Update #2 - We mirrored the interview in this post if you want to check it out.
Update - Looks like the escapist took the article down, probably went up earlier than expected.

Rogue Legendary and Patch 4.3
Another interview showed up today in The Escapist. The most important part is the Rogue Legendary dagger and new raid level difficulty, but the important points are all below.


  • Rogues will get a legendary dagger and exciting quest line to go with it. The lore for the dagger has not been decided upon yet.
  • Looking for Raid tool raids will be easier than normal raids using a new level of difficulty (Looking For Raid).
  • The Looking for Raid tool will only work for 25 man raids, not 10 man.
  • Players will get different achievements and loot from doing Random Raid mode, no normal mode achievements or perks will be gained.
  • This will introduce players to the content and mechanics of the fights so that they are more prepared for an actual raid.
  • The new five mans will have tighter story integration with the Deathwing Raid than Icecrown Heroics did.
  • The Dragonflights will work together to help take down Deathwing.
  • Deathwing's random zone burning will continue at least until the end of Patch 4.3.
  • They might be talking about Pandas at Blizzcon.


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  1. homerunhomer's Avatar
    Oh good a rogue weapon, just what the rest of the melee wanted to hear. Any chance I can make Shadowmourne 85 legendary quality Blizzard?
  1. Thundermoose's Avatar
    Rogue legendary? I love you Blizzard!
  1. Culexus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Khanjin View Post
    Say what. Instead of making an axe, mace or fist weapon usable by 2 classes, 3 specs... They make a dagger usable by... assassination? Unless it's an offhand? Unlikely. Why wouldn't they hit another fly in one go by making it usable by enhancement? They haven't had a legendary, ever and no Sulfuras doesn't count.

    Lame, Blizzard. What are you thinking?
    Oh yes sulfuras counts. But with the rest of your post i do agree.
  1. Draenox's Avatar
    A legendary that works for 2 specs in 1 class. Ridiculously fucking dumb, I hope this isn't serious. Feral and enhancement legendaries on the table please! -.-
  1. mmocb44a23b4bf's Avatar
    THey should make it legendary sword, so quite a few classes could use it. Also it should not have agi or str stats on it.
  1. Pekoe's Avatar
    Someday, Blizzard will make a Legendary Quest chain that every player of every class can muddle through. The final reward will be to pick a single item from a list of 10 available legendary items. The quest chain will be so absolutely long, so absolutely expensive and hard to complete that very few people will ever finish it. The chain should be 500 quests long, require X-number of achievement points and have achievement requirements from previous content... No one will ever want to get the stupid thing except hard core meganerds.
    Okay, they will never do it. But if they did, can you imagine the QQ?
    Legendary this. Legendary that.
    Really, the only people complaining about the lack of legendary items are probably the people who wouldn't have the means to get one even if there was one specially made for them.

    IMO- Making legendary items available to a broader number of people doesn't make the item less legendary. The only truly legendary item to have ever been made by Blizzard was the AQ Scepter mount. It was only epic quality, but since only about 1 person per server ever got one... How legendary do you want your items? Having something that no-one else on your server can ever get is legendary. THAT is pretty darn special.
  1. mmoc083ea4bc9b's Avatar
    yeah, frakin rogues didnt have the warglaives and now another legendary for them?? bring in some balance please!!!
  1. Ionite's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Velix View Post
    Omfg...come on...next legendary for rogues ?
    Melee = 4 times legendary ( now 5 ? -.- )
    Rdps = 1 legendary
    Heal = 1 legendary
    Tanks ? nope................... WE WANT FU*CKIN LEGENDARY SHIELD...come on[COLOR="red"]
    Omfg...come on...next legendary for rogues ?Melee = 4 times legendary ( now 5 ? -.- )Rdps = 1 legendary Heal = 1 legendaryTanks ? nope................... WE WANT FU*CKIN LEGENDARY SHIELD...come on
    Except ranged had 3 legendaries(Atiesh, Thoridal, Dragonwrath), healers - two(Atiesh again, Vala'nyr), and tanks one(Thunderfury). Get your facts straight.

    Only dagger rogues and feral druids didn't have one so far.
  1. mmocd950f823e3's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Draenox View Post
    A legendary that works for 2 specs in 1 class. Ridiculously fucking dumb, I hope this isn't serious. Feral and enhancement legendaries on the table please! -.-
    Blizzard tells about a dagger, yeah. But we don't know the speed of it. The 1.8 would be for 2 spec in MH, as the 1.4 for the 3 spec in OH. Let's see how it will be !
  1. mmocf091b86e91's Avatar
    The Looking for Raid tool will only work for 25 man raids, not 10 man.
    We can only speculate this will be super easy mode, I am thinking ICC buff + t11 debuff + luck of the draw all rolled into a Piñata mode.
  1. Jimmyx's Avatar
    Priest healer - Atiesh ; Val'anyr ; Priest shadow - Atiesh ; Dragonwrath ; MAge - Atiesh ; Dragonwrath ; Warlock - Atiesh ; Dragonwrath ; Rogue - Warglaive x2 ; Thori'dal ; Druid resto - Atiesh ; Val'anyr ; Druid balance - Atiesh ; Dragonwrath ; Hunter - Thori'dal ; Shaman resto - Val'anyr ; Shaman elemental - Dragonwrath ; Pala Holy - Val'anyr ; Pala Ret - Sulfuras ; Shadowmourne Warrior DPS - Sulfuras ; Warglaive x2 ; Thori'dal ; Shadowmourne DK - Sulfuras ; Warglaive x2 ; Shadowmourne ; War, Pala tank - Thunderfury ; Feral + Enhanacement - ???? Sulfuras ??? oh.. seriously .It's not enha/ feral weapon at all o.o
  1. Draenox's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eryndriela View Post
    Blizzard tells about a dagger, yeah. But we don't know the speed of it. The 1.8 would be for 2 spec in MH, as the 1.4 for the 3 spec in OH. Let's how it will be !
    A legendary offhand weapon would remove just a tad of the "legendarish" feel about it dont you think? Not the mention that Blizzard never created legendary daggers before because they like legendaries to be cool and flashy, not some tiny shortblade with minimal space to create art on.

