MMO-Champion - Patch 4.3 - PTR Build 14942
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Patch 4.3 - PTR Build 14942
A new minor build is being deployed on test realms today.

Client Strings
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
  • ARENA_MASTER_NO_SEASON_TEXT = "Arena battles and Rated Battlegrounds are only available during an active player versus player combat season. Season 11 will begin one week after the end of Season 10, so be prepared at that time to take your shot at glory!";
  • ERR_SOR_INVALID_COMMENT = "That comment has invalid characters.";
  • ERR_SOR_INVALID_EMAIL = "That email address is invalid.";
  • LFR_QUEUE_GROUP_INELIGIBLE = "Your group is not eligible to queue for any raids in Raid Finder.";
  • LFR_QUEUE_PLAYER_INELIGIBLE = "You are not eligible to queue for any raids in Raid Finder.";
  • NO_LFD_WHILE_RF = "You may not queue for a Dungeon while you are queued for a Raid.";
  • NO_LFR_WHILE_RF = "You may not list yourself in the Raid Browser while you are queued for a Raid.";
  • NO_RF_WHILE_LFD = "You may not queue for a Raid while you are queued for a Dungeon.";
  • NO_RF_WHILE_LFR = "You may not queue for a Raid while you are listed in the Raid Browser.";
  • RF_DESERTER_OTHER = "The following players in your group have recently deserted a group and may not yet queue again:";
  • RF_DESERTER_YOU = "You recently deserted a group and may not queue again for:";



Achievements Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Player vs. Player
Tol Barad
  • Tol Barad Veteran now requires players to win 25 battles in Tol Barad, down from 100.



Spell Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion

Shaman (Forums / Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)
Elemental
  • Shamanism now gives Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, and Lava Burst an additional 36% benefit from spell power, up from 32%.

Alchemy
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  1. Robet's Avatar
    Love the TB achieve change
  1. VanishO2's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Morningsan View Post
    The problem with the TB achi is that its so server dependent, it could be kinda easy to do as alliance on one server but completly inpssoiuble to do it as horde on the same and vice versa. Just look at it this way, lets say you server has 75% horde and 25% ally (not that uncommon) and that u always win an offensive battle, then it would take the alliance guy about 200 TB battle to get the achi if u now get in in almost everyone, while at the same time would take the horde guy 600 battle just because he's unlucky and play on a server where there is more horde and more ppl that queue. So they had to fix it to actually make it possible for some ppl to achive. The other achi wont suffer the same way because youcould chain queue WSG etc.

    About the ele buffs, pretty much takes us back to where we where in t12. Yes our t set t12 will be crap and we lose alot of dps on it, but as soon as we replace it with t13 will that dps lose be way smaller and we will be back in the middle pack of dpser.
    Ok, so, we all could argue that battlegroup X has a terrible time doing WSG (actually, my battleground is just like that, we got roflstomp in there so many times that I'm totally ok with now with my objective of 1 victory per week, lol) all day and that WSG achiev should be nerfed even with chain queue.

    WG was worse, nothing changed. Why was it worse? Because it started with no limit, then near the end, they implemented the player limit, so everyone who still needed their victories to get to 100 got screwed since now you have a lot of ppl trying it, but only a few slots to fill. I've been there, I know how I felt when I had to deal with that on top of the alread problematic 100 victories. Now imagine you finishing the achievement even with player limit and less ppl on your faction side, just to get it chopped to 25 2 weeks laters, that's TB. Great.

    As someone pointed out, it's a "useless" achievement. So no need to change it? If you're trying to finish it, you know what you're going up to, it's like farming the BG reps... I could just think about myself and say I would love some kind of nerf on those. Like the TB achievement, I know what I'm going to face if I decide to go for it.

    So, yes, I really feel it like a nice /slap or /spit in the face of a lot of their players, myself included since I finally finished it 1 week ago. "Há! Take that losers!". Changing it later in MoP... still not that nice, but we can all say "ok...", but still in the middle of the TB own expansion... /spit /slap in the face. My time is not worth anything in Blizzard's opinion.

