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Update: It seems that the Black Market Auction House is not enabled in this build.

Mists of Pandaria Beta - Build 15689
Two patches in a week is not enough, so how about a third? If you are tired of taking part in PvP on certain maps, it looks like there is now a solution for you! ERR_PVP_BLACKLIST_CAP indicates that players will be able to blacklist maps when queuing for some type of PvP.

Black Market Auction House
The Black Market Auction House allows players to bid on special items that are not normally sold by NPCs. For example, Mei Francis normally sells mounts in Dalaran, but in this case she is auctioning Ashes of Al'ar!

The items for auction vary by server, as other servers are able to bid on Reins of the Blazing Drake, Swift White Hawkstrider, or Riding Turtle.





Armored Druid Bear Forms
Incarnation brings us yet another set of armored druid forms!



New Items
For the full list of new items, check out WoWDB!

Level Type Slot Name
1JunkN/ASky Crystal
1JunkN/ASkyshard
1JunkN/ABag of Helpful Things
1JunkN/ANat's Fishing Chair
1PetN/AHopling
1PetN/AAqua Strider
1PetN/AGrinder
1OtherN/ABattle Horn
500OtherN/ASigil of Power
500OtherN/ASigil of Wisdom
513OtherN/AChimera of Fear
513OtherN/ABreath of the Black Prince
80CookingN/AApprentice Cookbook
80CookingN/AExpert Cookbook
80CookingN/AArtisan Cookbook
80CookingN/AMaster Cookbook
80CookingN/AGrand Master Cookbook
30CookingN/ATest Cookbook
85ClothHandsForager's Gloves
90Item EnhancementN/ALiving Steel Weapon Chain
90Item EnhancementN/AGhost Iron Shield Spike


Achievement Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Pet Battles

Pandaria

Pandaria Raid
  • Sorry, Were You Looking for This? New: Successfully activate the Ancient Mogu Artifact during the Gara'jal the Spiritbinder encounter in Mogu'shan Vaults on Normal or Heroic difficulty.

Temple of Kotmogu

Scenarios
  • A Brewing Storm New: Defeat Borokhula the Destroyer in A Brewing Storm.
  • Beat the Heat New: Defeat Little Liuyang without taking damage from a Flame Wall in the Arena of Annihilation scenario.
  • Big Beach Brew Bash New: Defeat Captain Ook in the Big Beach Brew Bash.
  • Burgled Brew New: Defeat Vengeful Hui in the Burgled Brew scenario.
  • Don't Shake the Keg New: Defeat Borokhula the Destroyer in A Brewing Storm without getting hit by his Swamp Smash.
  • Fancy Footwork New: Complete the Crypt of Forgotten Kings scenario without anyone taking damage from a Cloud of Hatred.
  • For Display Only New: Defeat General Zhu without using any of the artifact orbs in the Temple of Kotmogu scenario.
  • It's a Trap! New: Step on a floor trap in the Crypt of Forgotten Kings scenario.
  • Monkey in the Middle New: Defeat Captain Ook without him getting the orange.
  • Monkey See, Monkey Kill New: Defeat all bosses of the Big Beach Brew Bash.
  • Mucking Around New: Find and kill the Muckscale King during the Assault on Zan'vess scenario.
  • Party of Six New: Finish A Brewing Storm with all six Thunderpaw Guardians still alive.
  • Perfect Delivery New: Return six stolen kegs without any being damaged in the Burgled Brew scenario.
  • Save it for Later New: Complete the Burgled Brew scenario without using any Volatile Greenstone Brew.
  • Spill No Evil New: Complete Stage 2 of the Big Beach Brew Bash without any brew being stolen.
  • Stay Off the Grass New: Don't aggro any Zhun'ji Maulers or Ancestral Horrors in the Temple of Kotmogu scenario.
  • The Arena of Annihilation New: Complete the Arena of Annihilation scenario.
  • The Eye of the Tiger New: Defeat all final bosses - Cloudbender Kobo, Maki Waterblade, and Satay Byu - in the Arena of Annihilation scenario.
  • The Keg Runner New: Complete Stage 2 of the Big Beach Brew Bash before the third wave of hozen pirates arrives.
  • The Perfect Pour New: Brew the Boomer Brew without anyone in your party being hit by Lightning during A Brewing Storm.
  • The Temple of Kotmogu New: Defeat General Zhun in the Temple of Kotmogu scenario.
  • Zero Bug Count New: Kill each type of mantid in the Assault on Zan'vess scenario.

Resurrection

Silvershard Mines
  • End of the Line New: Seize control of a mine cart that is controlled by the opposing team within 20 yards of the depot, and then capture it.
  • Escort Service New: Capture 100 mine carts in Silvershard Mines.
  • Greed is Good New: Gain both the Berserking and Restoration buffs at the same time in Silvershard Mines.
  • Master of Silvershard Mines New: Complete the Silvershard Mines achievements listed below.
  • Mine Cart Courier New: Capture a mine cart using each of the 5 sets of tracks in a single Silvershard Mines match.
  • Mine Mine Mine! New: Kill 100 enemies trying to take control of the mine cart you are defending.
  • My Diamonds and Your Rust New: Win a Silvershard Mines battle without letting the enemy team capture a minecart.
  • The Long Riders New: Capture and escort a minecart from its spawn to a depot without losing control.
  • Three for Three New: Capture 3 mine carts in a single Silvershard Mines battle without dying.



Spell Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Misc Spells
  • Master Forager Allows faster gathering of resources in Pandaria.
  • Huojin Champion - You champion the cause of Huojin Pandaren. All reputation gains while in dungeons will be applied to your standing with them. Instant.
  • Tushui Champion You champion the cause of Tushui Pandaren. All reputation gains while in dungeons will be applied to your standing with them. Instant.
  • Item - Proc Dodge Your attacks have a chance to grant you 3,386 dodge for 15 sec.
  • Item - Proc Intellect Your healing spells have a chance to grant 3,386 Intellect for 10 sec.
  • Confession compels a friendly target to confess a secret. Or maybe it's just subtle mind control. 40 yd range, Instant, 30 min cooldown.
  • 5.0 Rare Item Spawn - Hammer of Ten Thunders Your melee attacks have a chance to blast your enemy with 13,500 nature damage.
  • 5.0 Rare Item Spawn - Jade Infused Blade Your melee attacks have a chance to encase your enemy in jade, stunning them for 3 sec. Only works on creatures level 90 and below. Does not work on players.
  • 5.0 Rare Item Spawn - Yaungol Fire Your melee attacks have a chance to set your enemies ablaze, dealing 882 damage every 2 sec for 10 sec.

Professions - Engineering
  • Cloak Tinker: Goblin Glider Permanently attaches a specialized folding assembly to a cloak, allowing you to deploy a goblin glider and fall slowly for 30 sec. Additionally, the glider has periodic forward thrust and usually won't catch fire. The cloak can only be used once every two minutes and requires an Engineering skill of at least 500 to operate. 5 sec cast. Reagents: Strong Flux (3)

Druid (Forums)
  • Feline Grace New: Reduces damage from falling while in Cat Form.

Talents
  • Cenarion Ward now costs 14.8% of Base Mana, down from 22.4%.
  • Dream of Cenarius now proc increase healing done by your next healing spell by 70%, up from 30%. Tranquility is not affected..
  • Nature's Vigil now increases all damage and healing done by 20% for 30 sec, down from 30%. Single target spells now damage or heal a nearby target for 25% of the damage/healing done, down from 50%.

Feral
  • Rip now has a duration increased by Ravage as well.

Hunter (Forums)

Major Glyphs

Glyphs
  • Glyph of Marking Your Hunter's Mark ability now places a bullseye on your target instead of its usual visual.
  • Glyph of Direction Causes your Misdirection target to appear larger.

Quilen
  • Eternal Guardian New: Returns the spirit to the body, restoring a dead target to life with 20% health and 20% mana. 20 yd range, 2 sec cast, 10 min cooldown.
  • Fearless Roar New: The quilen lets out a fearless roar, increasing the critical strike chance of all party and raid members by 5%. Instant, 45 sec cooldown.

Porcupine
  • Paralyzing Quill New: Fires paralyzing quills around the porcupine, incapacitating all enemies for 2 sec. 0.5 sec cast, 60 sec cooldown.
  • Rest New: You command your pet Porcupine to take a rest. Instant.

Goat
  • Trample New: Your goat tramples the enemy, kicking up an obscuring cloud of dust, causing all enemies within 10 yards to have their melee and ranged attack speed reduced by 20% for 30 sec. Melee range, Instant, 25 sec cooldown.

Water Strider
  • Still Water New: Infuses all party and raid members within vision with still water, increasing their spell power by 10% and their critical strike chance by 5% for 60 min. Instant.
  • Surface Trot New: Allows the Hunter and the Water Strider to walk across water for 10 min. Any damage will cancel the effect. Unlimited range, Instant.

Crane
  • Lullaby New: Puts the target to sleep for 4 sec. 20 yd range, Instant, 60 sec cooldown.
  • Trick New: You command your Crane to do a trick. Instant.

Basilisk
  • Petrifying Gaze New: Turns the target into stone for 3 sec, causing them to be invulnerable. 20 yd range, Instant, 60 sec cooldown.

Mage (Forums)
Frost
  • Frostbolt now also can be cast on your Water Elemental to heal it for (1,442 + 189.2% of SP).

Monk (Forums)

Talents

Brewmaster
  • Desperate Measures New: While at or below 35% health, your Expel Harm has no cooldown.
  • Purifying Brew now has a 1 sec cooldown.
  • Summon Black Ox Statue has been reworked: Sancturary of the Ox (Passive) -Everytime the Monk deals damage equal to 50% of their health, the Black Ox statue will cast Guard on an injured party or raid member within 40 yards absorbing 14,232 damage lasting 30 sec. This effect cannot be cast onto the Monk.

Mistweaver
  • Stance of the Wise Serpent now grants hit and expertise equal to 50% Spirit gained from items or effects, down from any Spirit gained. Now heals for 50% of non-auto attack damage, rather than all damage.
  • Summon Jade Serpent Statue now heals based on non-auto attack damage, rather than all damage.

Minor Glyphs

Major Glyphs
  • Glyph of Leer of the Ox New: Teaches you the spell Leer of the Ox: Your Ox Statue stirs hatred in the target, reducing their movement speed by 50% and causing them to attack your Black Ox Statue for 8 sec. The statue must be within 40 yards of the target. Requires Black Ox Statue to be active.
  • Glyph of Path of Blossoms now increases the number of Fire Blossoms you create by 1, down from 10.

Paladin (Forums)
  • Consecration base damage has been reduced by 24%.
  • Holy Wrath damage has been reduced to 408 and AP scaling reduced to 35.7%, down from 59.5%.
  • Shield of the Righteous base damage has been reduced by 85%. AP scaling has been reduced to 54%, down from 60%.

Priest (Forums / Talent Calculator)
  • Glyph of Confession New: Teaches you the ability Confession. Compels a friendly target to confess a secret.

Major Glyphs
  • Glyph of Lightspring New: Transforms your Lightwell into a Lightspring: Creates a Holy Lightspring. Every 5 sec the Lightspring will attempt to heal party and raid members lower than 50% health for (5,735 + 55.3% of SP) over 6 sec. Attacks done to the target equal to 30% of your total health will cancel the effect. Lightspring lasts for 3 min or until 15 heals are expended.

Glyphs

Shaman (Forums)
Minor Glyphs

Major Glyphs
  • Glyph of Chain Heal has been renamed to Glyph of Unstable Earth. Causes your Earthquake spell to also reduce the movement speed of affected targets by 40% for 3 sec.
  • Glyph of Telluric Currents has been reworked: Causes your Lightning Bolt to restore 10% of your mana when it strikes an enemy.
  • Glyph of Totemic Recall now returns the full mana cost of any recalled totems, rather than 50%.

Warlock (Forums)
  • Dark Intent now costs 4% of Base Mana, down from 26% of Base Mana.
  • Imp Swarm's cooldown is reduced by spell haste.

Demonology

Affliction
  • Drain Soul now causes damage every 2 sec and rewards a Soul Shard after dealing damage twice.
  • Soulburn now has a 1.5 sec cooldown.

Major Glyphs

Warrior (Forums)
  • Deadly Calm New: You enter a battle trance, reducing the cost of your next 3 Heroic Strike or Cleave attacks by 10 Rage. Instant, 60 sec cooldown.

Fury
  • Bloodsurge now has a 20% proc rate, down from 30%.

Arms
  • Taste for Blood now each additional Overpower will hit for an additional 30% damage, up from 20%.

Major Glyphs
  • Glyph of Incite has been reworked: Using Devastate during Deadly Clam reduces the cost of Heroic Strike and Cleave by an additional 20 Rage.



New Maps





Client Strings
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
  • CHALLENGES_RECORD_TIME - Your Best
  • CHALLENGE_MODE_GUILD_BEST - Guild Best
  • CHALLENGE_MODE_MEDAL1 - Bronze
  • CHALLENGE_MODE_MEDAL2 - Silver
  • CHALLENGE_MODE_MEDAL3 - Gold
  • CHALLENGE_MODE_REALM_BEST - Realm Best
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_AZUREMYSTISLE2 - Tide's Hollow
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_BREWMASTERSCENARIO011 - A Brewing Storm
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_BREWMASTERSCENARIO031 - Big Beach Brew Bash
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_BURNINGSTEPPES14 - Blackrock Spire
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_BURNINGSTEPPES15 - Blackrock Caverns
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_BURNINGSTEPPES16 - Blackrock Depths
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_COLDRIDGEVALLEY9 - Frostmane Hovel
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DEATHKNELL12 - Night Web's Hollow
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUNMOROGH10 - Gnomeregan
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUNMOROGH11 - Gol'Bolar Quarry
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUNMOROGH6 - Coldridge Pass
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUNMOROGH7 - The Grizzled Den
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUROTAR10 - Tiragarde Keep
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUROTAR11 - Great Hall
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUROTAR12 - Skull Rock
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUROTAR19 - Dustwind Cave
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUROTAR8 - Burning Blade Coven
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_ELWYNN1 - Fargodeep Mine
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_ELWYNN2 - Lower Mines
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_GHOSTLANDS1 - Amani Catacombs
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_GILNEAS1 - Emberstone Mine
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_GILNEAS2 - Main Floor
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_GILNEAS3 - Upper Floor
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_HEARTOFFEAR1 - Oratorium of the Voice
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_HEARTOFFEAR2 - Heart of Fear
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_KEZAN5 - Kaja'Mine Gold
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_KEZAN6 - Kaja'Mine Silver
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_KEZAN7 - Kaja'Mine Copper
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_KUNLAIPASSSCENARIO1 - Brewmoon Festival
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_KUNLAISUMMITSCENARIO1 - Peak of Serenity
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANPALACE1 - The Crimson Assembly Hall
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANPALACE2 - Vaults of Kings Past
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANPALACE3 - Throne of Ancient Conquerors
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANVAULTS1 - