MMO-Champion - Items - New Class Restrictions 12/13/2011
Update - The Community Managers also posted about this change.
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
As a part of the on-going evaluation of Looking For Raid and the loot system, we have recently implemented a change to the Looking For Raid Need Plus system. Weapons, trinkets, rings, neck pieces, shields, offhand items, and the Robe of Glowing Stone are now class-restricted to their intended users. With the speed at which a Raid Finder group moves through a zone, we’ve found that it makes it challenging for players to evaluate loot decisions – by class restricting these items, we hope that the natural behavior will have a more positive set of results for everyone involved. This change will not apply to normal or heroic raid or dungeon loot rules.

Raid Finder and Need Plus are both very new systems, and we’re working to iterate on these systems rapidly to ensure that everyone has the best possible experience as we learn more about how players are using the system. Please keep in mind that this system is not considered complete and we have further plans to improve upon it within Mists of Pandaria.

If you looted an item from Looking for Raid which replaced another and you need Game Master assistance to recover your old item, please place a petition with the new item name, that you can no longer use it - and the old item name you need restored. For more information on the affected items, please visit the Customer Support forums here- http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3729953854#1

We apologize for the inconvenience.

Items - New Class Restrictions 12/13/2011
You might have noticed strange behaviors with some of your newly acquired items and some people posted about changes on the forums today, the official explanation appeared on the Customer Support forums!
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker)
Some items were recently reclassified. You may find yourself in possession of one of these items and are no longer able to use it.

If this item replaced another and you need Game Master assistance to recover your old item, please place a petition with the new item name, that you can no long use it - and the old item name you need restored.

The following are the items that have changed with new/changed class restrictions (LFR Versions).

Weapons

Trinkets

Shields


Rings

Offhand

Neck

Chest
This article was originally published in forum thread: Items - New Class Restrictions 12/13/2011 started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 265 Comments
  1. Kayman's Avatar
    WOW it must be nice to ba a paladin ... can roll more than half all the loot
  1. Dsm's Avatar
    Prot warrior just ninja'd Gurthalak, Voice of the Deeps.He respecced fury before rolling.GJ blizz, well done indeed.FU
  1. ffaorlandu's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Haajib View Post
    dammit, !!!!! And i wanted souldrinker for transmorgification on my hunter

    ---------- Post added 2011-12-14 at 01:42 PM ----------


    Dammit, and i wanted the sword for transmogicifation
    You can still loot the normal versions, this was just for Raid Finder items.
  1. solvent's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by PopeJamal View Post
    Look on the bright side. One thing to remember is that even if the DK had a "better" chance of winning the roll because his warrior friend was willing to help him out, it didn't make your chance to win the roll any less likely. You still have a 1/X chance to win the roll regardless of how many people "team up".

    I know it's not much, but it's better than nothing. At the very least, Blizz is demonstrating their willingness to apply a partial, "band-aid" fix until a more robust rolling system can be deployed in 5.0.
    Completely false. If the warrior were to be locked out of the role bonus because he was there as a tank then your odds go from 1/x to 1/(x-1). If there had been a bigger "team" of tanks/healers then the odds you win improve even more.
  1. mosene's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dsm View Post
    Prot warrior just ninja'd Gurthalak, Voice of the Deeps.He respecced fury before rolling.GJ blizz, well done indeed.FU
    Ahhahaha.... total warriar pwnage
  1. Jasper Kazai's Avatar
    Finally. I saw a fury warrior win the polearm AND the bow in one fell swoop. What a dick. Also, that same fury warrior won plate DPS shoulders over me on my warrior and he already had tier... I wish there was some kind of upgrade checker, too. But that's just asking for too much. People need to stop being dicks, is all.
  1. BondGirl's Avatar
    Nice to see Blizz acting fast on this (tho full 5 stars would have given if that would have been going live from start). But since I lost agi items to dks I made some qq tickets. Cheer up
  1. Higg's Avatar
    a lot of improvements here but a long ways to go, also.

    they should correct the stats on the healing shield so that it's in line with the off-hand.

