need somethin’ from nearly everybody. You won’t have to go too far out of your way to get ‘em and each month you’ll get a new opportunity to seek out an Artifact for us. What do you get out of the deal? Don’t you worry, you’ll get your cut. When you bring a Darkmoon Artifact back to us, you’ll get valuable experience (it builds character, you know!), earn a better reputation, and possibly earn precious Darkmoon Faire Prize Tickets too!

Oh, did I mention that you can use the Field Guide to get to Darkmoon Island whenever the Darkmoon Faire’s monthly extravaganza is up and running?

So, you want to work in show business?

Maybe you’d like a little peek behind the scenes, eh? Want to see what it takes to run the greatest show on Azeroth? Well, it’s not all sunshine and cotton candy, my friend. There are beasts to heal, food to cook, and buildings to fix. If you’re willing help keep the show going and put your skills to work, you’ll not only impress us, but you can get experience, Darkmoon Prize Tickets, and even polish up your skills -- up to five skill points per profession, per Faire week, if you’re good at what you do!


Darkmoon Deathmatch!

Like any good carnival, the Darkmoon Faire has a shady side. You can leave the skilled labor to the suckers and go for a faster score instead. If you’ve got the minerals, the Darkmoon Deathmatch offers an experience unparalleled since the Gurubashi Arena. Pitmaster Pei has a big old treasure chest just brimming with goodies and Darkmoon Faire Prize Tickets that he’ll drag out into the Darkmoon Deathmatch Pit every three hours or so. Everybody wants it, so if you want a piece of the action you’ll just have to jump in and prove that you’re the toughest one in the Pit.

Oh, the Faire is perfectly safe, Clem. Just don’t wander into the woods.

Now, now, don’t panic. Darkmoon Isle might be a bit spooky, but except for the Deathmatch Pit, the Faire itself is completely safe, I guarantee it. It’s a sanctuary even, and we won’t let anybody’s beef ruin the fun. The shadowy woods surroundin’ the fair are another thing entirely, though. I wouldn’t say that people have disappeared into those woods never to return, but, well… people disappear into those woods never to return. So watch your step , and your back, when you leave the Faire. Don’t say I didn’t warn ya!


Mark your calendar

Now that you know how amazing the new Darkmoon Faire is, you won’t want to miss it. Just take a look at your in-game calendar, and the Darkmoon Faire dates will show up there on the first week of every month. Darkmoon Faire barkers and displays will also pop up in every capital city to herald the arrival of the Faire. Silas Darkmoon himself has even started up a mailer to make sure that no one misses out!

Hitch a ride

During the first week of each month, convenient Darkmoon Faire outposts with Darkmoon Portals will appear in Elwynn Forest and Mulgore, offering free rides to Darkmoon Island and the Faire!

Darkmoon Mages in capital cities and on Darkmoon Island will also be around to help you get between the Faire and various capital cities. There’s no such thing as a free lunch, so naturally you’re obliged to compensate them for their services.

The all new Darkmoon Faire is coming to Darkmoon Island in patch 4.3. Don’t miss it!
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  1. Scyo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by keLston View Post
    Because people are looking for actual content, not a daily quest hub with arbitrary gating mechanics to pace how long it takes you to actually get to the end so that it will last until the next expansion since 4.3 is the last content patch until the next expansion.

    If you looked at it expansion by expansion, this is the worst expansion by amount of actual content but each time someone brings it up, some Blizzard apologist quickly comes up with some excuse demanding people to stop being so negative. Why? Did your monthly subscription start costing less? Did Cataclysm expansion cost less than the TBC expansion or WotLK expansion?

    TBC gave us nearly 60 raid bosses, a new "planet", a ton of new dungeons and bosses within, heroics, and love it or hate it gave us arenas and daily BG/honor grinds as a way for PvPers to compete which was also brand new content. WotLK gave us like 45 some raid bosses, a new continent, a handful of new dungeons, and it gave casuals a way to gear up with the Argent Tournament.

    Cataclysm will end up giving us 20? some raid bosses and at least 2 end ones so far have been recycled (Nef and Ragnaros), 7 new dungeons and recycled for us Shadowfang Keep and Deadmines, recycled ZA and ZG and called them "new", gave us like 5 new zones. The content is so lacking, in fact, that Blizzard apologists are so desperate that you're willing to latch on to a side event like the Darkmoon Faire and call it "content"? Oh look it adds a mount ooooh. And some companion pets. Oooooh. So a billion dollar company took a year to add 1 mount and some companion pets? This is what you accept as content now when you are paying the same price? Your bar is so low?

    They're not even bothering trying to put out new content because they decided that after 5 years of saying they didn't want you changing how you looked, they reneged and introduced transmogrification and you said HOORAY. So the "new content" of Cataclysm is you going back to do level 60 raids to get the gear you sold 4 years ago, that way, they don't have to make any new things for you because you're too busy going HEHEHE LETS GET THE OLD STUFF AGAIN THAT I FARMED BEFORE.

    This is why the game is dumbed down. Because Blizzard keeps lowering the bar and instead of getting an outcry, you just nod and lower your expectations below their bar and accept what they gave you. Giving you less and less each year but trying to squeeze out more microtransactions, and you keep paying for extra while accepting less for the same price you've been paying.

    It's absurd. And stupid.

    Content? It's not content. It's laughing at you and you're apologizing for it.
    Drug dealers are doing pretty much the same, Blizzard just does it in a socialy accepted way.
  1. Schmilblick's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Scyo View Post
    Drug dealers are doing pretty much the same, Blizzard just does it in a socialy accepted way.
    No, in a socialy retarded way, like the crappy mounts they are selling in the Blizzard store.
  1. Desminn's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by keLston View Post
    Content? It's not content. It's laughing at you and you're apologizing for it.
    it is content. it may not be what you consider content but it is content.

    also how is "it laughing" at anyone? people have been asking for a lot of this stuff for years.

    and who the hell is apologizing??

    4.3 looks to be a great patch. did other expansions have more content than cata? depends on your definition of content really but for the most part yes the other expansions did.

    most of that conent from those expansions is still there though. should they have done more with cata? probably.

    is 4.3 content-less and DMF gonna be lame? doubt it.
  1. Alayea's Avatar
    I haven't visited DMF in at least a year or two, I think. The new DMF has definitely piqued my interest, what with the pets/armor/rep changes. I just hope my computer can handle the crowds that'll be there on the first day. :S
  1. Malygos The Spellweaver's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by keLston View Post
    Because people are looking for actual content, not a daily quest hub with arbitrary gating mechanics to pace how long it takes you to actually get to the end so that it will last until the next expansion since 4.3 is the last content patch until the next expansion.

    If you looked at it expansion by expansion, this is the worst expansion by amount of actual content but each time someone brings it up, some Blizzard apologist quickly comes up with some excuse demanding people to stop being so negative. Why? Did your monthly subscription start costing less? Did Cataclysm expansion cost less than the TBC expansion or WotLK expansion?

    TBC gave us nearly 60 raid bosses, a new "planet", a ton of new dungeons and bosses within, heroics, and love it or hate it gave us arenas and daily BG/honor grinds as a way for PvPers to compete which was also brand new content. WotLK gave us like 45 some raid bosses, a new continent, a handful of new dungeons, and it gave casuals a way to gear up with the Argent Tournament.

    Cataclysm will end up giving us 20? some raid bosses and at least 2 end ones so far have been recycled (Nef and Ragnaros), 7 new dungeons and recycled for us Shadowfang Keep and Deadmines, recycled ZA and ZG and called them "new", gave us like 5 new zones. The content is so lacking, in fact, that Blizzard apologists are so desperate that you're willing to latch on to a side event like the Darkmoon Faire and call it "content"? Oh look it adds a mount ooooh. And some companion pets. Oooooh. So a billion dollar company took a year to add 1 mount and some companion pets? This is what you accept as content now when you are paying the same price? Your bar is so low?

    They're not even bothering trying to put out new content because they decided that after 5 years of saying they didn't want you changing how you looked, they reneged and introduced transmogrification and you said HOORAY. So the "new content" of Cataclysm is you going back to do level 60 raids to get the gear you sold 4 years ago, that way, they don't have to make any new things for you because you're too busy going HEHEHE LETS GET THE OLD STUFF AGAIN THAT I FARMED BEFORE.

