Update: It seems that the Black Market Auction House is not enabled in this build.

Mists of Pandaria Beta - Build 15689
Two patches in a week is not enough, so how about a third? If you are tired of taking part in PvP on certain maps, it looks like there is now a solution for you! ERR_PVP_BLACKLIST_CAP indicates that players will be able to blacklist maps when queuing for some type of PvP.

Black Market Auction House
The Black Market Auction House allows players to bid on special items that are not normally sold by NPCs. For example, Mei Francis normally sells mounts in Dalaran, but in this case she is auctioning Ashes of Al'ar!

The items for auction vary by server, as other servers are able to bid on Reins of the Blazing Drake, Swift White Hawkstrider, or Riding Turtle.





Armored Druid Bear Forms
Incarnation brings us yet another set of armored druid forms!



New Items
For the full list of new items, check out WoWDB!

Level Type Slot Name
1JunkN/ASky Crystal
1JunkN/ASkyshard
1JunkN/ABag of Helpful Things
1JunkN/ANat's Fishing Chair
1PetN/AHopling
1PetN/AAqua Strider
1PetN/AGrinder
1OtherN/ABattle Horn
500OtherN/ASigil of Power
500OtherN/ASigil of Wisdom
513OtherN/AChimera of Fear
513OtherN/ABreath of the Black Prince
80CookingN/AApprentice Cookbook
80CookingN/AExpert Cookbook
80CookingN/AArtisan Cookbook
80CookingN/AMaster Cookbook
80CookingN/AGrand Master Cookbook
30CookingN/ATest Cookbook
85ClothHandsForager's Gloves
90Item EnhancementN/ALiving Steel Weapon Chain
90Item EnhancementN/AGhost Iron Shield Spike


Achievement Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Pet Battles

Pandaria

Pandaria Raid
  • Sorry, Were You Looking for This? New: Successfully activate the Ancient Mogu Artifact during the Gara'jal the Spiritbinder encounter in Mogu'shan Vaults on Normal or Heroic difficulty.

Temple of Kotmogu

Scenarios
  • A Brewing Storm New: Defeat Borokhula the Destroyer in A Brewing Storm.
  • Beat the Heat New: Defeat Little Liuyang without taking damage from a Flame Wall in the Arena of Annihilation scenario.
  • Big Beach Brew Bash New: Defeat Captain Ook in the Big Beach Brew Bash.
  • Burgled Brew New: Defeat Vengeful Hui in the Burgled Brew scenario.
  • Don't Shake the Keg New: Defeat Borokhula the Destroyer in A Brewing Storm without getting hit by his Swamp Smash.
  • Fancy Footwork New: Complete the Crypt of Forgotten Kings scenario without anyone taking damage from a Cloud of Hatred.
  • For Display Only New: Defeat General Zhu without using any of the artifact orbs in the Temple of Kotmogu scenario.
  • It's a Trap! New: Step on a floor trap in the Crypt of Forgotten Kings scenario.
  • Monkey in the Middle New: Defeat Captain Ook without him getting the orange.
  • Monkey See, Monkey Kill New: Defeat all bosses of the Big Beach Brew Bash.
  • Mucking Around New: Find and kill the Muckscale King during the Assault on Zan'vess scenario.
  • Party of Six New: Finish A Brewing Storm with all six Thunderpaw Guardians still alive.
  • Perfect Delivery New: Return six stolen kegs without any being damaged in the Burgled Brew scenario.
  • Save it for Later New: Complete the Burgled Brew scenario without using any Volatile Greenstone Brew.
  • Spill No Evil New: Complete Stage 2 of the Big Beach Brew Bash without any brew being stolen.
  • Stay Off the Grass New: Don't aggro any Zhun'ji Maulers or Ancestral Horrors in the Temple of Kotmogu scenario.
  • The Arena of Annihilation New: Complete the Arena of Annihilation scenario.
  • The Eye of the Tiger New: Defeat all final bosses - Cloudbender Kobo, Maki Waterblade, and Satay Byu - in the Arena of Annihilation scenario.
  • The Keg Runner New: Complete Stage 2 of the Big Beach Brew Bash before the third wave of hozen pirates arrives.
  • The Perfect Pour New: Brew the Boomer Brew without anyone in your party being hit by Lightning during A Brewing Storm.
  • The Temple of Kotmogu New: Defeat General Zhun in the Temple of Kotmogu scenario.
  • Zero Bug Count New: Kill each type of mantid in the Assault on Zan'vess scenario.

