Patch 4.3 - PTR Build 14942

Originally Posted by Ap0calypse

Just release the goddamn patch already, games boring as hell atm on live. People in my guild are playing the PTR more than they do live!

The longer they hold off releasing it the more likely people will cancel subs out of boredom.

And now they'll be bored with 4.3, gratz

Originally Posted by AK_47

If the Change Tol Barad achievement I see no reason why wintergrasp one didn't receive as much love ^^

Probably the same reason you didn't see heroic versions of Vanilla raids get released in WotLK... Old content is old.

Originally Posted by Halsynd

So queueing every 2-2:30 hours, praying on RNG you get in and PVPing for 15-30 minutes is hard work? whut?

OT: Elemental buff is needed but i doubt 4% will be enough, only time will tell...

OK so it seems like for someone like you been 24/7 online and queuing everytime isnt's a big deal.

Let's think for a while... 2-2h30 waiting for a match. 15-30min per match.

Winning 100 matches means 100x 15-30min and waiting for the in queue every 2-2h30.
In the best of scenarios: Playing (and winning) all 100 matches = 1500-3000min. Thats 25-50 hours non stop non sleep no bathroom no work no food (alright, maybe a drink). But hey, we're just counting the matches hours. Not the queue ones... Oh! The queue... let's talk about queue... you may queue, wait, and you might not get in, you know? If you dont get in, thats another 2-2h30 waiting... wasted.

Now the IFS:
IF YOU GET IN, then you have a chance to get credit (1/100)... but thats only... IF YOU WIN. But then again you'll lose IF YOU HAVE A BAD TEAM.

Tol Barad Veteran now requires players to win 25 battles in Tol Barad, down from 100.

FU Blizz... FU.

So, what is so special about TB that needs a 1/4 of veteran?

Why no nerf for WG, AV, WSG, AB and others Veteran's? How to fix now the inconsistency?

Why spit in the face of your customers Blizzard? Just did that crap achievement to finish it because I did WG one in WotLK... thanks a lot for saying that my time is not worth a !@#$ you now... it's only 100 victories... as if we all just need to join a TB battle 100 times and we would be done... not 150 or even more depending how your faction sucks at it... really thank you.

And screw ppl who are just showing up to troll saying it's just an achievement... if it's just an achievement, stop crying to nerf it... just don't do it.

Winning that crap place 100 times should become a Feat of Strengh (and patience).

Originally Posted by Chaosbubba

YAY they heard the ele sham cry!!!

Too little too late. We all rerolled.

4% is a joke.

I agree that nerfing the TB achievement to 1/4 of what it is at the moment is ridiculous. Maybe to 1/2 might be acceptable, but yea I feel I've wasted so much time grinding TB to 84/100. Also, why isn't the Wintergrasp achievement getting an update also then? Achievements points doesn't impact "old contents".

Originally Posted by Ap0calypse

Just release the goddamn patch already, games boring as hell atm on live. People in my guild are playing the PTR more than they do live!

The longer they hold off releasing it the more likely people will cancel subs out of boredom.

Quoted for truth!

I'll do you one better too. They should release MoP first half of next year at a minimum.

Originally Posted by VanishO2

So, what is so special about TB that needs a 1/4 of veteran?

Why no nerf for WG, AV, WSG, AB and others Veteran's? How to fix now the inconsistency?

Why spit in the face of your customers Blizzard? Just did that crap achievement to finish it because I did WG one in WotLK... thanks a lot for saying that my time is not worth a !@#$ you now... it's only 100 victories... as if we all just need to join a TB battle 100 times and we would be done... not 150 or even more depending how your faction sucks at it... really thank you.

And screw ppl who are just showing up to troll saying it's just an achievement... if it's just an achievement, stop crying to nerf it... just don't do it.

Winning that crap place 100 times should become a Feat of Strengh (and patience).

The problem with the TB achi is that its so server dependent, it could be kinda easy to do as alliance on one server but completly inpssoiuble to do it as horde on the same and vice versa. Just look at it this way, lets say you server has 75% horde and 25% ally (not that uncommon) and that u always win an offensive battle, then it would take the alliance guy about 200 TB battle to get the achi if u now get in in almost everyone, while at the same time would take the horde guy 600 battle just because he's unlucky and play on a server where there is more horde and more ppl that queue. So they had to fix it to actually make it possible for some ppl to achive. The other achi wont suffer the same way because youcould chain queue WSG etc.

