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Patch 4.3.2 Release Date Update
The status of the patch is still unsure, the whole situation is most likely the reason why the US Maintenance got cancelled and then moved to Wednesday.

The patch files are available on the download servers and things look somewhat ready but at this point it seems that the patch will only go live next week. The EU maintenance wasn't moved to Thursday and I don't think Blizzard plans to deploy a patch on both continents on the same day, even if it's a small one.


Statistics: Heroic Madness of Deathwing Class Representation
Continuing our ongoing statistics posts, today we look at class representation for characters that have completed Heroic Madness of Deathwing. As always with this type of post, the sample size is fairly small; less than 100 guilds have completed the encounter so far.

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Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Blue Post Replies
We read them. We also allow conversations to take place without our influence when it seems that it's the better course of action. Sometimes our intervention can actually skew a conversation off track if we're not careful. Then again, sometimes skewing a conversation is something we need to do too, to get people "on track" or even away from non-constructive discussion.

Sometimes we just don't have anything we could effectively add to the conversation, but it may spark some discussion internally that we can have amongst ourselves or take to the developers and producers. If and when we do have something we can bring back, we generally try to. Some may be under the false belief that it was the constant posts about a topic that made us come back to the topic, when in fact we may just need some time to discuss and come up with an answer that works and sometimes, we may have an answer that we just can't share at the time. Timing in our roles is often everything and as many know, "promising" something too soon, can be upsetting or worrisome to some people, while others don't mind being "in the know" even if plans do change. It's a balancing act.

We don't have elaborate schemes. That would mean we have a lot more time on our hands than we actually do to sit, plot and plan. In most cases, when we reply to something on the forums, we're tightrope walking while keeping an eye on the ever so dangerous ps and qs. That's not to say there isn't a method to the madness (see above paragraph.) It just means, we have to be quick on developing our thoughts and typing them out in a way that (hopefully) makes some semblance of sense.

If we see some really good feedback or ideas, we will often take it with us when we meet with the developers (which is generally a weekly face to face meeting.) We don't want to give the wrong impression that feedback given equals a guaranteed change based on that feedback.

We are just as likely to notice a smaller thread as we are to notice the larger ones. Sometimes, the best conversations are on the first few pages (not to say we don't read through the entire thread.) The reason being, that often, the conversation is more focused on the topic at hand and as the thread lengthens, we either see repeat discussions/arguments, or it begins to expand to other topics that may not be as relevant to the main topic of the original post.

BTW, contrary to popular belief (and not to start a moderation discussion.) We do not delete threads solely on the idea that it's saying it dislikes something we've designed or done to the game. We generally delete non-constructive threads or repeat threads since they often don't lead to good discussion or split conversation which makes it more difficult for us to sift through them for the constructive bits. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

64-bit Live Client
We'll be disabling the PTR forums shortly. Going forward you will be able to find the latest 64-bit client on the Tech Support forums. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Mists of Pandaria Information Plan
There does and there is. There's not anything specific I can share on a time frame as of yet, but things are moving along well with Mists of Pandaria and we'll be getting you all more information on "what's next" as soon as possible. For those that were able to see the next expansion at BlizzCon, you'll have seen that we were relatively far along in development. As we've said before, we're working diligently to put out expansions a little bit quicker than we have in the past. But, as always, we want to make sure we release "when it's ready" as well. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Trading Card Game Art Gallery Update
The Trading Card game art gallery has been updated with ten new pieces.





Curse Weekly Roundup
Pico is back to tell us about the things you might have missed recently in Diablo 3, Minecraft, Resident Evil 6, and more.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Patch 4.3.2 Release Date Update, Heroic Madness Class Stats, Blue Posts started by Boubouille View original post
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  1. Fresh's Avatar
    I only watch this to see Pico lol
  1. Nanotech's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Baalb View Post
    In my eyes Blizzard screwed seriously with encounter design in DS. Why do they strive to achieve PvE balance between specs, when they make such a ridiculous fight like madness ? Truth be told - you can't beat a good shadow priest on that encounter, even if you outgear them.
    I always top the meter on madness in my guild by a mile as a shadow priest even though I'm the least geared dps in my group. We have an affl lock with legendary and overall better gear and he trails me on damage done by several %. Now I'm not some pve goddess mind you, I'm a pretty average player who pays attention. But I also play on a HORRIBLE laptop which drops my fps to <10 on that fight and at 500-600 ms (I'm in Eastern Europe, playing on a US server). So I'd say shadow is a pretty damn good spec for that fight if even I can pull the numbers I pull with subpar gear and my technical limitations.

