Patch 4.3 - PTR Build 15176

Where did the Boomkin T13 buff go? D:

Can you say Hunter buff? BA got a huge buff(Moar LnL!) and 700 AP is pretty important as well...plus, Deterrence is somewhat feasible now.

Completely unnecessary nerf to Fire mages. I guess it's too much for some people to handle that Mages could show up as two potential specs and churn out similar DPS.

Originally Posted by greyghost

Completely unnecessary nerf to Fire mages. I guess it's too much for some people to handle that Mages could show up as two potential specs and churn out similar DPS.

Mage tears so sweet.

I thought they were taking Arcane Shot off the LnL proc! Where did that go?!

What does the 6, 3% mean? When I last checked here it was 6% for both Pyroblast and Fireball, but now it shows 6, 3% for Fireball and 6, 2% for Pyroblast. Is this just a typo?

Originally Posted by Rayne13

What does the 6, 3% mean? When I last checked here it was 6% for both Pyroblast and Fireball, but now it shows 6, 3% for Fireball and 6, 2% for Pyroblast. Is this just a typo?

Probably European notation, should be 6.3% and 6.2% respectively.

Originally Posted by dizzzave

Probably European notation, should be 6.3% and 6.2% respectively.

"should" that's implying that the other is wrong, either way is correct

If I'm reading the notes correctly, it appears that the cast time on using the wand has gone UP to 0.5 sec, not down to instant. That's what the tool-tip hover seems to imply anyway.

The morchock change isn't a nerf, just a tooltip fix.

The mage nerfs are obviously correcting the over-buff they got in 4.3, 17% increase i believe it was.

Someone said something about wands being an instant, but much like multishot before Cata, it is instant, but it has a short cast time so you can't use it while moving.

The black arrow buff was just to give it priority over explosive trap for single target fights, and it didn't increase the dmg, just gives it more chances to proc LnL.

Those numbers don't seem right though for Fireball and Pyroblast, Firball definitely DOESN'T have a 1.5 second cast, and Pyroblast DOESN'T have a 5 seconds cast.

Originally Posted by greyghost

Completely unnecessary nerf to Fire mages. I guess it's too much for some people to handle that Mages could show up as two potential specs and churn out similar DPS.

Poor fire mages, they're not the strongest single-target and strongest AOE spec in the game now. It's so unfair!

love BM getting a buff for hunters! BM gets so overlooked. play the spec you enjoy.

Originally Posted by Strafer

Wands are already instant.

Wants, and throw/gun/bow attacks (except for hunters) had a 0.5 delay. Not a cast time, but you had to stand still that amount of time before a missile was fired. It was really stupid, not worth whining about on the forums, but should have been fixed loooong ago (especially for warrior tanks prior to heroic throw)

EDIT: Maybe I misunderstood, you probably were just pointing out that the change is old news.

Did they decide not to make the Vengeance change? I don't see anything about it in this listing.

Originally Posted by Dunee

"should" that's implying that the other is wrong, either way is correct

Indeedy, indeedy, well said.

Well the mage nerf is hardly surprising, must be some other classes worth checking out.

So Stomp does less damage on 25 man normal than heroic? I think there's a problem there

The Morchok change isn't a tooltip fix, it changes the mechanic. However, I don't believe anyone takes a double share of the damage on 10 or 25 normal difficulty. Or am I mistaken?

Mage (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)Fire•Fireball damage has been reduced by 6,3%•Pyroblast damage has been reduced by 6,2%why is it 6,3 do they mean 6.3? do they mean it was 6 now its 3? if it is infact 6.3 and 6.2 why did they get every other classes numbers correct with the decimal point and messed up on BOTH of ours. i highly doubt it's a typo... anyone know what this means?

Originally Posted by Pfeff

So Stomp does less damage on 25 man normal than heroic? I think there's a problem there

Yep it does less! But for a good reason...

It does less dmg because it's split between only half of the raid...since you have to deal with Morchok AND his twin - so it's actually MORE dmg split between fewer players.