    This is why the game is dumbed down. Because Blizzard keeps lowering the bar and instead of getting an outcry, you just nod and lower your expectations below their bar and accept what they gave you. Giving you less and less each year but trying to squeeze out more microtransactions, and you keep paying for extra while accepting less for the same price you've been paying.

    It's absurd. And stupid.

    Content? It's not content. It's laughing at you and you're apologizing for it.
    Oh yeah, Cataclysm didn't add shit.

    Besides, you know, THE COMPLETE AND TOTAL REDO OF THE 1-60 EXPERIENCE INCLUDING NEW QUESTS AND LANDSCAPES.

    Every idiot who bitches about the fact that an expansion that added only 5 new levels doesn't have enough end game content always forgets that it did a lot more to early game content as well.

    And Nef and Rag, recycled? Are you fucking kidding me? Just because they are the same fucking character doesn't mean its the same fucking content. Compare the Blackwing Lair and Blackwing Descent encounters. They aren't ANY BIT alike. The same applies to quite a few bosses in Shadowfang Keep and Deadmines.

    Stop acting like you know shit, because you clearly don't.
  1. Bahska's Avatar
    Content? It's not content.
    It is for some, not everyone who plays wow or who has left recently is a raider. Not everything they add has to be a raid or something to do with a raid. Seeing as how there is nothing to do for the non raider atm i don't see adding this type of content as a bad thing. It may not be for you and that's fine. Right now you log into the game to either level a toon, do 5 mans or raid. So there adding something to do on your off time why is that bad? If you don't wanna do it fine if you do well its there for you simple as that.

    Not every piece of content has to be for the raider, just like not every piece has to be for the casual.
  1. RincrowTheOmnipotent's Avatar
    This is great. I'm loving these Cataclysm patches. Now if only they could finish them faster and give us more.
  1. Tidycat's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by keLston View Post
    Because people are looking for actual content, not a daily quest hub with arbitrary gating mechanics to pace how long it takes you to actually get to the end so that it will last until the next expansion since 4.3 is the last content patch until the next expansion.

    If you looked at it expansion by expansion, this is the worst expansion by amount of actual content but each time someone brings it up, some Blizzard apologist quickly comes up with some excuse demanding people to stop being so negative. Why? Did your monthly subscription start costing less? Did Cataclysm expansion cost less than the TBC expansion or WotLK expansion?

    TBC gave us nearly 60 raid bosses, a new "planet", a ton of new dungeons and bosses within, heroics, and love it or hate it gave us arenas and daily BG/honor grinds as a way for PvPers to compete which was also brand new content. WotLK gave us like 45 some raid bosses, a new continent, a handful of new dungeons, and it gave casuals a way to gear up with the Argent Tournament.

    Cataclysm will end up giving us 20? some raid bosses and at least 2 end ones so far have been recycled (Nef and Ragnaros), 7 new dungeons and recycled for us Shadowfang Keep and Deadmines, recycled ZA and ZG and called them "new", gave us like 5 new zones. The content is so lacking, in fact, that Blizzard apologists are so desperate that you're willing to latch on to a side event like the Darkmoon Faire and call it "content"? Oh look it adds a mount ooooh. And some companion pets. Oooooh. So a billion dollar company took a year to add 1 mount and some companion pets? This is what you accept as content now when you are paying the same price? Your bar is so low?

    They're not even bothering trying to put out new content because they decided that after 5 years of saying they didn't want you changing how you looked, they reneged and introduced transmogrification and you said HOORAY. So the "new content" of Cataclysm is you going back to do level 60 raids to get the gear you sold 4 years ago, that way, they don't have to make any new things for you because you're too busy going HEHEHE LETS GET THE OLD STUFF AGAIN THAT I FARMED BEFORE.

    This is why the game is dumbed down. Because Blizzard keeps lowering the bar and instead of getting an outcry, you just nod and lower your expectations below their bar and accept what they gave you. Giving you less and less each year but trying to squeeze out more microtransactions, and you keep paying for extra while accepting less for the same price you've been paying.

    It's absurd. And stupid.

