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World of Warcraft - Class Talent Systems Panel

Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Talents 2.0
  • Major change to class talent trees, and this is a new phase of development for the talent system.
  • The goal is to have you sit to another next to another combat rogue, and this combat rogue will actually have different talents than you do!
  • Character customization was the original point of talents in the first place but overtime cookie cutter builds dominated the scene.

New Model
  • Class Abilities are available to all specs in the class. All warriors learn heroic strike for example.
  • Spec Abilities are available to certain specs. Only Arms warriors learn Slam. Retribution and Protection paladin get Hammer of the Righteous, etc ...
  • Talents are optional skills/bonuses available to all specs. Any warrior can choose Throwdown, and you will have to pick between 3 different crowd control abilities on this level of talent.
  • Level 15 - You pick your first talent. For example, warriors have to pick between Juggernaut / Double Time / Warbringer and players will have to pick which mobility ability they want to pick depending on their playstyle.

Talent Philosophy
  • Access to stuff you never could before. If you were a subtlety rogue you knew you weren't going to get something like Killing Spree. And because talents are going to be all in the same tree, you're going to be able to combine them in a way that you never could before. For example, any rogue can have Shadowstep!
  • Several new, overpowered (feeling) talents will be added to the game.
  • If you don't see a beloved talent in your new talents list, don't worry, it's probably something we gave your spec as a baseline. For example all Holy priests now have Circle of Healing.
  • No mandatory talents anymore.
  • Every choice should be hard but fun!

Talent Preview
  • Design will iterate a lot on individual talents
  • Don't obsess about the numbers

Death Knight
See screenshots of all tiers


Druid
See screenshots of all tiers


Hunter
See screenshots of all tiers


Mage
See screenshots of all tiers


Paladin
See screenshots of all tiers


Priest
See screenshots of all tiers


Rogue
See screenshots of all tiers


Shaman
See screenshots of all tiers


Warlock
See screenshots of all tiers


Warrior
See screenshots of all tiers


Change is scary!!!
  • Talents aren't set in stone yet.
  • Questions will be answered during the Q&As tomorrow.
  • An online developer Q&A will happen on October 27
This article was originally published in forum thread: World of Warcraft - Class Talent Systems Panel started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 245 Comments
  1. invictusordead's Avatar
    mage talents sux so hard i feel like deleting my char. then i saw last tier warlock and simple start crying, why all the cool pve go all to warlocks??? why we need double sheep fgs...
  1. Nefastus's Avatar
    Would rather they went back to models pre wrath, with lots of points. Not that matters really, so many fuck ups in this next xpac.
  1. Zafire's Avatar
    This seems a bit bland to me, if i'm understanding it right. You get a few special abilities for picking your baseline path (Sub/Combat/Assass for example), then every multiple of 15 you get a choice to make?

    So every character will basically be a carbon copy of each other, besides 8-9 things? IDK if I like the sound of that.

    Or is it "You can pick your talents as you go but every multiple of 15 you get a choice"??

    #2 would be okay, but sounds more like #1 to me.
  1. risenson's Avatar
    seems spriest got nerfed with this new talent set up
  1. arthar77's Avatar
    oh men they screwed completly Healing for warrior ... WTF ou would have to chose between ... our 3 min 30% regeneration ... the 5% while stun and 3 % while been damamged and the new victory rush 30 sec coldown plus 20 of rage ... damn this is disspaointing ... long was and still TBC and WLK best expansions u_u ... this is over ... too simple and too narrow.
  1. EUDOXIO's Avatar
    Finally, i got the New WoW Class Logos Shaman i55.tinypic.com/166ehz4.jpgDK i56.tinypic.com/o6fq4x.jpgHunter i53.tinypic.com/mr8uo5.jpgWarlock i53.tinypic.com/678u3a.jpgMage i51.tinypic.com/t7mmj8.jpgPaladin i56.tinypic.com/2h69ah2.jpgPriest i54.tinypic.com/97v70n.jpgRogue i51.tinypic.com/v32hx0.jpgWarrior i54.tinypic.com/13ynuco.jpgNo dr00ds sorry
  1. Televators's Avatar
    This system is amazing! People are seriously NOT READING and saying some dumb things. It's pretty obvious that almost all of the new talents are UTILITY -- thus no effect on damage and no "cookie cutter" spec. This allows the specs to do similar damage while letting the player decide which UTILITY role to play. Get it?
  1. JRSpaniel's Avatar
    Okay, is anyone else completely excited for the return of Corpse Explosion?
  1. EUDOXIO's Avatar
    Finally, i got the New WoW Class Logos Shaman i55.tinypic.com/166ehz4.jpg DK i56.tinypic.com/o6fq4x.jpg Hunter i53.tinypic.com/mr8uo5.jpg Warlock i53.tinypic.com/678u3a.jpg Mage i51.tinypic.com/t7mmj8.jpg Paladin i56.tinypic.com/2h69ah2.jpg Priest i54.tinypic.com/97v70n.jpg Rogue i51.tinypic.com/v32hx0.jpg Warrior i54.tinypic.com/13ynuco.jpg No dr00ds sorry
  1. Zafire's Avatar
    They were talking about "Combat rogues" sitting next to each other and not being the same combat rogue.