    But on the other hand, Thunderfury was a 1hander after all...

    "This sword-sized weapon is a dagger!"
  1. mmoc8b06f67515's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmyx View Post
    Feral + Enhanacement - ???? Sulfuras ??? oh.. seriously .It's not enha/ feral weapon at all o.o
    Actually Sulfuras was wicked sick for Enh Shamans in Vanilla when Windfury worked diffrent and the actual stats on the weapons you used didn't matter as much as it does today.
  1. Joratox's Avatar
    Hell Yeah! Legendary dagger! I've been thinking to change my main assassination rogue to something else, but for now the change will have to wait.
  1. mmoc72d6f39082's Avatar
    Say what? O.oRogue Legendary dagger, so Warglaives wasnt enough? no no how about making a weapon that only the least played class can use.. in 1 spec. Ridiculous.
  1. Aryakin's Avatar
    I try not to think of anything being set in stone until it's live. I would hope that with all the focus on bringing legendary items to a wider range of classes/specs that Blizz wouldn't focus solely on one class or spec. I think it would be awesome for the legendaries to follow along the same lines as Quel'Delar. Do the same quest line, take the same actions, but instead of a single item you get to choose what fits your character best. Even something similar to Atiesh would be awesome. A general item that changes stats/procs/bonuses based on the class that uses it... but /shrug guess we'll just have to wait and see =)
  1. mmoc9238fc433e's Avatar
    Well, maybe ist is a 2.40 dagger or 2.60 dagger which would be usable by Enh. Schamans at least and all 3 Rogue Spec's and if you create a offhand with melee stats even ferals. You'd just have to programm that the damage on the weapon scales down for the 2 rogue dagger spec's (the max dmg) or it would be OP
  1. mmoc325978b4bb's Avatar
    I'm calling it a fake.
    And even if it isn't, I'll still pretend it is.
    A 1 class only legendary? Everyone was sure that it would have been a polearm, but it seems like "narrow classes" now means 1.
    Plus, I haven't been using my rogue for a while but don't we use daggers only in our non-optimal PvE spec?
  1. mmoc1c36e0d554's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmyx View Post
    Priest healer - Atiesh ; Val'anyr ; Priest shadow - Atiesh ; Dragonwrath ; MAge - Atiesh ; Dragonwrath ; Warlock - Atiesh ; Dragonwrath ; Rogue - Warglaive x2 ; Thori'dal ; Druid resto - Atiesh ; Val'anyr ; Druid balance - Atiesh ; Dragonwrath ; Hunter - Thori'dal ; Shaman resto - Val'anyr ; Shaman elemental - Dragonwrath ; Pala Holy - Val'anyr ; Pala Ret - Sulfuras ; Shadowmourne Warrior DPS - Sulfuras ; Warglaive x2 ; Thori'dal ; Shadowmourne DK - Sulfuras ; Warglaive x2 ; Shadowmourne ; War, Pala tank - Thunderfury ; Feral + Enhanacement - ???? Sulfuras ??? oh.. seriously .It's not enha/ feral weapon at all o.o
    So you say:
    Druid resto - Atiesh ; Val'anyr ;
    Druid balance - Atiesh ;
    Druid feral - NONE

    I say:
    Rogue assasin - NONE (untill patch 4.3) ;
    Rogue combat - Warglaive x2 ;
  1. Rerox's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Draenox View Post
    Not the mention that Blizzard never created legendary daggers before because they like legendaries to be cool and flashy, not some tiny shortblade with minimal space to create art on.
    They did!

    What I don't get about the Feral outrage: you got an epic Staff in Firelands that turns you into a f***ing FIRE CAT! A FIRE CAT!!!
    Honestly, I would trade any legendary Dagger for something that would pimp my appearance like this proc does.

    Besides the people whining about rogues _possibly_ getting a legendary, while Enh. Shamans or Ferals don't. So you complain that one CLASS (out of 10) gets some orange pixels, but rather want one SPEC (out of 30!) get one?

    You all know that Blizzard will most likely not create a legendary item again, that players can chose with the "right" stats like Quel'Delar. If they wanted to do it again, they could have done it several times since Atiesh. In most cases, they have enough problems balancing one proc of a legendary, let alone x different procs for x different specs/stat-types.

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