About the ele buffs, pretty much takes us back to where we where in t12. Yes our t set t12 will be crap and we lose alot of dps on it, but as soon as we replace it with t13 will that dps lose be way smaller and we will be back in the middle pack of dpser.

To be fair, getting 100/100 in WG was much easier than with Tol Barad simply for the fact that it seemed like more people were doing it and due to there not being the auto balance thing. At least in my experience it was. I've found Tol Barad simply isn't ran very often across the 3 servers I have toons on. 25 does seem a little low though, 50 seems a bit more reasonable. But Tol Barad was a colossol failure overall lol.

How far is this patch >_>

Yet no Balance druid patchnotes....

We, balance druids, are getting the worst 4t13
Flash News: We have to cast one starsurge while in lunar eclipse, and we don't cast it in pre-solar because its damages sucks after all the ners we have received. That stupid spell doesn't even provide a reasonable amount of energy while not in eclipse to be even woth to be casted.
With 4t12 we cast a starsurge every ¬11sec (considering the procs from Shooting Stars).
With 4t13 we will cast a starsurge every ¬9sec.....this is barely a buff, epsecially compared to other classes' set bonuses

We can't top methers in single target fights if we can't cheat by dotting something else that doesn't need to be dotted
You said it's fine that way because we are hybrid and pures should do their job better...fine....We were renowned for our AoE capabilities.
Well....We will sucks in aoe fights because fire mages after all the buss to every spell (especially 100% more dot damages from Pyroblast!) are doing much more damages than us with their stupid one button Combustion

Talking about aoe damages...we have the clunkiest aoe in the whole game...our mushrooms waste 3 gcd for a 10sec cooldown ability and we have to waste 3 gcd to reposition them if the tank moves more than 6 fuckin yards.

What we got is a new graphic for hurricane, the less used spell in every fight
and a new animation for Wrath, one of the most casted spells during a fight...to bad that we have to give up the impact sound/animation.
Yet you haven't found time to draw a concept art for a new moonkin form in SIX years

Shamans lost 2t12 and got buffs to all their main nukes, and they benefit from that buff 100% of the time because they can keep casting while moving..Balance druids what are going to get to change eclipse faster ????? And what are we going to get to not destroy our poor single target dps every time a fight asks us to move and forbids us from casting our low dmg wrath / starsurge / looong cast time starfire ??

What about pvp fixes ? there are more Beast Mastery hunters than balance druids in PvP...but you showed us we will be fine in pvp.
in MISTS OF PANDARIA, Why the fuck should i pay 50$ to have my class fixed in pvp ? I'm a paying customer exactly like mages and dks and rogues.


Oh, don't forget to nerf the rogue legendary weapon because it is riddicolous that it increase sinister strike damages by 45% + the legendary proc.
It's like having 50% crit chance as a rogue. I don't thinnk that Dragonwrath has an effect that increase the main nuke of the wieleder bu 45% + the legenday proc.

Originally Posted by Nephyron

Oh, don't forget to nerf the rogue legendary weapon because it is riddicolous that it increase sinister strike damages by 45% + the legendary proc.
It's like having 50% crit chance as a rogue. I don't thinnk that Dragonwrath has an effect that increase the main nuke of the wieleder bu 45% + the legenday proc.

It increases SS dmg because daggers have a lower AP coefficient for instant attacks than other 1h's do. It just allows combat rogues to actually use the daggers instead of being forced into another spec.

The proc + the 10% AP buff will probably make rogues OP though.

The Ele Shaman buff only makes up for the Flametongue nerf. We're still going to lose the damage associated with the T12 2pc, which is much more.

391 rogues with the epic dagger are doin 43k single target compare to 35k done by others.

The only thing I want to hear about alchemy is that I can buy vial of the sands from a trainer!

That's some huge build just there...

still down....

nerf elemental shamans to the ground!

Love the TB achieve change