Raid Finder Loot Exploit Suspensions, Paragon Apology

Raid Finder Loot Exploit Suspensions
Blizzard finally commented on the Raid Finder Loot exploit resultingin multiple accounts suspensions in a lot of guilds.
Originally Posted by Bashiok (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Shortly after patch 4.3 was released, we became aware that some players were abusing an exploit to obtain loot from the same Raid Finder bosses multiple times in a single raid lockout period (one week). The Raid Finder loot mechanic is of course intended to only allow a person to roll on boss loot drops once per raid lockout period. The raid lockout mechanic has been a mainstay of the World of Warcraft rules since Onyxia and Molten Core, ensuring that no one can obtain loot from a boss more than once per lockout. Due to the nature of the exploit and the clear intent of those who abused it, they've been issued notices and given temporary suspensions from the game. We’re also working to remove all Raid Finder items from those who used the exploit.

It's also worth noting that Paragon posted an apology on their website

An LFR Apology
There has been a lot of misinformation going around, so to clear things up, here is a truthful account of what exactly happened with the LFR and what we have to say about it:

The patch hit EU servers on Wednesday. We started off with our 5x Firelands runs to wrap up legendaries and called it a night. For Thursday, we had an elaborate plan to run a personal LFR raid for every main character to get the maximum amount of loot.

As we were doing the first few runs, we noticed an unrealistic amount of tier pieces on some guilds' armory profiles, which we thought was unattainable through normal means. We started looking into it, and found out that you can loot passed gear from bosses, regardless of save status, if you zone out and back into the instance. This did not provide the raid with any extra loot, but it did eliminate a major portion of the RNG that would have been involved in simply doing personal runs for everyone.

We acknowledge that using this unintended behavior, which was quite clearly a bug, to our gain, was wrong. The fact that others were using it as well is no justification for doing it ourselves. We apologize for doing it, and accept whatever consequences follow.
This article was originally published in forum thread: Raid Finder Loot Exploit Suspensions, Paragon Apology started by Boubouille View original post
Published on 2011-12-06 07:28 PM
488 Comments
Comments 480 Comments
  1. ohmygosh's Avatar
    Yeah, typical "WE DID IT BECAUSE THEY DID IT FIRST"
  1. mmoc6765cb3ae1's Avatar
    Maybe if they issued the apology before they got banned it would have sounded more sincere. In fact if they didn't bother trying to game the system in the first place I would think more of them.
  1. Bahska's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Awfulx View Post
    Hopefully this knocks Paragon out of world firsts in every way shape and form. They knew they were cheating.
    I don't see that happening, especially considering they weren't the only top guild who were exploiting and have received temp bans.
    Either way no guild was gonna beat this tier in a week.
  1. Seregon's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by dharock View Post
    can anybody explain to me the gain to replace 397 ilvl with 384 beside getting new tier ?
    Some of the new set bonuses are hilariously over powered.
  1. Lapetos's Avatar
    Similar quotes to "they should of known better", they clearly state that already. Also they say they must suffer the consequences... So why the hell peeps are commenting on them facts I don't know.... get over it, they've said they did wrong, and are doing the time for the crime... just get on with your day now
  1. lkonig's Avatar
    Paragon players should have the gear removed from each toon that received it. They all should receive at least a 1 week ban and any worlds 1st should aslo go bye bye.They knew they were using a glitch in the game to gain gear unfarely.
  1. Venteus's Avatar
    Couldn't care less about Paragon. I've lost any respect I had for them, too many of their world firsts have been under fishy circumstances, and after this it's clear they would do anything, regardless of how unfair it is to the rest of the playerbase, for their own selfish obsession. I truly hope this destroys any chance they had of getting world first this cycle.
  1. Sarahstrasza's Avatar
    ANYBODY would say they were sorry once they got caught. So much for firsts... Safe to assume they most likely cheat at all of that too.
  1. Vampiroth's Avatar
    @dharock, set bonuses and trinkets mainly.
  1. qwikz's Avatar
    No need trying to save face paragon, youre now branded as cheaters
  1. Areden's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by dharock View Post
    can anybody explain to me the gain to replace 397 ilvl with 384 beside getting new tier ?
    Because some of the t13 sets have more gem slots insane stats and very very good set bonuses.
  1. mmoc7ad811c741's Avatar
    whaha, Paragon can't be world first without cheating. Sad. At least they can have fun irl now
  1. jries's Avatar
    Oh look, Paragon exploited again, what a surprise.
  1. Maximus4004's Avatar
    Alot of people forget that the week off from jobs the guild members applied for was the week that they were banned. It will not only set them back the 8 days of the lockout, it will mess with the RL of many of their players who took the wrong week off for competetive raiding(most employers wont let you just switch weeks because you were banned), I will be completely surprised if any of those guilds catch up and break top 10. Unless the stuff is just ludicrously difficult.
  1. baambaam's Avatar
    at least they have a social week now
  1. ABog's Avatar
    Why post the apology? If you can run 5 FLs then run 5 DSs. Blood Legion front page go!
  1. Garrikk's Avatar
    I still love you Paragon! Also, fuck KU!
  1. Grignartoht's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kildex View Post
    no1 cares about paragon's sorry ass. They have to stop sucking blizzards ass and see the consequents of their action.It's the most cheaty sneaky guild. They are ruining the worlds first competition with their alt raids, class stacking ect.Imo they should ban paragon permentely!
    You hit the nail on the head.
  1. Prxy's Avatar
    All I got from this was:

    Dear Community,

    Sorry we got caught.

    - Paragon
  1. Omina's Avatar
    Those 4 paragraphs from Paragon can be summed up with four words, "Sorry we got caught"
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