    Should at least go to FoS section in my opinion for all the trouble they caused. You can't be Master of Tol Barad if someone else is "more veteran" than you, lol. Inconsistency. When you see "Veteran of" achievement, you know it's 100 victories... now I guess you don't anymore

    In MoP, if we ever get another place like that, should I go for the achievement or just wait to see if they feel like nerfing it? If they don't, I'm screwed for waiting til the end of the xpac to try the 100. Does not make sense any other new veteran achievement asking for 100 victories again.
  1. Effudin's Avatar
    This nerf of TB is overdoing it in my opinion.If we say the next patch comes in November/December, then it has had approximately 50 weeks since launch. Then 25 more weeks before the expansion, then it will be 75 weeks in total for this expansion. So nerfing it to 25 wins means that it is an achievement to log in every 3rd week and win TB. I think it should be doable to at least win TB once every week, since there is approximately 60-67 battles each week depending on server downtime.I don't mind it being nerfed to 75 though, since that is one win every week, which would be doable for anyone just wanting to go BH each week.
  1. infinitee's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by VanishO2 View Post
    Ok, so, we all could argue that battlegroup X has a terrible time doing WSG (actually, my battleground is just like that, we got roflstomp in there so many times that I'm totally ok with now with my objective of 1 victory per week, lol) all day and that WSG achiev should be nerfed even with chain queue.

    WG was worse, nothing changed. Why was it worse? Because it started with no limit, then near the end, they implemented the player limit, so everyone who still needed their victories to get to 100 got screwed since now you have a lot of ppl trying it, but only a few slots to fill. I've been there, I know how I felt when I had to deal with that on top of the alread problematic 100 victories. Now imagine you finishing the achievement even with player limit and less ppl on your faction side, just to get it chopped to 25 2 weeks laters, that's TB. Great.

    As someone pointed out, it's a "useless" achievement. So no need to change it? If you're trying to finish it, you know what you're going up to, it's like farming the BG reps... I could just think about myself and say I would love some kind of nerf on those. Like the TB achievement, I know what I'm going to face if I decide to go for it.

    So, yes, I really feel it like a nice /slap or /spit in the face of a lot of their players, myself included since I finally finished it 1 week ago. "Há! Take that losers!". Changing it later in MoP... still not that nice, but we can all say "ok...", but still in the middle of the TB own expansion... /spit /slap in the face. My time is not worth anything in Blizzard's opinion.

    Should at least go to FoS section in my opinion for all the trouble they caused. You can't be Master of Tol Barad if someone else is "more veteran" than you, lol. Inconsistency. When you see "Veteran of" achievement, you know it's 100 victories... now I guess you don't anymore

    In MoP, if we ever get another place like that, should I go for the achievement or just wait to see if they feel like nerfing it? If they don't, I'm screwed for waiting til the end of the xpac to try the 100. Does not make sense any other new veteran achievement asking for 100 victories again.
    Totally agree and may I add one more thing? People who approve this are just lazy. If it's just an achievement for you then simply don't do it. It's not like you gonna die if you don't have it. But for us, avid for achievements, this is really annoying. Waste of time we could be working on some other achievement we still don't have.
  1. Lethotix's Avatar
    yay for another build...wtb hunter fixes they mentioned BEFORE 5.0....oh well just have to deal with it /cry

    ---------- Post added 2011-11-04 at 05:16 AM ----------

    oh yea was gonna ask is there a condensed thread with all the changes in one place yet that i'm just not finding?
  1. sinplify's Avatar
    Now it might be possible to get the tol barad ach on stormscale as horde within a year or so...
  1. lukyl's Avatar
    Achieve change is bs.
  1. Lethotix's Avatar
    i must be missing something, our server has 1 horde for every 2.5 alliance and yet we win more than half the time...yes late night off hrs u see 1-2 horde and the cap of 5 alliance, not good odds, but soon as u get 5 people in on both sides its even and shouldn't be a prob to flip back and forth for the most part. all these arguments of "well my server its impossible to do we're out numbered 3 to 1" makes me wanna cry, but its also late, i must be missing someones point on how server imbalance is stopping you from getting an achievement when its an equal number battle...