    Do we still get to choose a path? I was under the impression that idea was wiped.
  1. Lethizia's Avatar
    Nope, shadowpriest will be amazing with that new system, i promise. Anyhow, i dont like this system.. i wanna have that "uniqueness", like in BC or Wrath. Now, its all gone..
  1. holybernard's Avatar
    Hunter changes look pretty OP i like it.
  1. Caliph's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Lethizia View Post
    Nope, shadowpriest will be amazing with that new system, i promise. Anyhow, i dont like this system.. i wanna have that "uniqueness", like in BC or Wrath. Now, its all gone..
    How do you see priests being amazing every tier has the same talents we have now except that you can choose power infusion, some corny light ball, and the final tier is just a share damage thingie.

    i'm concerned about pvp here, none of that seems to match the rogue op'd changes, or the warlocks. and can that work against frost mages? gotta wait and see for the core specs to be sure.

    someone help me out here
  1. Derock's Avatar
    Lawl. TG fury with Bladestorm, Recklessness and Death Wish. Not to mention Disrupting Shout, Double Charge and Throwdown. Can't forget the Victory Rush every 30 seconds. Warriors are going to be pretty much unkillable with a semi-decent healer and will be dominating team fights with Death Storm. lool.
  1. Kromus!'s Avatar
    Man, I really love the warlock stuff. It feels like we have more custom stuff to do again. It's getting me really excited.
  1. Mandivh's Avatar
    OMG Warrior -> Cripple = Greatest Talent ever made. Yay god.
  1. psychok9's Avatar
    Please Blizzard, remove or update Moonkin form and I will love you forever!

    No news for Druid change? Shaman elemental pet?
  1. Masakrator666's Avatar
    Mages ..... Im lost for words ONE new or reworked talent ONE on FIRST tier.... great and exciting expansion it will be doing what we did for last 2 expansions EXACLY THE SAME WAY. Some class changes look awesome, locks, rogues nice fresh approach, opportunity to rediscover ways of playing class... mages... apart from polymorph which has NO use in raiding NOTHING CHANGED, i was very dissapointed going thru mage talents after seeing other classes changes first...And btw welcome in the World Of PokeCraft... FAIL
  1. bilkenter's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Masakrator666 View Post
    Mages ..... Im lost for words ONE new or reworked talent ONE on FIRST tier.... great and exciting expansion it will be doing what we did for last 2 expansions EXACLY THE SAME WAY. Some class changes look awesome, locks, rogues nice fresh approach, opportunity to rediscover ways of playing class... mages... apart from polymorph which has NO use in raiding NOTHING CHANGED, i was very dissapointed going thru mage talents after seeing other classes changes first...And btw welcome in the World Of PokeCraft... FAIL
    i share your pain bro checked lock talents they get new pets and so much more... MAGES GOT NOTTİNG AGAİN... ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab.... sick of this please sick of this
  1. arthar77's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Masakrator666 View Post
    Mages ..... Im lost for words ONE new or reworked talent ONE on FIRST tier.... great and exciting expansion it will be doing what we did for last 2 expansions EXACLY THE SAME WAY. Some class changes look awesome, locks, rogues nice fresh approach, opportunity to rediscover ways of playing class... mages... apart from polymorph which has NO use in raiding NOTHING CHANGED, i was very dissapointed going thru mage talents after seeing other classes changes first...And btw welcome in the World Of PokeCraft... FAIL
    hahahhahaah ... good job there blizz ... mages were too overpowered with two shields (frost mages) ... xD hahahha ...

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