    Although to be fair I think the dps in my group aren't all that good to begin with, considering I do more than twice anyone else's damage to bolts as well.
  1. jax's Avatar
    Seriously, why do people care so much about class representation on a fight that .5% of the raiders in WoW even see?
    Because... real or not, the majority of raid leaders watch that .5% and check raidbots.com and Wol and see what specs are under preforming on specific fights and bench them in favor or better preforming classes/specs to make it easier for progression... the fact that you dont know that speaks volumes....................
  1. phenom568's Avatar
    I Have in the past defended these charts but this one is just pointless. Its not coincidence that the top 4 represented classes also happen to be the healer classes. So clearly dps only classes are going to be poorly represented. At least try and break it down by dps/healer/tank specs would be more useful.
  1. Alayea's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by phenom568 View Post
    I Have in the past defended these charts but this one is just pointless. Its not coincidence that the top 4 represented classes also happen to be the healer classes. So clearly dps only classes are going to be poorly represented. At least try and break it down by dps/healer/tank specs would be more useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracodraco View Post
    Not possible. The software that pulls these numbers checks for the achivement - they can't check for spec used when the achivement was aquired. Also, people can respec, so unless someone feels like asking every single person with the achivement what spec they were, we're not going to get that info.
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  1. phenom568's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Alayea View Post
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    Duh, which was my point. Why release information like this when it so obviously doesn't show anything and is so obviously screwed up by the fact that classes who can fill different rolls will clearly have a larger representation. Basically don't present information like this if you can't do a spec breakdown. otherwise i have enjoyed the other charts.
  1. Dracodraco's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by phenom568 View Post
    I Have in the past defended these charts but this one is just pointless. Its not coincidence that the top 4 represented classes also happen to be the healer classes. So clearly dps only classes are going to be poorly represented. At least try and break it down by dps/healer/tank specs would be more useful.
    How come Warlocks have about 3.5% more than hunter, and mages and rogues have about 6% more representation then. If you can't see that theres something wrong with atleast hunters compared to any other pure dps, then I don't really know what to do.


    Also, people care about the class representation on madness, because believe it or not, alot of the top end players the world over frequents these forums. Its not just socials and "bads". Every guild from the top 100 has atleast a few members on this site.
  1. Uccin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by redisk View Post
    i'm pretty sure with the impending nerf hunters will get more time
    So it takes a nerf to the content to let guilds bring a hunter? Awesome class design!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyriaa View Post
    With the amount of technology and incredibly talented programmers, I wouldn't go as far as to say it's impossible.
    Difficult sure, not impossible though.

    Anyways, I find it interesting that hunters were top and most represented in T11, were pretty good in T12 and have just kind of disappeared in T13 =/
    This was predicted in Wrath and it's what happened (only Arm Pen MM Hunters generally got to see ICC and once Arm Pen disappeared in 4.0 so did Hunter damage). It was predicted in Cata after Blizz didn't change the formulas behind our shots and look what's happened.
  1. Alayea's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by phenom568 View Post
    Duh, which was my point. Why release information like this when it so obviously doesn't show anything and is so obviously screwed up by the fact that classes who can fill different rolls will clearly have a larger representation. Basically don't present information like this if you can't do a spec breakdown. otherwise i have enjoyed the other charts.
    People have been asking for charts anyway. Doesn't matter how pointless it may seem. :|
  1. tohyatvc's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroWashu View Post
    Can someone please tell Pico (Pica?) to MOVE HER ARMS! Its just weird watching her read the news. Its like she is paralyzed or something. She could be much more interesting if they would either tell her to use her arms and hands to be more expressive or just remove the lower half of her body from the video so we just don't see her there being limp
    Can everyone stop commenting on Pico's goddamn movement... it's no doubt getting to her.

    You know she USED to move her arms a lot, and be very animated, twitching around.. people complained. So she stood still. Then, people complained that she was too still, so now she moves a bit. Now you're complaining she's not as she was to start with.

    Jesus Christ.

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