    Content? It's not content. It's laughing at you and you're apologizing for it.
    I agree with pretty much all of this statement 100%. I strongly believe that Blizz knows they didnt do as well with Cata as they could have. I think they are wrapping up the Exp with some small fun things in 4.3 and will try to release MOP (or whatever it might be) sooner than expected to kind of plug the dam if you shall. I do think people forget about all the 1-60 content they changed, which was great and was a lot of work Im sure but did nothing for people in end game. The recycling of dungeons was kind of lazy, but it isnt the first time they have done it (im looking at you LK Naxx, and Onyxia). No company I can think of can release a diamond every time. Apple has filed before, lord knows MS has failed before (ME, Vista) and several others. Unfortunately all the petty screaming 12-15 year olds hold Blizz on too high of a pedestal and the only way to please those people is go F2P, release a patch every week, and have 900+ playable different classes and make sure not a single one is too OP
  1. Warchief94's Avatar
    'Mist-shrouded Darkmoon Island' - Mists of Pandaria hint or possible pre-expansion stuff going on on this island?
  1. xskarma's Avatar
    They better not release this 4.3 patch in the second week of the month and make me wait three weeks till I can go there
  1. Platipuss's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by keLston View Post

    Content? It's not content. It's laughing at you and you're apologizing for it.
    ^ This!

    Blizzard: We give you more PETS!
    Players: Wheeeee!
    Blizzard: Also we give you more OLD STUFF!
    Players: Wheeeee!
    Blizzard: And quess what?
    Players: WHAT!!!!!
    ...
    ...
    Blizzard: MORE DAILIES!
    Players: Yeeeehaaaw! Thats most exciting patch ever! We love you Blizz!
  1. Clockwork Pinkie's Avatar
    Pretty much a new daily hub, but they look so simple and easy this time around, and you wont have to do them everday. Can't wait for 4.3
  1. volwratth's Avatar
    I don't know how anyone can complain about this.. I hate dailies so so so so much. I Quit raiding, I never do dailys or quests, I have just been messing around pvping and archeology for the mount lol.. But So far eveything in this patch sounds awsome.. Transformawhatever and Darkfare are prob the 2 greatest patch notes I have seen in years.It does not sound like just a daily hub.. actually sounds like alot of fun and bringing back a new gurabshi arena souds epic.Cataclysm may = dissapointmentbut 4.3 = best best patch ever by far
  1. feigning's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by keLston View Post
    Because people are looking for actual content, not a daily quest hub with arbitrary gating mechanics to pace how long it takes you to actually get to the end so that it will last until the next expansion since 4.3 is the last content patch until the next expansion.

    If you looked at it expansion by expansion, this is the worst expansion by amount of actual content but each time someone brings it up, some Blizzard apologist quickly comes up with some excuse demanding people to stop being so negative. Why? Did your monthly subscription start costing less? Did Cataclysm expansion cost less than the TBC expansion or WotLK expansion?

    TBC gave us nearly 60 raid bosses, a new "planet", a ton of new dungeons and bosses within, heroics, and love it or hate it gave us arenas and daily BG/honor grinds as a way for PvPers to compete which was also brand new content. WotLK gave us like 45 some raid bosses, a new continent, a handful of new dungeons, and it gave casuals a way to gear up with the Argent Tournament.

    Cataclysm will end up giving us 20? some raid bosses and at least 2 end ones so far have been recycled (Nef and Ragnaros), 7 new dungeons and recycled for us Shadowfang Keep and Deadmines, recycled ZA and ZG and called them "new", gave us like 5 new zones. The content is so lacking, in fact, that Blizzard apologists are so desperate that you're willing to latch on to a side event like the Darkmoon Faire and call it "content"? Oh look it adds a mount ooooh. And some companion pets. Oooooh. So a billion dollar company took a year to add 1 mount and some companion pets? This is what you accept as content now when you are paying the same price? Your bar is so low?

    They're not even bothering trying to put out new content because they decided that after 5 years of saying they didn't want you changing how you looked, they reneged and introduced transmogrification and you said HOORAY. So the "new content" of Cataclysm is you going back to do level 60 raids to get the gear you sold 4 years ago, that way, they don't have to make any new things for you because you're too busy going HEHEHE LETS GET THE OLD STUFF AGAIN THAT I FARMED BEFORE.

    This is why the game is dumbed down. Because Blizzard keeps lowering the bar and instead of getting an outcry, you just nod and lower your expectations below their bar and accept what they gave you. Giving you less and less each year but trying to squeeze out more microtransactions, and you keep paying for extra while accepting less for the same price you've been paying.

    It's absurd. And stupid.

    Content? It's not content. It's laughing at you and you're apologizing for it.
    You're being ridiculous. You are forcing the idea that only your idea of fun is, in fact, fun. I happen to enjoy Cataclysm. You can call me a "Blizzard Apologist" (what the hell does that even mean?) all you want, but my enjoyment is my enjoyment.

    The Burning Crusade gave lots of raid bosses. Yep. Big deal. Everyone saw every single one right? They all had fun and interesting mechanics, right? Were they fun, yes. Does the amount of them make for fun? I don't think so. You can prefer quantity, I prefer quality. You can try and argue that Firelands is shit since it only has 7 bosses, but really, they are all pretty unique. Lord Rhyolith, while I despise the fight, it's not like anything else that we've seen. Staghelm and Alysrazor are completely different than anything else. Atramedes was pretty damn neat. Conclave of Wind is probably one of my favourite fights to date.

    Recycled content? Seriously, stop with that fucking word. How similar are the new Deadmines and Shadowfang Keep to the originals? They have the same setting? Got it. How about Zul'Gurub? Same setting? Got it. You basically flat out said you just want more bosses. Well, these are more bosses. Yet you hate it because these bosses are in a place you visited 6 years ago. Got it. Throw the word recycled around all you like, it doesn't make the dungeons any less fun. Was the new Deadmines on heroic terrible? Nope. Not at all. Vanessa VanCleef and Cookie were really cool and fun encounters. I loved them.

    Why is it you're screaming that Cataclysm has less content? What do you call content? Just raid bosses? Then, by gum, you're right! It has less raid bosses. Ergo, it's terrible and has no content. You're opinion. I've had loads of fun with this expansion. Just because you haven't, doesn't mean others don't enjoy it.

    Transmogrification does excite me. I get tired of seeing my clones everywhere. I'd like to actually roleplay in the roleplaying game we all play. Nuts, I know. And guess what, I'm not even raiding anymore. My guild decided we'd had enough. So now I'm just enjoying the content in questing and PvP. This new Darkmoon Faire will add a fun and unique experience at the start of each month from now on. You don't like it? That sucks. You get your Deathwind raid though. Why the hell do you hate on one aspect of the patch so much when there is already a really good piece coming your way?

    The game is not dumbed down. Why do you say it is? I'm pretty sure stat priorities and reforging and all the other stuff they've thrown in has made managing your character far more complex than ever before. Raid content is much more difficult than ever before. (Though, since we're all Dragonslaying Firelord Gladiators that are Insane and ride around on a giant Robot Head that's pretty Invincible here on MMO-Champion, I guess we wouldn't notice.) My server's top guild is 2/7 heroic. Sinestra was only just downed recently. What exactly was "dumbed" down?

    Content? It's content! I'm laughing and having fun and you're pouting over it.
  1. Azalu's Avatar
    TBC? 60 bosses? where'd you get that number from?
  1. Urt's Avatar
    I was sold at Hurry!
    But seriously....Monkey + Fez Hat. Like the monkey alone wasn't worth it.
  1. Bahska's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by feigning View Post
    You're being ridiculous. You are forcing the idea that only your idea of fun is, in fact, fun. I happen to enjoy Cataclysm. You can call me a "Blizzard Apologist" (what the hell does that even mean?) all you want, but my enjoyment is my enjoyment.

    The Burning Crusade gave lots of raid bosses. Yep. Big deal. Everyone saw every single one right? They all had fun and interesting mechanics, right? Were they fun, yes. Does the amount of them make for fun? I don't think so. You can prefer quantity, I prefer quality. You can try and argue that Firelands is shit since it only has 7 bosses, but really, they are all pretty unique. Lord Rhyolith, while I despise the fight, it's not like anything else that we've seen. Staghelm and Alysrazor are completely different than anything else. Atramedes was pretty damn neat. Conclave of Wind is probably one of my favourite fights to date.