Resurrection

Silvershard Mines
  • End of the Line New: Seize control of a mine cart that is controlled by the opposing team within 20 yards of the depot, and then capture it.
  • Escort Service New: Capture 100 mine carts in Silvershard Mines.
  • Greed is Good New: Gain both the Berserking and Restoration buffs at the same time in Silvershard Mines.
  • Master of Silvershard Mines New: Complete the Silvershard Mines achievements listed below.
  • Mine Cart Courier New: Capture a mine cart using each of the 5 sets of tracks in a single Silvershard Mines match.
  • Mine Mine Mine! New: Kill 100 enemies trying to take control of the mine cart you are defending.
  • My Diamonds and Your Rust New: Win a Silvershard Mines battle without letting the enemy team capture a minecart.
  • The Long Riders New: Capture and escort a minecart from its spawn to a depot without losing control.
  • Three for Three New: Capture 3 mine carts in a single Silvershard Mines battle without dying.



Spell Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Misc Spells
  • Master Forager Allows faster gathering of resources in Pandaria.
  • Huojin Champion - You champion the cause of Huojin Pandaren. All reputation gains while in dungeons will be applied to your standing with them. Instant.
  • Tushui Champion You champion the cause of Tushui Pandaren. All reputation gains while in dungeons will be applied to your standing with them. Instant.
  • Item - Proc Dodge Your attacks have a chance to grant you 3,386 dodge for 15 sec.
  • Item - Proc Intellect Your healing spells have a chance to grant 3,386 Intellect for 10 sec.
  • Confession compels a friendly target to confess a secret. Or maybe it's just subtle mind control. 40 yd range, Instant, 30 min cooldown.
  • 5.0 Rare Item Spawn - Hammer of Ten Thunders Your melee attacks have a chance to blast your enemy with 13,500 nature damage.
  • 5.0 Rare Item Spawn - Jade Infused Blade Your melee attacks have a chance to encase your enemy in jade, stunning them for 3 sec. Only works on creatures level 90 and below. Does not work on players.
  • 5.0 Rare Item Spawn - Yaungol Fire Your melee attacks have a chance to set your enemies ablaze, dealing 882 damage every 2 sec for 10 sec.

Professions - Engineering
  • Cloak Tinker: Goblin Glider Permanently attaches a specialized folding assembly to a cloak, allowing you to deploy a goblin glider and fall slowly for 30 sec. Additionally, the glider has periodic forward thrust and usually won't catch fire. The cloak can only be used once every two minutes and requires an Engineering skill of at least 500 to operate. 5 sec cast. Reagents: Strong Flux (3)

Druid (Forums)
  • Feline Grace New: Reduces damage from falling while in Cat Form.

Talents
  • Cenarion Ward now costs 14.8% of Base Mana, down from 22.4%.
  • Dream of Cenarius now proc increase healing done by your next healing spell by 70%, up from 30%. Tranquility is not affected..
  • Nature's Vigil now increases all damage and healing done by 20% for 30 sec, down from 30%. Single target spells now damage or heal a nearby target for 25% of the damage/healing done, down from 50%.

Feral
  • Rip now has a duration increased by Ravage as well.

Hunter (Forums)

Major Glyphs

Glyphs
  • Glyph of Marking Your Hunter's Mark ability now places a bullseye on your target instead of its usual visual.
  • Glyph of Direction Causes your Misdirection target to appear larger.

Quilen
  • Eternal Guardian New: Returns the spirit to the body, restoring a dead target to life with 20% health and 20% mana. 20 yd range, 2 sec cast, 10 min cooldown.
  • Fearless Roar New: The quilen lets out a fearless roar, increasing the critical strike chance of all party and raid members by 5%. Instant, 45 sec cooldown.

Porcupine
  • Paralyzing Quill New: Fires paralyzing quills around the porcupine, incapacitating all enemies for 2 sec. 0.5 sec cast, 60 sec cooldown.
  • Rest New: You command your pet Porcupine to take a rest. Instant.

Goat
  • Trample New: Your goat tramples the enemy, kicking up an obscuring cloud of dust, causing all enemies within 10 yards to have their melee and ranged attack speed reduced by 20% for 30 sec. Melee range, Instant, 25 sec cooldown.

