Mists of Pandaria Talent Calculator Now Available - New Skills Discovered!

Like mages need more abilities like that, sigh.

Looks really nice, cant wait to MoP!

Originally Posted by Karapoyraz

You first click on spec select and then 6 more time and your spec(!) is done. total 7 clicks. And you dont even have to go trainer to learn it. Some one remind me if this is a RPG game or console action game, i am a bit confused(!). i fail to see how selecting "flash freeze or black ice" makes you so fucking unique.

Please tell me what is unique about your spec now or any time in the past.

Clicking 70 times on talent "choices" does not make you Unique or make the game more fun. I hate clicking 51 times every time I respec, mostly picking up talents that you would have to be stupid to skip anyways.

Give me 6 tough choices instead of 45+ no brainers any day.

Also, MAJOR lol at people already complaining X tier for Y class pointless, stupid, or terrible, several months before the beta even begins when you have no clue how your class is changing.

BUT THEY HAVNT CHANGED ANYTHING SINCE THE BLIZZCON PREVIEW. THEY ARE CLEARLY FINISHED ALREADY. I am pretty sure they aren't even going to do a MOP beta honestly. They clearly have everything figured out perfectly already.

I do not understand the new DK ability. Do they not see how little locks use enslave demon? It's the same idea.

So far elemental shaman makes me wanna cry..4 realz

So.... ret/prot pala + enh/ele shaman + sp can rez people out of combat at lvl 12 or so, but boomkin/cat/bear druids can't at all. Only resto druid gets ooc rez at 16./boggle.

Originally Posted by Kuja

I hope control undead is not just a mind control copy, but makes the dominated creature follow you, just like a regular pet does. Hmm.. Might be too imba, unless only one pet is allowed at any time.

I'd assume it would work the same as Enslave Demon

And do you people even understand the new talent system vs the old?.. The old didn't have choice at all because every single person always took the same talents except for maybe a few so what's the point?? All blizzard did was merge those talents everyone took anyways so now you don't have to bother wasting any time clicking on them.. /facepalm

Symbiosis can copycat any deffensive cooldowns from ally party members? (like Anti Magic Shield,Vampiric Blood(!!!) or Bone Shield if you tank with Blood DK)
If so how it could mimic skills that requires shields?- which are most of the paly/warriors def cds...
Also does symbiosis based on the original cd or it has internal cd?

Do we need a calculator for this now?

Mage spell reminds me of DOTA's Nerubian Weaver.

Awesomeness.

Mages got the best and most OP one

Originally Posted by Toby451

Please tell me what is unique about your spec now or any time in the past.

Clicking 70 times on talent "choices" does not make you Unique or make the game more fun. I hate clicking 51 times every time I respec, mostly picking up talents that you would have to be stupid to skip anyways.

Give me 6 tough choices instead of 45+ no brainers any day.

Also, MAJOR lol at people already complaining X tier for Y class pointless, stupid, or terrible, several months before the beta even begins when you have no clue how your class is changing.

BUT THEY HAVNT CHANGED ANYTHING SINCE THE BLIZZCON PREVIEW. THEY ARE CLEARLY FINISHED ALREADY. I am pretty sure they aren't even going to do a MOP beta honestly. They clearly have everything figured out perfectly already.

Thank you. You saved me alot of typing

Originally Posted by Naphtha

Alter time is going to make mage flag grabbing a joke.

I wonder if they'll be able to cast Alter time somewhere outside the flag room, blink to the flag, grab, and be back where they cast Alter time, outside the flag room. Interesting to say the least. I haven't played my lock at all, does that portal thingy make you drop the flag? If it doesn't I guess it's basically the same thing.

Originally Posted by JackTheLad

Symbiosis can copycat any deffensive cooldowns from ally party members? (like Anti Magic Shield,Vampiric Blood(!!!) or Bone Shield if you tank with Blood DK)
If so how it could mimic skills that requires shields?- which are most of the paly/warriors def cds...
Also does symbiosis based on the original cd or it has internal cd?

It doesn't mimic *any* skill, it mimics one certain skill based on which class you choose to cast on and what spec you are.

So from a DK a tank druid might get death and decay, a cat druid might get howling blast, a moonkin might get death coil, and so forth. In return a DK tank might get a druid's barkskin etc etc

Originally Posted by JackTheLad

Symbiosis can copycat any deffensive cooldowns from ally party members? (like Anti Magic Shield,Vampiric Blood(!!!) or Bone Shield if you tank with Blood DK)
If so how it could mimic skills that requires shields?- which are most of the paly/warriors def cds...
Also does symbiosis based on the original cd or it has internal cd?

the tooltip says it gives both the druid and the target a spell based on there class and spec, wich strongly suggest that the ability's you gain/take wil always be the same, otherwise you could get worthless ability's ( shield wall as druid for example as you said)
i am thinking more things like divine protection/last stand

Originally Posted by dumkin

Thank you. You saved me alot of typing

No kidding.. People don't understand you have more combinations now vs before.. They just see a smaller "Tree" and QQ before actually looking into how the system has changed.

Originally Posted by Glencar

List of killed warrior talents (or abilities that have not been baked into others):
- Deep wound
- Retaliation
- Field dressing
- Impale
- Deadly calm (current design, they just kept the name and basically killed the talent)
- Blood Frenzy
- Blitz
- Skirmisher (HL on 1 min CD for every spec)
- Die by the sword
- Executioner
- Rampage
- Intensify rage
- Blood Craze
- Battle trance (a 15% chance to get free HS every 3 sec is replaced by 3 free HS on 2 minute CD. Yeay)
- Incite
- Shield Mastery (especially 20% magic damage reduction for 6 sec while SB active)
- concussion blow (probably replaced by TD meaning no PH to kite mobs)
- Hold the line
- Safeguard
- Vigilance
- Rallying cry

New talents
- Wild Strike

Changes
- Fear on 1 minute CD and MS/BS and SS generate rage

The good news might be: they haven't been over warrior talents, yet.

Bad news: looking at the tiny changes, they seem to have...

Warriors are not finished - several of their abilities have a rage cost of 80. However, considering half the abilities you listed are +X% static uninteresting effect, most of those will probably stay removed. Stuff like Vigilance, Rallying Cry, and others could stay.

Another part of the stuff you listed is irrelevant. For example, Shield Mastery was completely baked into another ability except the magic part which no longer makes any sense because Shield Block is a zero cooldown ability that only blocks one attack now.

Worst talent calculator ever. This is probably the most basic version of talents that any game has ever seen. What a joke.

People realy need to stop their, Blizzard suck, dont care about us, dont know shit attitude. Its a very simple reason theyre put out these changes this early, even if its not done, THEY want feedback, so instead of bein so negative and that the world is going to go under cause of these changes, try to give them some useful feedback. Theyre tryin out something new, yes I agree it might be a bit simple with the new talents, but then again, I spend 99% of my time on the encounters, not concerned about my talents now, why should that differ if they would add 10 new talents to the old system? Always some talents that beats others, no matter if its movement or dmg, most likely ppl will choose the dmg ones since the movement part is easly solved by approaching the encounter in a diffrent way. So stop bitching around and actually give them some real feedback why you think your new stuff is bad, and what they could do to make it better, I assure you they will listen more to a constructive post of feedback, than, oh now its easier than before, i will go play rift cya...After all, theyre here to make money and with 5.0 they try to change the approach a bit, its a long time until its live, alot of changes will be done, if you feel something is wrong and could be made better, explain to them in examples on their forums and group up and im sure they will consider it and see if its doable. Personally I think the mage talents are a bit to much PVP focused. But then again, u cant get everything in life, so I guess i suck it up and do the best of it.

Originally Posted by Calon

Worst talent calculator ever. This is probably the most basic version of talents that any game has ever seen. What a joke.

Because the old system had more choice right?? Yeaaaaa