MMO-Champion - WoW Down to 10.3M Subscribers, PTR Build 14966, Class Balance Q&A, TCG Art
WoW Lost 800k Subscribers, down to 10.3M
Activision Blizzard latest earning call revealed that World of Warcraft lost another 800,000 subscribers last quarter, following the loss of 300k subscribers announced last quarter and 600k loss from the quarter before that. This brings us to 1.7 million subscribers lost in the last 3 quarters. Some things they made note of on the call:


  • Most of the subscriptions were lost in China.
  • There is normally an increase in subscriptions around December.
  • The decreased profit came from all of the games in development and no launches occurring.
  • There will be at least two major releases next year.


Patch 4.3 - PTR Build 14966
A new PTR build is being deployed on test realms!
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Items
  • All replica armors from the Darkmoon Faire now require level 60 to be equipped.

Death Knight (Forums / Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)
  • Raise Ally now has a 40 yards range, up from 30 yards.

Mage (Forums / Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)

Paladin (Forums / Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)
  • Redemption now has a 40 yards range, up from 30 yards.

Tier 13

Priest (Forums / Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)

Shaman (Forums / Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)



Reminder: Class Design & Balance Q&A
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
To follow up on our first World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria developer Q&A on the CoverItLive platform, we’re gathering the entire class design team to field your questions on the past, present, and future of World of Warcraft classes. Anyone is welcome to join in the live Q&A this Wednesday, November 9, beginning at approximately 10:45 a.m. and concluding around noon PST.

You can read along via the CoverItLive client embedded below while the Q&A is live. To participate, you just use your Facebook, Twitter, Myspace, or OpenID credentials, or simply sign in as a guest. If you’re on the go while the event’s underway on Wednesday, be sure to check out the free mobile apps available on the Android Market and iTunes Store.

We’ll see you back here on Wednesday morning!

Brazilian Portuguese Language Availability
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
With the release of the next World of Warcraft content update, Hour of Twilight (patch 4.3), players on European realms will be able to play World of Warcraft in Brazilian Portuguese. On December 7 a realm dedicated to the Portuguese community will open with optional time-limited free character transfers from specific European English realms with high Portuguese populations. Please stay tuned to these forums for additional information.

Trading Card Game Art Gallery Update
The Trading Card game art gallery has been updated with ten new pieces.



This article was originally published in forum thread: WoW Down to 10.3M Subscribers, PTR Build 14966, Class Balance Q&A, TCG Art started by Boubouille View original post
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  1. Xatu's Avatar
    So most of the subscribers that left are from China. Could it be a protest against the Mists of Panderia expansion? I always thought China was against WoW with their idea of the Panderian race.
  1. PandarianLeakage's Avatar
    I wonder how much further this titanic will sink until it hits rock bottom
  1. lilbuddhaman's Avatar
    "Most"
    Most from Blizz = 10% or less

    ---------- Post added 2011-11-09 at 04:16 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitri View Post
    800,000 bitching, whining, "vanilla was best"-elitists gone. I shed a tear.
    Remember that when you follow us to the next big MMO, just for you to ruin that one too.
  1. Thetruth1400's Avatar
    I think the loss in numbers is a real telling thing. Yes, you can sit back and claim, "So what, I have fun and that's all that matters to me." If that's so, that's fine. What that massive loss represents though is customer dissatisfaction. Now it's very easy to sit back and make comments like, "Well, people just want to try new things" or "People just want to take a break", but what it represents is something much bigger. When a company can sit back and admit, "Hey, maybe these people are leaving for a reason" then do something about it, that's the sign of a truly great company.
  1. Shitcook's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by n0n3 View Post
    They got to 10mil subs but still it's 20 times more than any other MMO has atm, WoW it's far from dead, this game will live for many years to come, the only other mmo that will outreign wow it's gona be something made by blizz, titan maybe.
    Sorry m8 for bursting ur bubble , but even titan is bound to flat vs wow with that logic
  1. Dzudzadzo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kourvith View Post
    Did Blizzard really thought they would hold such astronomical subscription numbers forever, whatever they would do ?
    Yes it is very possible to do that. Think of the sport games like Fifa or Pro Evolution Soccer. Both of those franchises exist way over decade (Fifa 18 years, PES 10 years) Both of those games have basicly same core gameplay unchanged since the beggining only a few tweaks here and there just like WoW. Despite them being pretty much same game with only updated team roosters which could be done in DLC those games still stand strong and sell well despite them being soo much older? why? that's because:

    The very basic activity is fun despite it being old

    WoW can do that to. Except that their supposed fun activity is struggling with terrible community that they brew themselves through annonimity tools like LFD and name and shame policy.

    WoW isnt dying because of content or such. It pushes out more content that any MMO despite it having such old game engine. The very fundamental problem of WoW is that Blizzard socially engineered its player base to be much much worse.
  1. OriginZero's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by slackjawsix View Post
    they just got wotlk... they not anywhere near Mop
    They're actually almost caught up to us. They should be at 4.2 by now. I know they got up to 4.1 in China.
  1. Radefa's Avatar
    gonna be another mill lost when swtor comes out and not to mention MoP which looks like absolute shit and will net more losses.
  1. Shitcook's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by kagg View Post
    ok i'll start at the beginning of this.

    are you going to notice the loss player base? not really, dead servers will be offered free transfers to medium servers. Free character migrations will be offered, anyone remember those? i do.
    Now they have already introduce Guild transfair ?
    Hohoho , i dont think so !
    But atleast , i hope so too , for MoP World PvP
  1. CCloak's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorthalis View Post
    If you're playing on a Chinese subscription, you can't go and sell gold to your US/EU customers, now can you?

    This isn't bots that have been banned/quit.
    Some info:

    1. Classic and all Xpac packs are all free in taiwan and china servers, newcomers only need to pay subsciption fees to join.

    2. Taiwan servers have been conquered by chinese players since wrath, because chinese servers are running an xpac behind the rest of the world, currently china is on wotlk. Due to cultural differences, we generally consider chinese and taiwanese, different regions.

    3. For blizzard, taiwan is a region, china is a region, southeast asia is another region. For chinese cities like Hong Kong and Macau, Blizzard encourages them to play SEA if they want english games, or TW if they want chinese games. For WOW, HK and Macau is part of TW server service.

    4. In TW servers, there is a lot of bans recently that involves gold selling and account hacking. Basically anyone who is receiving a large amount of gold for no legit reason, would get them banned. Also in extreme, people who receive black gold (gold that is obtained illegally), even 1 copper from auction house, would result in first 7 days ban, followed by permanent ban. Thus, though there is still bot miners, it has decline compared to wrath.
  1. Gorthalis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by CCloak View Post
    Some info:

    1. Classic and all Xpac packs are all free in taiwan and china servers, newcomers only need to pay subsciption fees to join.

    2. Taiwan servers have been conquered by chinese players since wrath, because chinese servers are running an xpac behind the rest of the world, currently china is on wotlk. Due to cultural differences, we generally consider chinese and taiwanese, different regions.

    3. For blizzard, taiwan is a region, china is a region, southeast asia is another region. For chinese cities like Hong Kong and Macau, Blizzard encourages them to play SEA if they want english games, or TW if they want chinese games. For WOW, HK and Macau is part of TW server service.

    4. In TW servers, there is a lot of bans recently that involves gold selling and account hacking. Basically anyone who is receiving a large amount of gold for no legit reason, would get them banned. Also in extreme, people who receive black gold (gold that is obtained illegally), even 1 copper from auction house, would result in first 7 days ban, followed by permanent ban. Thus, though there is still bot miners, it has decline compared to wrath.
    If a significant portion of the lost subscribers were those who were banned, I think that Blizzard would have included that in their little fact list. It would have made the loss come off much better.