Water Strider
  • Still Water New: Infuses all party and raid members within vision with still water, increasing their spell power by 10% and their critical strike chance by 5% for 60 min. Instant.
  • Surface Trot New: Allows the Hunter and the Water Strider to walk across water for 10 min. Any damage will cancel the effect. Unlimited range, Instant.

Crane
  • Lullaby New: Puts the target to sleep for 4 sec. 20 yd range, Instant, 60 sec cooldown.
  • Trick New: You command your Crane to do a trick. Instant.

Basilisk
  • Petrifying Gaze New: Turns the target into stone for 3 sec, causing them to be invulnerable. 20 yd range, Instant, 60 sec cooldown.

Mage (Forums)
Frost
  • Frostbolt now also can be cast on your Water Elemental to heal it for (1,442 + 189.2% of SP).

Monk (Forums)

Talents

Brewmaster
  • Desperate Measures New: While at or below 35% health, your Expel Harm has no cooldown.
  • Purifying Brew now has a 1 sec cooldown.
  • Summon Black Ox Statue has been reworked: Sancturary of the Ox (Passive) -Everytime the Monk deals damage equal to 50% of their health, the Black Ox statue will cast Guard on an injured party or raid member within 40 yards absorbing 14,232 damage lasting 30 sec. This effect cannot be cast onto the Monk.

Mistweaver
  • Stance of the Wise Serpent now grants hit and expertise equal to 50% Spirit gained from items or effects, down from any Spirit gained. Now heals for 50% of non-auto attack damage, rather than all damage.
  • Summon Jade Serpent Statue now heals based on non-auto attack damage, rather than all damage.

Minor Glyphs

Major Glyphs
  • Glyph of Leer of the Ox New: Teaches you the spell Leer of the Ox: Your Ox Statue stirs hatred in the target, reducing their movement speed by 50% and causing them to attack your Black Ox Statue for 8 sec. The statue must be within 40 yards of the target. Requires Black Ox Statue to be active.
  • Glyph of Path of Blossoms now increases the number of Fire Blossoms you create by 1, down from 10.

Paladin (Forums)
  • Consecration base damage has been reduced by 24%.
  • Holy Wrath damage has been reduced to 408 and AP scaling reduced to 35.7%, down from 59.5%.
  • Shield of the Righteous base damage has been reduced by 85%. AP scaling has been reduced to 54%, down from 60%.

Priest (Forums / Talent Calculator)
  • Glyph of Confession New: Teaches you the ability Confession. Compels a friendly target to confess a secret.

Major Glyphs
  • Glyph of Lightspring New: Transforms your Lightwell into a Lightspring: Creates a Holy Lightspring. Every 5 sec the Lightspring will attempt to heal party and raid members lower than 50% health for (5,735 + 55.3% of SP) over 6 sec. Attacks done to the target equal to 30% of your total health will cancel the effect. Lightspring lasts for 3 min or until 15 heals are expended.

Glyphs

Shaman (Forums)
Minor Glyphs

Major Glyphs
  • Glyph of Chain Heal has been renamed to Glyph of Unstable Earth. Causes your Earthquake spell to also reduce the movement speed of affected targets by 40% for 3 sec.
  • Glyph of Telluric Currents has been reworked: Causes your Lightning Bolt to restore 10% of your mana when it strikes an enemy.
  • Glyph of Totemic Recall now returns the full mana cost of any recalled totems, rather than 50%.

Warlock (Forums)
  • Dark Intent now costs 4% of Base Mana, down from 26% of Base Mana.
  • Imp Swarm's cooldown is reduced by spell haste.

Demonology

Affliction
  • Drain Soul now causes damage every 2 sec and rewards a Soul Shard after dealing damage twice.
  • Soulburn now has a 1.5 sec cooldown.

Major Glyphs

Warrior (Forums)
  • Deadly Calm New: You enter a battle trance, reducing the cost of your next 3 Heroic Strike or Cleave attacks by 10 Rage. Instant, 60 sec cooldown.

Fury
  • Bloodsurge now has a 20% proc rate, down from 30%.

Arms
  • Taste for Blood now each additional Overpower will hit for an additional 30% damage, up from 20%.

Major Glyphs
  • Glyph of Incite has been reworked: Using Devastate during Deadly Clam reduces the cost of Heroic Strike and Cleave by an additional 20 Rage.



