MMO-Champion - Bringing Achievements to the Account Level
Bringing Achievements to the Account Level
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
We recently added account-level changes to achievements in World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria, and there’s still a lot of work left before we’re done. The plan here is to illustrate the intent behind our design, which should in turn help you figure out the answers to many of your questions.

Overall, we never want you to play Character A instead of Character B because of achievement concerns. If Character A had the Violet Proto-Drake, then you might not play Character B. If Character A was only one holiday away from the Violet Proto-Drake, then you may not play Character B. If Character A had completed most of the raid achievements from Dragon Soul, you may not want to bring Character B for one fight and miss out on the achievement. Having alts is cool and working on achievements is cool, but we don’t want the two systems to work against each other.

This goal is paramount and drives everything else. If we allowed you to earn extra achievement points from completing an achievement on two different characters, then you might only want to play the character with the most points and you’d feel like you had to grind through all the achievements with every alt, thus defeating the purpose of having account-level achievements.

Most achievements are account-wide

This means you only earn the points once. If you have earned an achievement on one character, you can see it on all your characters. However, and this is important, you will still see the achievement toast (the pop-up notification) if a second or subsequent character completes the achievement. We think it’s still important to recognize milestones like reaching level 80, maxing out a profession, or killing a raid boss for the first time. It's fun to have everyone congratulate you when you get the toast. Nonetheless, this will just be a new character of yours completing the achievement that you’ve already earned on your account. You won’t double up on points.

Most criteria are not account-wide

If you start an achievement on one character, you can't then finish the achievement on another (there are exceptions, so please keep reading). We didn't think it made sense for one character to get level 60 and another to get level 20 and then see the "level 80" achievement toast. If you start to explore Thousand Needles on one character, you’ll probably want to finish that achievement on the same character.

Some achievements are "meta achievements."

These are achievements that require you to get other specific achievements. An infamous example is "What a Long, Strange Trip It's Been." These achievements generally ARE account-wide. If one character earned Noble Gardener and another character earned The Flame Warden, then your account would get Long Strange Trip. (Otherwise it would be weird: it would look as if you had the sub-achievements, but you wouldn't have the meta-achievement). Even though you need Explore Thousand Needles on one character, all of your characters can contribute to Explore Kalimdor.

A very few achievements are account-only.

There are two categories of account-only achievements. One is achievements that are not possible to earn on one character. If we made an achievement to level every class to level 90, it would be account-only. (I'm not sure we will, but it's a good example.) The other category are achievements that are just brutal to complete on one character (and you’d never want to do for multiples), such as 2500 daily quests or 250K honorable kills. In these cases, the cumulative work of all your characters on those criteria will count.

We hope that rewards granted from achievements (pets, mounts, titles, and tabards) will be shared at the account level.

I'm not going to promise this yet, because a lot of magic has to happen for that to work, but it's our intent. We have discussed having a character level requirement for some rewards, so that your level-2 gnome couldn’t walk around with the “Defender of a Shattered World” title just because your level-90 shaman earned it. If the gnome made it to level 80, though, you could proudly show off your title. You also won’t be able to use a faction-specific pet, mount, or title on the wrong faction. The achievement wouldn’t go away -- you just wouldn’t be able to show it off on that character. There are probably additional exceptions and details we’ll find as we dig deeper into the system.

This is the kind of system that will evolve over time, and we don’t think this has to be the way achievements work forever. As beta players start experimenting with it and offering feedback, I am certain that we will end up making even more changes.

Greg “Ghostcrawler” Street is Lead Systems Designer for World of Warcraft. He loves you very, very much. Yes, you.
This article was originally published in forum thread: Bringing Achievements to the Account Level started by Boubouille View original post
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  1. I change my name a lot's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by indyboy362 View Post
    What about realm first achievements that give titles? My alt has Death's Demise. Will my main get that title as well?
    Likely being discussed still, Would be funny all of my alts having Death's Demise.
  1. Mizzrym's Avatar
    Awesome. This is great, great news. Until now I wasn't sure how it would work, but this is really awesome. Thanks Blizz
  1. Myzou's Avatar
    Guess I have to do Merrymaker this year... last one I need on my toons for Strange Trip. xD

    EDIT: Apparently I lied. -.- I apparently don't have The Love Fool, even though I swear I did.
  1. Saluin's Avatar
    Can't wait for this !
  1. Salaction160's Avatar
    Bullshit Changes.
  1. I change my name a lot's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by fishing4corpses View Post
    I second this. I worked hard to get the Bloodthirsty.... if they do make things like this account wide, remove the titles. I would rather not see every noob running around with it.
    Every noob? Cmon they WORKED for it as much as you. I'll have to break you right here; All HK's of your toons will count.

    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    The other category are achievements that are just brutal to complete on one character (and you’d never want to do for multiples), such as 2500 daily quests or 250K honorable kills. In these cases, the cumulative work of all your characters on those criteria will count.
  1. Xiklas's Avatar
    Respect blizzard! :d
  1. Zergal's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by fishing4corpses View Post
    I second this. I worked hard to get the Bloodthirsty.... if they do make things like this account wide, remove the titles. I would rather not see every noob running around with it.
    Hate to burst your bubble, but Bloodthirsty is a pure korean grind-style achievement, no skill whatsoever involved.
  1. ScottsdaleHokie's Avatar
    Try making rep account-wide, then you may have something remotely interesting. Otherwise, this is just meh.
  1. Xiklas's Avatar
    Just change to horde and lost my "the Insane" gief it baaack to my hordiee
  1. moesouls's Avatar
    im interested to see how they define account because alot of people have many account tied to one battle.net id
  1. kilj's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by fishing4corpses View Post
    I second this. I worked hard to get the Bloodthirsty.... if they do make things like this account wide, remove the titles. I would rather not see every noob running around with it.
    yes becuase my warrior that I've had since vanilla that has over 150k honor kills, and all my other toons I didnt work hard on?? I was hoping they would make this account wide becuase since BC ive had to switch my mains
  1. I change my name a lot's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zergal View Post
    Hate to burst your bubble, but Bloodthirsty is a pure korean grind-style achievement, no skill whatsoever involved.
    Indeed makes me think why people ''think'' Time consuming achievements are ''Skilled'' Cmon.
  1. Purplekitti's Avatar
    Next question, is it wow-account wide or battle.net account wide? For those of us who are nolifers with two accounts...
  1. Dark Exerus's Avatar
    But would this apply to lore master?Like you get an achievement on one character and another achievement on a different character to collect together for lore master like exploring and the seasonal achievements.
  1. Ixuzcc's Avatar
    About time - ever since having or not having a specific achievement became an indicator of a player's skill and contribution to a group (I say this in the most sarcastic way possible), it's been a freaking pain to get into groups using my alts.
  1. Eazycheeze's Avatar
    You only specifiy mount earned from achievements. Can you please say something about your intent for non-achievement mounts? For example, Invincible, Onyxia, etc.?
  1. I change my name a lot's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eazycheeze View Post
    You only specifiy mount earned from achievements. Can you please say something about your intent for non-achievement mounts? For example, Invincible, Onyxia, etc.?
    Account wide mount are in place, So yes your toons will have Invincible on every single of your toon.
  1. Vynistra's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Lypo View Post
    But...I have done 2500 dailies on a single character. :/
    Tell me about it. I stopped doing dailies pretty much soon as I got my fire hippogryph and I'm still sitting @ 9,845 dailies done on my Mage, haha.
    But I'm not complaining, because everything on that list just made me go "Whee!!"
  1. Cedimedi's Avatar
    So we get free riding skills for twinks if we have the meta holiday achievement.

    lol

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