    It also seems absurd to me that there could be so many bans that it would amount to a number like, say, 100k in a quarter.
  1. chaos61988's Avatar
    ITS THE PANDAS!! nah jk.. actually..no; no im not. PANDAS!! oh yeah and people probably left because cata was crap too.
  1. darkchas's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by CCloak View Post
    Some info:

    1. Classic and all Xpac packs are all free in taiwan and china servers, newcomers only need to pay subsciption fees to join.

    2. Taiwan servers have been conquered by chinese players since wrath, because chinese servers are running an xpac behind the rest of the world, currently china is on wotlk. Due to cultural differences, we generally consider chinese and taiwanese, different regions.

    3. For blizzard, taiwan is a region, china is a region, southeast asia is another region. For chinese cities like Hong Kong and Macau, Blizzard encourages them to play SEA if they want english games, or TW if they want chinese games. For WOW, HK and Macau is part of TW server service.

    4. In TW servers, there is a lot of bans recently that involves gold selling and account hacking. Basically anyone who is receiving a large amount of gold for no legit reason, would get them banned. Also in extreme, people who receive black gold (gold that is obtained illegally), even 1 copper from auction house, would result in first 7 days ban, followed by permanent ban. Thus, though there is still bot miners, it has decline compared to wrath.
    China is on cata not wotlk...
  1. Shamslam's Avatar
    Not a shocker. A big drop off was bound to happen. It is hard to hold on to such a huge base. WoW isnt the only good game anymore. Video games in general have taken a big hit in sales. Strained economies could be a reason. Imo, subscription based gaming is a fast dying idea anyway.The loss of numbers most likely goes way past an actual problem with the game. Outside circumstances can have a huge effect.
  1. Acquiesce of Telara's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorthalis View Post
    If a significant portion of the lost subscribers were those who were banned, I think that Blizzard would have included that in their little fact list. It would have made the loss come off much better.
    Problem is, those banned accounts would have also counted as original subscription numbers. In other words, their subscribed population was lower than advertised... supposing they actually released sub numbers per region. For (fictitious) example, 2 million accounts in that region. 100k get banned. Well, the population was actually only 1.9 million to begin with, not the 2 million it was assumed to be.
  1. Tokas's Avatar
    blizz is sad panda now ^^
  1. Alayea's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyo032003 View Post
    Well I know why the most recent sub loss came in, Everyone has this "OMFG Blizz y r u copy Kung Fu Panda WoW is fer babiez nao I'mma cancelling my sub now kthxbai" attitude. So many people that don't understand that Pandaren were in WarCraft before Kung Fu Panda ever came out! Yes it was a joke then but technically PANDAREN WERE THERE FIRST. However, a lot of it probably has to do with the fact that the chinese people respect pandas like gods and would never consider them being violent ever. Its like putting Jesus in WoW as a playable character... anyway, a lot of people are also burned out and are going to other games... WoW will likely not have enough subs for Blizz to do another Xpac after MoP... They will probably end up doing a raid against Sargeras at the end of MoP the same way they tossed Sunwell on at the end of BC and call it the end of the warcraft storyline.
    Must... restrain... from... throttling...
  1. Kudos's Avatar
    It's bound to happen eventually. Wow has obviously peaked. It's hard to keep anyone interested in the same game for years on end, without the player getting bored or burnt out. Myself and some friends resubscribed for Cata, but apart from 2 people out of 15, all have quit the game again, and most are not interested in resubscribing for Pandaland. I personally left about 4 weeks ago because I wasn't having fun. I'm not sure how to quantify 'fun', but apart from leveling alts (I had 8 85's, an 82 and a 73) and doing 'mount runs' over and over, I was pretty bored.
  1. Yalingo's Avatar
    still no fix for the shitty boomkin 4pc.
  1. Phoenixy's Avatar
    I'd really like to know how many people plays with AION and RIFT, I don't know why they never tell it...

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