New Maps





Client Strings
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
  • CHALLENGES_RECORD_TIME - Your Best
  • CHALLENGE_MODE_GUILD_BEST - Guild Best
  • CHALLENGE_MODE_MEDAL1 - Bronze
  • CHALLENGE_MODE_MEDAL2 - Silver
  • CHALLENGE_MODE_MEDAL3 - Gold
  • CHALLENGE_MODE_REALM_BEST - Realm Best
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_AZUREMYSTISLE2 - Tide's Hollow
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_BREWMASTERSCENARIO011 - A Brewing Storm
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_BREWMASTERSCENARIO031 - Big Beach Brew Bash
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_BURNINGSTEPPES14 - Blackrock Spire
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_BURNINGSTEPPES15 - Blackrock Caverns
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_BURNINGSTEPPES16 - Blackrock Depths
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_COLDRIDGEVALLEY9 - Frostmane Hovel
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DEATHKNELL12 - Night Web's Hollow
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUNMOROGH10 - Gnomeregan
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUNMOROGH11 - Gol'Bolar Quarry
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUNMOROGH6 - Coldridge Pass
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUNMOROGH7 - The Grizzled Den
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUROTAR10 - Tiragarde Keep
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUROTAR11 - Great Hall
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUROTAR12 - Skull Rock
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUROTAR19 - Dustwind Cave
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUROTAR8 - Burning Blade Coven
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_ELWYNN1 - Fargodeep Mine
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_ELWYNN2 - Lower Mines
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_GHOSTLANDS1 - Amani Catacombs
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_GILNEAS1 - Emberstone Mine
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_GILNEAS2 - Main Floor
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_GILNEAS3 - Upper Floor
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_HEARTOFFEAR1 - Oratorium of the Voice
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_HEARTOFFEAR2 - Heart of Fear
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_KEZAN5 - Kaja'Mine Gold
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_KEZAN6 - Kaja'Mine Silver
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_KEZAN7 - Kaja'Mine Copper
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_KUNLAIPASSSCENARIO1 - Brewmoon Festival
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_KUNLAISUMMITSCENARIO1 - Peak of Serenity
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANPALACE1 - The Crimson Assembly Hall
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANPALACE2 - Vaults of Kings Past
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANPALACE3 - Throne of Ancient Conquerors
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANVAULTS1 - Dias of Conquerors
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANVAULTS2 - The Repository
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANVAULTS3 - Forge of the Endless
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MULGORE6 - Palemane Rock
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MULGORE7 - The Venture Co. Mine
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_NEWTINKERTOWN8 - Frostmane Hold
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_NORTHSHIRE3 - Echo Ridge Mine
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SCHOLOMANCE3 - The Upper Study
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SCHOLOMANCE4 - The Headmaster's Study
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SEARINGGORGE14 - Blackrock Spire
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SEARINGGORGE15 - Blackrock Caverns
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SEARINGGORGE16 - Blackrock Depths
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SHADOWGLEN2 - Shadowthread Cave
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SILITHUS13 - Twilights Run
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TANARIS15 - The Noxious Lair
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TANARIS16 - The Gaping Chasm
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TANARIS17 - Timeless Tunnel
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TANARIS18 - Caverns of Time
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TELDRASSIL3 - Fel Rock
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TELDRASSIL4 - Upper Den
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TELDRASSIL5 - Lower Den
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_THEJADEFORESTSCENARIO1 - Burgled Brew
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_THELOSTISLES1 - Kaja'Mite Cavern
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_THELOSTISLES2 - Volcanoth's Lair
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_THELOSTISLES3 - Mine Tunnels
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_THELOSTISLES4 - Mine Shaft
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TIRISFAL13 - Scarlet Monastery Entrance
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TYRIVESS1 - Assault on Zan'Vess
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_UNGOROCRATER14 - The Slithering Scar
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_VALLEYOFPOWERSCENARIO1 - Temple of Kotmogu
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_WESTFALL4 - Gold Coast Quarry
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_WESTFALL5 - Jangolode Mine
  • ERR_ITEM_UPGRADE_ITEM_TOO_LOW_LEVEL - Item must be level 375 or higher
  • ERR_ITEM_UPGRADE_NO_MORE_UPGRADES - This item is fully upgraded
  • ERR_ITEM_UPGRADE_NO_PATH - Item cannot be upgraded
  • ERR_PETBATTLE_ALL_PETS_DEAD - All pets in your battle slots are dead.
  • ERR_PETBATTLE_NO_PETS_IN_SLOTS - Must have a pet in battle slot.
  • ERR_PVP_BLACKLIST_CAP - You have already blacklisted the maximum number of maps.
  • ERR_PVP_MAP_NOT_FOUND - Blacklisted map not set.
  • ITEM_UPGRADE_NO_MORE_UPGRADES - This item cannot be upgraded anymore.
  • POWER_TYPE_FOOD - Food
  • PRIEST_HOLY_CORE_ABILITY_6 - Use to switch from single-target healing to area healing or damage.
  • SPELL_FAILED_CUSTOM_ERROR_145 - Wait until the Onyx Serpent is overhead directly overhead.
  • SPELL_FAILED_CUSTOM_ERROR_164 - You must obtain a Flight Master's License before using this spell.
  • WHC_DK_2 - Presences have changed. Frost Presence now doubles runic power generation.
  • WHC_DRUID_2 - Feral specialization has been split into Feral, a Cat-based damage specialization and Guardian, a Bear-based tanking specialization.
  • WHC_TITLE_DK_2 - Presences
This article was originally published in forum thread: Mists of Pandaria Beta - Build 15689 started by chaud View original post
Comments 338 Comments
  1. Volitar's Avatar
    So nothing is BOP anymore provided you have pockets lined with gold. If I quit this game this will probably be the reason.
  1. Rioo's Avatar
    Gold selling sites and Blizzard sitting in a tree...
  1. Qij's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Stryder View Post
    Effort, as if, all you do is spend 10minutes a week farming some 2mannable boss.
    you are aware you can solo Attumen right?

    Seriously though let's make Mimiron's head an example or even invincible ( which will more likely than not be thrown onto that wicked AH ) which are both 1% drop rates. it will take about 30 minutes to form a group on my server ( keep in mind I'm on frostmourne horde which is one of the most populated servers. )
    then it'll take about an hour and a half - two hours to fully clear the instance. keeping in mind that yogg0 and LoD are still not that easy to get and you need a semi competent group. Now.. I'm going to give you a rough idea how long it would take to get said mounts running the raids once a week. So I think 52 runs is a reasonable amount of kills to be able to see a mount with a 1% drop rate at least once right? well that's an entire year of running those raids. That's 104 hours of running icc ( based on average times of doing it myself. ) but 52 is a pretty lucky number to see a drop to be perfectly honest. I did 147 baron rivendare kills on my warrior before I saw a mount drop ( which is also a 1% drop rate ) and I realise this is quiet unlucky for me, but let's say it took that many lich king heroic kills to see 1 invincible.. that's almost 300 hours of running icc. this is based on 2 hour runs.

    I'm not sure what your idea of effort is, but I'd love to hear about it.

    prehaps... sitting at an AH? buying gold off gold farmers?

    This black market is a spit to the face to anyone that took the time and EFFORT into grinding dungeons and raids to earn these prestigious mounts.
  1. Welos's Avatar
    "Time is money friend."

    I think the goblins say it best.
  1. Singen's Avatar
    this is awesome imo. I think I may need to start playing again
  1. F-Minus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by DragonSoul View Post
    so basically pver's win again here on the black market ah since pvpers dnt have money gj blizzard,
    Laughable, it is your decision to ignore PvE not Blizzards.
  1. SteakAndAlePie's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Qij View Post
    This black market is a spit to the face to anyone that took the time and EFFORT into grinding dungeons and raids to earn these prestigious mounts.
    People grinding old content for cosmetic mounts is a spit to the face to anyone blessed by mother luck when the content was relevant.

    And many people might not choose to use this. I can imagine things like Invincible getting into the BMAH once a month or less. With the inflation of gold we will see in Mists those mounts will most likely end on 800k or higher stakes. It's still far from free.
  1. F-Minus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Qij View Post
    you are aware you can solo Attumen right?