    Recycled content? Seriously, stop with that fucking word. How similar are the new Deadmines and Shadowfang Keep to the originals? They have the same setting? Got it. How about Zul'Gurub? Same setting? Got it. You basically flat out said you just want more bosses. Well, these are more bosses. Yet you hate it because these bosses are in a place you visited 6 years ago. Got it. Throw the word recycled around all you like, it doesn't make the dungeons any less fun. Was the new Deadmines on heroic terrible? Nope. Not at all. Vanessa VanCleef and Cookie were really cool and fun encounters. I loved them.

    Why is it you're screaming that Cataclysm has less content? What do you call content? Just raid bosses? Then, by gum, you're right! It has less raid bosses. Ergo, it's terrible and has no content. You're opinion. I've had loads of fun with this expansion. Just because you haven't, doesn't mean others don't enjoy it.

    Transmogrification does excite me. I get tired of seeing my clones everywhere. I'd like to actually roleplay in the roleplaying game we all play. Nuts, I know. And guess what, I'm not even raiding anymore. My guild decided we'd had enough. So now I'm just enjoying the content in questing and PvP. This new Darkmoon Faire will add a fun and unique experience at the start of each month from now on. You don't like it? That sucks. You get your Deathwind raid though. Why the hell do you hate on one aspect of the patch so much when there is already a really good piece coming your way?

    The game is not dumbed down. Why do you say it is? I'm pretty sure stat priorities and reforging and all the other stuff they've thrown in has made managing your character far more complex than ever before. Raid content is much more difficult than ever before. (Though, since we're all Dragonslaying Firelord Gladiators that are Insane and ride around on a giant Robot Head that's pretty Invincible here on MMO-Champion, I guess we wouldn't notice.) My server's top guild is 2/7 heroic. Sinestra was only just downed recently. What exactly was "dumbed" down?

    Content? It's content! I'm laughing and having fun and you're pouting over it.
    100% agreed, also Ragnaros heroic was one of if not the hardest encounter Blizz has ever made Dumbed down" i think not.
  1. feigning's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Azalu View Post
    TBC? 60 bosses? where'd you get that number from?
    TBC did have about 52. He exaggerated slightly, but I won't fault him for it. TBC did have more bosses than Cataclysm has had so far. You know, since it's not even completed. And the amount of bosses is really all that matters.
  1. keLston's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Malygos The Spellweaver View Post
    And Nef and Rag, recycled? Are you fucking kidding me? Just because they are the same fucking character doesn't mean its the same fucking content. Compare the Blackwing Lair and Blackwing Descent encounters. They aren't ANY BIT alike. The same applies to quite a few bosses in Shadowfang Keep and Deadmines.

    Stop acting like you know shit, because you clearly don't.
    The question is, do you? Have you even done Rag? I'm 6/7H. What are you? You're praising the 1-60 redo lol, so you must be some rando casual. Rag is pmuch the same except he hits harder. He does a knockback, he summons sons, he even submerges. The difference is, you hit him from the front the entire time. Is the fight harder? Sure. But don't kid yourself if the fight is somehow novel or new.

    And really? Oh man, they redid 1-60 that takes 20 minutes to go through and all the zones are empty and you get idiots in your level 85 group who do 600 dps because hunters use expertise. AWESOME LEVEL 1-60 BRO. YOU DID IT. CONGRATS. With a billion dollars, it only took you 5 and a half years to revamp this content that has been sitting here.

    I hope you could update a god damned quest that tells you to collect 10 bear asses with a billion dollars within 5 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bahska View Post
    100% agreed, also Ragnaros heroic was one of if not the hardest encounter Blizz has ever made Dumbed down" i think not.
    Forcing raid stacking to make an encounter hard doesn't make an encounter new, unique, or exciting. It simply makes it tediously stupid.

    Bulldozing a brickwall using your face is hard too. But doing so is still dumb. Therefore, just because HM Ragnaros is "hard" isn't indicative of anything. It's not skillfully hard. It's tediously hard.

    There's a reason the few 10mans that actually have managed to pull off a HM Rags kill are the ones that have access to a 25+ man bench and can do things like throw down 2 hunters and 2 frost DKs and call it a normal raid setup (one Korean guild with a 10m H Rags kill did this).
  1. Trakanonn's Avatar
    doesnt interest me whatsoever. Never once did a faire except as a nooby back in the vanilla days

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