Pet Battle System now on Beta Realms (Early Version)

Originally Posted by Korlog

3. Guild-housing can be an enormous leap forward for player-integration and towards real online-cities. (Ok, this was not in your post, but I feel like i have to get my ideas out on this.) Right now 90% of the buildings in the major cities are empty, act as a backdrop or house NPCs who sell useless stuff. Imagine guilds being able to buy these houses, changing the facades, the interior. All within the appropiate colour-pallete of the city, of course. Succesfull guilds (maybe meassured in Achievementpoint) could afford the bigger houses, smaller guilds smaller ones. A more PvP-oriented guild could maybe settle near the Ring of Valor. Since the houses are limited, they get valued. Since the houses will not be instanced, everyone can be seen, visited or read /2.

Not to burst your bubble, but this will never happen. Maybe it makes a good theory, but in practice an unphased guild housing scenario like the one you described would ultimately discourage any new guilds from forming and since there is such a vast amount of players and guilds on any given server, what would happen when all of these 'lots' are taken? Is there a pecking order then? some kind of rent and mortgage the guilds must pay or be booted from the confines? I agree with you that player housing would be tight, and I am hopeful that the farming technique they are implementing in MoP will pave the way toward that, however anything like this must be phased to give everyone an equal shot or else you just end up with the longest running, most successful guild > all, no questions asked, either join them or never get to enjoy that part of the game. And if that is the case, then the argument turns into why they would waste so much developing hours on such a system that only affects a tiny portion of the playerbase, unlike pet battles - or wowfarmville.

soo it was not a joke afterall?

Originally Posted by Korlog

When I look back at the history of this fine game and then look at this pice of... content I am speachless. I normally am not short of words to express myself, but this is so full of fail. Words can't grasp this amount of suckage. I can't even justify before myself why any company with such a history can spend one single payed working hour of their employees to devolope such a thing. I was always hoping that the game would a little bit more of a serious, grown up touch. I was always hoping that the apparent increase in 'funny' popculture references would stop, or at least cease to grow. Now there is time and money spend on some so far away from the features which used to be the core of WoW... It is just so shameful.

To the guy claiming that pokebattles have been requested by the playerbase since 2004:
1. Where is the proof?
2. Other features are also heavily demanded, yet they are "not on the list".
3. Guild-housing can be an enormous leap forward for player-integration and towards real online-cities. (Ok, this was not in your post, but I feel like i have to get my ideas out on this.) Right now 90% of the buildings in the major cities are empty, act as a backdrop or house NPCs who sell useless stuff. Imagine guilds being able to buy these houses, changing the facades, the interior. All within the appropiate colour-pallete of the city, of course. Succesfull guilds (maybe meassured in Achievementpoint) could afford the bigger houses, smaller guilds smaller ones. A more PvP-oriented guild could maybe settle near the Ring of Valor. Since the houses are limited, they get valued. Since the houses will not be instanced, everyone can be seen, visited or read /2.

I guess it would be too much to ask for. Like green fire for Warlocks or a working Charge for Warriors. Better implement pet-battles. Clear to see.

okay. player housing goes live. the 40 houses in orgrimmar go to the 40 guilds who did stuff on the ptr and know exactly which house to buy. 90% of those houses will be in the grasp of the guild forever. most of the people will be pissed that they can't have a house in orgrimmar and no one is happy except for the few guilds which got a house on patch night.

try an instanced housing zone like in daoc. meaningless stuff. no one wants to hang out in these zones because it's too remote from the major cities. housing is a bad idea in general, imho.

too bad i could not test it yet cause of the thousand error i have been getting

Originally Posted by sylenna

okay. player housing goes live. the 40 houses in orgrimmar go to the 40 guilds who did stuff on the ptr and know exactly which house to buy. 90% of those houses will be in the grasp of the guild forever. most of the people will be pissed that they can't have a house in orgrimmar and no one is happy except for the few guilds which got a house on patch night.

try an instanced housing zone like in daoc. meaningless stuff. no one wants to hang out in these zones because it's too remote from the major cities. housing is a bad idea in general, imho.

To add to your point, which is great btw, how many people that play The Old Republic actually hang out in their ship with nothing to do all day? No one.

It really is Pokemon.... by the gods.

looks interesting. I don't think the battles will be fun against other players. but going out into the world to capture them seems pretty awesome.

I'm a tough grown up, this pet thing is for kids and children, i'm too grown up and tough for this stuff, i'm big, i'm bad and i'm mean, this pet thing is so CHILDISH

Oh god, just thinking like that for even a second made me want to cut myself, bring on the pets and let the tears flow

why do people think this is a joke still? If people played wow from long ago and read forums, players have been requesting some sort of battle system or something fun for all these pointless vanity pets that people grind for days even weeks to get which absolutely do nothing but look cool/cute. Though i hate Pokemon the cartoon etc, the original gameboy game rpgs were quite fun and it seems like that is what blizzard is shooting for with the pet battles. I just dont see why people are so bitchy about this new feature i mean what the hell els you suposed to do with 150+ pets? if someone could think of a better system i would love to see it. and why re-invent the wheel when honestly the pokemon system works lol. WoW needed other more fun things to do aside from the typical agenda, level an alt, raid , dungeon etc and imo this is a great step in the direction. People act like this feature is the only big change in MOP, the fact they are adding this big system on top of everything els is quite impressive so like everything if you dont freaking like it go play something els.

Originally Posted by sylenna

okay. player housing goes live. the 40 houses in orgrimmar go to the 40 guilds who did stuff on the ptr and know exactly which house to buy. 90% of those houses will be in the grasp of the guild forever. most of the people will be pissed that they can't have a house in orgrimmar and no one is happy except for the few guilds which got a house on patch night.

try an instanced housing zone like in daoc. meaningless stuff. no one wants to hang out in these zones because it's too remote from the major cities. housing is a bad idea in general, imho.

When you see it as a permanent property, it would of course be bad. But maybe the houses could be owned by a guild for a fixed timespan; after this every guild on the server can try to get this house. Much like an auction. There would be a few representative houses (Valley of Honour for example) and a lot of smaller ones. Or there could be a mixed approach: If you absolutely want a guildhome but all slots are taken you can get an instanced one for little money. I don't know, there are a lot of possibilities to implement such a thing.

BTW: No one is bursting my bubble by telling me that there will never be Guild/Playerhouses in WoW. I know that this things will never make it in the game. My point was: There are a lot of other features closer related to the core of an Online-Roleplaying-Game than these childish pet-battles. I am an Axe-swinging, blood-drinking, cursing, stinking Orc in 50kg of plated armor. I slay Demons, Dragons, Fallen Gods, Titans and Things That Have No Name. And now i get the ability to... send in my pets.

The camera will rotate around your character and the game will switch to Pet Battle mode.

Now you know, a la the Mage addon that plays Time Warp (when it's casted), there will be some addon dev who will make a Pet Battle addon that plays the Pokemon battle theme (a la the start of this: )



each time one battles....

The question is, who would willingly install it? lol

So now the obvious question. HOW IN THE HELL has Hasbro not sued Blizzard yet?

So I log onto the beta but none of my characters both premades and copies have pets...

Pokemon >>>> pet battles

Especially the first 2 generations

Originally Posted by The Ogdru Jahad

So I log onto the beta but none of my characters both premades and copies have pets...

It's a bug, the Pet Battle implementation seems to have wiped out everyone's pets... makes me wonder how one is supposed to test it (Unless we go out and catch 'em all!) when Blizzard has wiped the PokeDex clean.

I personally like housing, but a few reasons why it'll probably never be seen in WoW:

1. Non-instanced or non-phased housing in the wide open world will make the ability to get a house on highly populated realms extremely difficult. If anyone remembers early Ultima Online housing, housing PROPERTY was worth more than the house itself. A small house deed was worth 45k gold, but a small house placed on a plot of land could go for anywhere from 100k to several million depending on where it was located. Because of house decay, there were people that made money just off of poaching spots where houses had decayed completely and selling those pieces of property. It would create an interesting market dynamic in WoW but would almost certainly be a toy only for the rich. Plus, it makes the "wilderness" suddenly seem very "settled" and no longer like wilderness.

2. Instanced and phased housing like other games makes housing almost become meaningless. Sure, you can buy and decorate a house, but nobody's going to care because nobody but the friends you badger to check out your house will ever see it. In the end, instanced and phased housing is just a glorified void storage system, or other kind of extended bank service.

I have no doubt that blizzard will eventually implement player housing as one of those ways of bringing people back. Much like WoW pet battle system is a pokemon extension of the game, a housing system would just be The Sims: World of Warcraft.

Yo dawg, we heard you like games, so we put a game in your game, so you can game while you game.

Holy crap! It actually looks awesome!

This is a fucking stupid joke.

Bring on Guild Wars 2, I'm tired of this bullshit.

Problem with guild housing aside from the crazy technical side of things is it would just segregate the community even more, everyone would just sit in there stupid instance or on server houses and of course blizzard would have to design one for every single guild somehow other wise only the power house guilds could afford it which then breaks of the guild structure and community even more, while i think the concept is cool i never found it to be all that useful in the grand scheme of things other them bragging rights, and i dont think it would really add any use to WoW other then a place to sit and troll and expect there to be ports to every location so you never have to leave your guild house and once you got your house then what QQ cause there isnt enough features in the houses? Sorry but i am with blizzard on this one, people need to get out and explore more instead of sitting in town for hours and development time is better spent elswhere. I could careless if people don't like the Pet system, its been widely wanted for years.