    Seriously though let's make Mimiron's head an example or even invincible ( which will more likely than not be thrown onto that wicked AH ) which are both 1% drop rates. it will take about 30 minutes to form a group on my server ( keep in mind I'm on frostmourne horde which is one of the most populated servers. )
    then it'll take about an hour and a half - two hours to fully clear the instance. keeping in mind that yogg0 and LoD are still not that easy to get and you need a semi competent group. Now.. I'm going to give you a rough idea how long it would take to get said mounts running the raids once a week. So I think 52 runs is a reasonable amount of kills to be able to see a mount with a 1% drop rate at least once right? well that's an entire year of running those raids. That's 104 hours of running icc ( based on average times of doing it myself. ) but 52 is a pretty lucky number to see a drop to be perfectly honest. I did 147 baron rivendare kills on my warrior before I saw a mount drop ( which is also a 1% drop rate ) and I realise this is quiet unlucky for me, but let's say it took that many lich king heroic kills to see 1 invincible.. that's almost 300 hours of running icc. this is based on 2 hour runs.

    I'm not sure what your idea of effort is, but I'd love to hear about it.

    prehaps... sitting at an AH? buying gold off gold farmers?

    This black market is a spit to the face to anyone that took the time and EFFORT into grinding dungeons and raids to earn these prestigious mounts.
    It's one mount per server. Even if they auction a mount each day (but they wont), that's ~365 mounts per server a year, not that much.

    Also, you have to bid on it, there's no buyout option and on a high pop server that price can rise through the roof pretty fast, and if a guy is willing to give one million gold for Mimis head, I salute to him and he should actually get 2 mounts and a bucket full of spit to throw at the people who farmed for it.
  1. Thirteen's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by bregtann View Post
    Wouldn't it have made more sense to add T3 to some loot table somewhere instead, so people had to work for it again?
    Not gonna argue with you there, but I'm not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth. Also:

    Glyph of Telluric Currents has been reworked: Causes your Lightning Bolt to restore 10% of your mana when it strikes an enemy.
    WHAT? There is no way this is making it to live. Every restoration shaman would be using it.
  1. webzagar's Avatar
    I think people are freaking out over nothing. There is NO BUYOUT. That means that once in a blue moon there will be a specific rare mount listed and it will sell for insane amounts of gold to ONE PERSON. So they are still going to be exceedingly rare. Buying that much gold is a waste because you have no guarantee that you'll even win the auction. It is a very high risk proposition. WoW has a massive problem with inflation because gold is so useless. This will lower prices on normal goods for everybody once millions of gold are removed from the economy.
  1. Nyky's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by F-Minus View Post
    Laughable, it is your decision to ignore PvE not Blizzards.
    Good PvPs may have much more gold then PvEs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSj1EZjgyEQ

  1. Qij's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SteakAndAlePie View Post
    People grinding old content for cosmetic mounts is a spit to the face to anyone blessed by mother luck when the content was relevant.

    And many people might not choose to use this. I can imagine things like Invincible getting into the BMAH once a month or less. With the inflation of gold we will see in Mists those mounts will most likely end on 800k or higher stakes. It's still far from free.
    Turns out I'm one of those blessed people to have obtained mimiron's head before they nerfed the drop rate.

    If this hit's live I'm assuming they're going to put current mounts and gear on this AH. So I ask, is there any point of high end raiding? when anyone can get the mount's and gear they paid for using gold they bought from a gold seller?

    Sad times are ahead my friends.
  1. aztr0's Avatar
    The people that complain about the black market are the same people with no gold to spare. Why do any of you care about what another person is riding? You play your game, they play their game. If they want to buy the mount with gold, more power to them. If you want to use your time to grind the mount in the raids then good for you. You're not paying their subscription fee, so all the QQing does nothing.
  1. Tulani's Avatar
    Glyph of Incite has been reworked: Using Devastate during Deadly Clam reduces the cost of Heroic Strike and Cleave by an additional 20 Rage.
    Using Devastate during Deadly Clam reduces the cost of Heroic Strike and Cleave by an additional 20 Rage.
    Using Devastate during Deadly Clam
    Deadly Clam
    I want so badly for this to be real.
  1. Idletime's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Qij View Post
    you are aware you can solo Attumen right?

    I'm not sure what your idea of effort is, but I'd love to hear about it.

    prehaps... sitting at an AH? buying gold off gold farmers?

    This black market is a spit to the face to anyone that took the time and EFFORT into grinding dungeons and raids to earn these prestigious mounts.
    ^ Dumbest casual comment here so far.

    This expansion I have seen around 5 million gold come my way. Previous expansion was at 1.3 million. Maybe 200k during TBC. There is no effort in gear from outdated content because normally "reserve" groups are for d-bags, you could also easily pay a guild for drops when they are relevant and guarantee it. But then you would have to give that gold that you put the EFFORT into making to some d-bag elitist who prizes their accomplishments in a video game above everything else. Similar to aforementioned quote above here.

    Sure botters and gold buyers are out there, does that mean they will be the ones profiting? Not hardly. If you only knew what Blizzard is doing right now to anyone exchanging large amounts of gold. Lots of accounts in the past 3 months have been banned with no return, whether they were legit AH players or botters or gold sellers. They will be closely watching this AH as well. It would make easy pickings for them if a mount sells for a million gold. That gives the GMs over it something to do - investigate your account and the money trail. They see your account suddenly take in a million gold from several trades with some level 10 in Org, goodbye to the account and all that gold, thanks for playing. Besides, who's actually stupid enough to spend that much real money on pixels? I know, some people.

    I don't think you will change their minds on it either. This isn't harming you, and the game isn't a game making insane demands on players anymore - we haven't seen that since pre-2.4 Burning Crusade. It's more casual based now, and gives interesting ways for everyone to enjoy the game now. Your EFFORT is recognized when you got Ashes DURING Burning Crusade, or Invincible/Mimi's Head DURING Wrath, not afterwards where you faceroll your way through the content in 30 minutes a week and don't have to deal with mechanics and hundreds of wipes people like ME had to put real effort into back then. So get over yourself. Outdated rewards and content is irrelevant, including the way you retained the rewards.
  1. Stache's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Tycki View Post
    Playing the Auction House and taking advantage of the established economy is something that requires far more skill than zerging the same boss over and over because you alone have more stats than 3 raids of that time combined.
    This guy gets it. More people need to see this...

    Cheers for knowing what's up and having an awesome Jeremiah Gottwald avatar; I salute you sir.
  1. Zoldor's Avatar
    I have a better fix, let me sell those mounts on the AH with no buyout. I don't mind farming them for myself or letting someone buy them off the BMAH, but I don't see a reason not to just let them be BoE and let me sell them on the AH. Well beyond gold farmers etc, but I don't see that as a problem anyways because the BMAH is basically going to make Gold Sellers more money. Sure you CAN get a ban, but its like anything illegal anywhere else, people will still do it and a large portion will get away with it.

    I would totally farm Ashes and sell it for a massive pile of gold, or Mims head, Attunemen etc.
  1. Nyky's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoldor View Post
    I have a better fix, let me sell those mounts on the AH with no buyout. I don't mind farming them for myself or letting someone buy them off the BMAH, but I don't see a reason not to just let them be BoE and let me sell them on the AH. Well beyond gold farmers etc, but I don't see that as a problem anyways because the BMAH is basically going to make Gold Sellers more money. Sure you CAN get a ban, but its like anything illegal anywhere else, people will still do it and a large portion will get away with it.

    I would totally farm Ashes and sell it for a massive pile of gold, or Mims head, Attunemen etc.
    yeah I have same point of view, perhaps gold seller would get more money from it becasue in game there is going to be more Gold "needed". But exactly this reason is why i think Blizzard will implement RMAH to WoW too ... no not let random ppl buying gold from "gold sellers" and random farmers or scammers.
    Thats Economy ! Every patch gold is less and less valuable and if you wont to meke gold MORE valuable you have to create someting where to SPEND it !
    And Blizzard DID it (well is going to make it).
    So fist of all they need to see if ppl are interested IN and they add RMAH to WoW = bye bye "gold sellers" (They will be selling gold to RMAH = money for Blizzard.
  1. Domiku's Avatar
    they need to make all mounts have no restrictions on trading.. So not BOE or BOP or BOA but make it so you can send it to anyone or any toon on your account.. Then i could sell some of the mounts i farmed
  1. Zoldor's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyky View Post
    So fist of all they need to see if ppl are interested IN and they add RMAH to WoW = bye bye "gold sellers" (They will be selling gold to RMAH = money for Blizzard.
    I agree. I feel this is the stair step to a RMAH or RM system of some kind in WoW. Not saying its coming in MoP, but it surely is a test bed mixed with the D3 RMAH. Maybe never in WoW, but I am imagining it in Titan out of the gate.

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