    ----taking more Vicodin to make my post make more sense
  1. thehunta's Avatar
    . thx at least for the 4 % . i hope thats enough . muhahaha I has TB 27/100
  1. Airath's Avatar
    People will cry about anything these days.If you did TB just for the achievement and not for enjoyment, you have some attitude issues.
  1. Thallidomaniac's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Lethotix View Post
    i must be missing something, our server has 1 horde for every 2.5 alliance and yet we win more than half the time...yes late night off hrs u see 1-2 horde and the cap of 5 alliance, not good odds, but soon as u get 5 people in on both sides its even and shouldn't be a prob to flip back and forth for the most part. all these arguments of "well my server its impossible to do we're out numbered 3 to 1" makes me wanna cry, but its also late, i must be missing someones point on how server imbalance is stopping you from getting an achievement when its an equal number battle...

    ----taking more Vicodin to make my post make more sense
    Here's how it works. Basically, the 1:1 forced ratio means that both sides must have an equal number of people in Tol Barad games. Let's say that you're realm has a 20:1 Horde:Alliance ratio, or a population of 20,000 Horde to 1,000 Alliance. The certain number of Horde queuing will probably MUCH more than the number of Alliance queueing, making the Alliance queuing population the limiting factor. So basically let's say 5 Alliance guys, or 0.5% of the population get in, so only 5 Horde guys, or 0.025% of the population, can get in because of the 1:1 rule.

    In other words, if you're on the more-populated faction of an imbalanced server, your chances of even getting into TB games is much less compared to the other faction. The chances worsen the more unbalanced a realm is.
  1. Lemons's Avatar
    When the heck are we going to see some rogue changes? We still got nothin other than the wound poison buff...which was much appreciated, but it wasn't a rogue buff...just a blanket buff to all MS effects.
  1. venus's Avatar
    I really hope they change other battleground achievements to be 25 (or 50). Grinding is fine when its by yourself, but relaying on 9 to 39 other players to not be horrible is asking a lot some times.
  1. Raelbo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Thallidomaniac View Post
    Here's how it works. Basically, the 1:1 forced ratio means that both sides must have an equal number of people in Tol Barad games. Let's say that you're realm has a 20:1 Horde:Alliance ratio, or a population of 20,000 Horde to 1,000 Alliance. The certain number of Horde queuing will probably MUCH more than the number of Alliance queueing, making the Alliance queuing population the limiting factor. So basically let's say 5 Alliance guys, or 0.5% of the population get in, so only 5 Horde guys, or 0.025% of the population, can get in because of the 1:1 rule.

    In other words, if you're on the more-populated faction of an imbalanced server, your chances of even getting into TB games is much less compared to the other faction. The chances worsen the more unbalanced a realm is.
    So in other words when a realm population is grossly skewed in favour of one faction, that faction suffers as a result? In my book anything that encourages faction imbalances on a realm to rectify themselves is a good thing.
  1. Naibil's Avatar
    ...I wish they would do it with the Wintergrasp one as well.
  1. good diu bro's Avatar
    Mythical mana seems to be meaningless now even with the engineering gloves; guess its time to mass produce mighty rejuv
  1. VanishO2's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by infinitee View Post
    Totally agree and may I add one more thing? People who approve this are just lazy. If it's just an achievement for you then simply don't do it. It's not like you gonna die if you don't have it. But for us, avid for achievements, this is really annoying. Waste of time we could be working on some other achievement we still don't have.
    Not only that, but actually anything else away from the PC instead of trying to enter as many battles as possible.
  1. Powell's Avatar
    I sure theres more to Enhancement, if thats all they're thinking of doing for enhancement then i'm gonna be pissed. Its getting to a point where they are actually insulting shamans as a whole.

    "any change is better then no change" sure, but Theres been a severe lack of updates for Enhancement in particular for PvP
  1. tharis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Robet View Post
    Love the TB achieve change

    They have forgotten about Wintergrasp :S
  1. Bubblez's Avatar
    Gief Wintergrasp too! xD

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