    they should adjust the stats on the agi/exp ring so that it's not good for a hunter to grab

    but this is still a leap in the right direction
  1. miracles's Avatar
    I see by all these posts , that it can't be only blizzards fault , its how people deside they want to treat other people. When i go for LFR, i pass on everything i cant use , only need on what i can use. I guess this is the answer on, why I haven't won anything yet then :P But I wont go and do what some think is cool just to get loot, I guess at a point the roll will get my way for a loot too, and a loot I can use
  1. Greywardenn's Avatar
    Would love to see Rolls of Need based on Primary Stats as well as Roles (Int, Spirit, Str, Agi), ie Fury Warrior not being able to roll on a caster trinket simply because he is a DPS. Also,....the number one thing that I think would help tremendously in Loot distribution and just the overall improvement of players is a DPS/HPS threshold. I find it pretty ridiculous that the LFR is supposed to simulate a raiding environment but people that are pulling WOTLK numbers are winning loot. When was the last time people got rewarded for being terrible in a raid or in general, lol? If you gave a threshold it would make people research their class and learn as much about them as possible so that when they come into LFR they're actually competitive, this would also put an immediate stop to ppl that literally go AFK the whole fight and just wait until the end to ninja some loot.
  1. Black Pearl's Avatar
    Issue still isn't fixed. Balance druids winning agility stuff.
  1. lakhesis's Avatar
    Definitely an improvement, but it seems like they've gone a step too far imo.The obvious example being shamans & paladins apparently now having to use (inferior) shields, and all the BiS-at-that-ilvl "healer" loot that shadow/elemental/balance are locked out of (and yet the ele/boomkin can still roll on agi items lol). I suppose it's better than it was but it seems like a swing from not-far-enough to too-far.
  1. TowerTom's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Greywardenn View Post
    Would love to see Rolls of Need based on Primary Stats as well as Roles (Int, Spirit, Str, Agi), ie Fury Warrior not being able to roll on a caster trinket simply because he is a DPS. Also,....the number one thing that I think would help tremendously in Loot distribution and just the overall improvement of players is a DPS/HPS threshold. I find it pretty ridiculous that the LFR is supposed to simulate a raiding environment but people that are pulling WOTLK numbers are winning loot. When was the last time people got rewarded for being terrible in a raid or in general, lol? If you gave a threshold it would make people research their class and learn as much about them as possible so that when they come into LFR they're actually competitive, this would also put an immediate stop to ppl that literally go AFK the whole fight and just wait until the end to ninja some loot.
    I approve of this.
  1. ro9ue's Avatar
    I saw 2 NoKalds drop and both being won by a DK. I wasn't even playing my shaman or rogue, but I felt bad for them. This is a great change imo. GJ blizz
  1. Keleri's Avatar
    This is a great step. Not quite perfect yet since we'll still see boomkins taking agi stuff, paladin dps taking healer stuff etc. but a huge step in the right direction.
  1. Borzo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by similarion View Post
    Doesn't fix the problem with people ninja-ing stuff for off-specs?
    How do you know it wasn't for their main spec?
  1. Reqq's Avatar
    Had 2 [Eye of the Unmaking] trinkets drop tonight. Same DK won both of them, then said "Ok whisper me offers on trinket".

    ....
  1. zrankfappa's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Jasper Kazai View Post
    People need to stop being dicks, is all.
    that will never happen ...
  1. Rabioso's Avatar
    Well, I like it overall, but, don't Warriors need something to put in their ranged/thrown slot? Oh well. I praise Blizzard for making these changes, this has never happened to me, but it sounds needed. Yay, increased odds for Kiril! Feral Druids for the win!
  1. Mort459's Avatar
    Kind of disagree with Robe of Glowing Stone being Priest only... With 3 red sockets and that socket bonus + reforging, that is a STUPID huge upgrade for a mage or warlock over ANY 378 gear. Plus, all 3 classes are gonna place it with tier eventually, I'd assume, so it's silly that it's limited to one class.


    That said, this should solve the problem as much as is possible at the moment. I'm sure they'll add the "highest attribute" thing, OR have people queue as "Int DPS" or "Agi DPS" in LFR in mists, but I believe them when they say this is impossible or too difficult at the moment.

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