Items - New Class Restrictions 12/13/2011

Update - The Community Managers also posted about this change.
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
As a part of the on-going evaluation of Looking For Raid and the loot system, we have recently implemented a change to the Looking For Raid Need Plus system. Weapons, trinkets, rings, neck pieces, shields, offhand items, and the Robe of Glowing Stone are now class-restricted to their intended users. With the speed at which a Raid Finder group moves through a zone, we’ve found that it makes it challenging for players to evaluate loot decisions – by class restricting these items, we hope that the natural behavior will have a more positive set of results for everyone involved. This change will not apply to normal or heroic raid or dungeon loot rules.

Raid Finder and Need Plus are both very new systems, and we’re working to iterate on these systems rapidly to ensure that everyone has the best possible experience as we learn more about how players are using the system. Please keep in mind that this system is not considered complete and we have further plans to improve upon it within Mists of Pandaria.

If you looted an item from Looking for Raid which replaced another and you need Game Master assistance to recover your old item, please place a petition with the new item name, that you can no longer use it - and the old item name you need restored. For more information on the affected items, please visit the Customer Support forums here- http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3729953854#1

We apologize for the inconvenience.

Items - New Class Restrictions 12/13/2011
You might have noticed strange behaviors with some of your newly acquired items and some people posted about changes on the forums today, the official explanation appeared on the Customer Support forums!
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker)
Some items were recently reclassified. You may find yourself in possession of one of these items and are no longer able to use it.

If this item replaced another and you need Game Master assistance to recover your old item, please place a petition with the new item name, that you can no long use it - and the old item name you need restored.

The following are the items that have changed with new/changed class restrictions (LFR Versions).

Weapons

Trinkets

Shields


Rings

Offhand

Neck

Chest
This article was originally published in forum thread: Items - New Class Restrictions 12/13/2011 started by Boubouille View original post
Published on 2011-12-13 08:49 PM
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  1. Suspicious's Avatar
    "Robe of Glowing Stone - Priest"HAH! Take that you a**hole mages!
  1. similarion's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Jayden View Post
    Off spec need rolling is perfectly fine.
    It is not fine when there are others that need it for main spec.
  1. Panjier's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Jayden View Post
    Off spec need rolling is perfectly fine.
    Not till they fix the role bonus. Saw a ret pally win the healing shield last night because h got the role bonus when he shouldn't have.
  1. petre's Avatar
    Sure, they could have implemented the bonus rolls differently so people could use less than ideal pieces that no one else needs (off-hand for paladin healers, reforged spirit gear to replace a crafted, etc) but heck, why pass up a chance to generate more qq and alienate even more of the player base when that's so much easier!
  1. Falled09's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by darkthunder View Post
    Why? Shamans and Paladins are designed to use Shields in off-hand (always have).
    Only benefit to having a shield is armor. I'm not normally tanking as a holy paladin in my DS runs. Are you?
  1. mmoc6af618f320's Avatar
    Well step to the right direction I say.
  1. Strafer's Avatar
    Thank you based Blizzard.
  1. Vargas's Avatar
    So glad that Blizzard isn't waiting to address this. I lost a melee dps trinket last week to a huntard, who then tried to sell it to the group. My face still has a mark on it cause I facepalmed so hard.
  1. xstaindx's Avatar
    Seal of Primordial Shadow - Druid , Hunter , Shaman, Rogue

    NO BLIZZ. JUST NO. HUNTERS DONT WANT EXPERTISE. :/
  1. Kazen's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by similarion View Post
    Doesn't fix the problem with people ninja-ing stuff for off-specs?
    I've been following MMO-Champion for a year now, but never actually made an account untill now, just to comment on this post.
    Nevertheless, this is not the point of my reply, my reply is below;

    You're completely correct in regards to this. By giving the loot roll bonus to people in off-spec is most certainly unfair, and will result in an unjust enrichment. That happened to me last week in the Fall of Deathwing LFR. The two-handed sword dropped off Deathwing, and a Protection Warrior needed it; which he later gave to his Blood Death Knight friend, even though the Death Knight lost the roll. My point being here, supporting yours; is that the loot roll bonus should be fixed, so that people currently in off-spec, cannot exploit the system.

    I opened a ticket about this matter; and the answer I got was that a team at Blizzard was doing everything to improve the LFR system, and its looting rules. They did not answer on my question directly, but rather gave the previously mentioned answer.

    This broken mechanic beats the whole purpose of doing the LFR raids, when a group of people can team up, need on a certain item; and then give it to his/her friend. Hopefully this will get fixed soon.
  1. mmoc19d4ea8031's Avatar
    boomkins can still roll with bonus on agi polearms, but its a start. Mages rolling on spirit is just annoying.
  1. kerghan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by darkthunder View Post
    It's not just the armor. It's the "aesthetic", i.e the LOOK your character has overall.

    TL;DR: Grab the shield, and leave the off-hand items for those it's meant for.

    Healing off-hand classes that are not shaman / paladin: Cannot use shields
    Healing shields: only usable by paladins / shamans

    Ergo the shield is yours, and keep your grubby paws off my offhand
  1. Xeraxis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by xstaindx View Post
    Seal of Primordial Shadow - Druid , Hunter , Shaman, Rogue

    NO BLIZZ. JUST NO. HUNTERS DONT WANT EXPERTISE. :/
    Even with Expertise it's an upgrade over 378 rings until they get something better. Plus Expertise can be reforged to something more useful. Should they need on it? Not if there is somewhere there who would benefit but if not an upgrade is an upgrade.
  1. Dimz's Avatar
    This is good, it will bring a fix the Diablo "click on every sinlge item that drops" mentality. Now let's see how long it will take to be only able to roll for items for your spec and (my favorite) NOT be able to roll if you have won the iitem before.. yes I am talking about the helm/shoulders for off-spec!
  1. willowe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaulien View Post
    I would like to know how it's about SOULDRINKER?
    Is it considered as tanking weapon or dps weapon? Because honestly draining hp is more for tanks, BUT last week some dps won the roll WITH role bonus in LFR.
    I am confused, any ideas?
    Note:

    Souldrinker is BiS for Frost DKs for each tier of DS difficulty.

    It's odd, i know, but this confirms, our BiS Frost is Souldrinker. Nice to have that there

    And btw, the proc DAMAGES for 1.3% of our HP AND heals for x2 that amount. So it's also a dps boost.

    And before any tanks get their underwear in a knot: think about it. Currently 1H Swords/Maces get itemized with parry/dodge and are used by a whopping 2 (yes two!) specs in alllll of WoW. By adding Frost DKs and (possibly, not sure about this one) SMFury Warriors to the mix it's still only 4 specs! Compare that with say, oh I dunno, a Int Staff that how many specs would roll on?

    It's smart. They already fail at making good looking gear (c'mon Souldrinker looks very similar to a 2H ICC Sword!) so to ask them to make one for ever spec is lol
  1. Armath's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by darkthunder View Post
    Why? Shamans and Paladins are designed to use Shields in off-hand (always have).
    If that were true then why are they even able to use off-hands?

    OT: Good changes
  1. Monkiy's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaulien View Post
    I would like to know how it's about SOULDRINKER?
    Is it considered as tanking weapon or dps weapon? Because honestly draining hp is more for tanks, BUT last week some dps won the roll WITH role bonus in LFR.
    I am confused, any ideas?
    Unless you're an Orc and get the racial bonus wielding Hand of Morchok, wielding Souldrinkers will be BiS for Frost Death Knights and I believe SMF Warrior's (may be incorrect about SMF, feel free to correct). The proc rate on the drain has been proved to be a greater DPS gain than the static stats. In this case the weapon is versatile and is useful to both roles.

    (Quote in regards to Paladin's being excluded in the off-hand class restrictions.)
    Quote Originally Posted by meroko View Post
    Why? The shield is better anyway lol
    The shield may be better, but that doesn't mean it can't be an upgrade in the mean time until you see the shield drop. Personally, I see no reason why Paladin's shouldn't be allowed to equip an off-hand item.
  1. Ineras's Avatar
    Not sure if this is a side effect to this change they just did, but I did not get the roll bonus on Ledger of Revolting Rituals as a shadow priest. Did the system forget that +spirit can be main spec for hybrids?
  1. Falled09's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by kerghan View Post
    Healing off-hand classes that are not shaman / paladin: Cannot use shields
    Healing shields: only usable by paladins / shamans

    Ergo the shield is yours, and keep your grubby paws off my offhand
    If only the shield had a socket, then I would.
  1. mmoc8eb592856e's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by similarion View Post
    It is not fine when there are others that need it for main spec.
    Jesus christ.. It's LFR and you can complete first 4 bosses almost just by auto-following someone, if you really want the gear do normals.
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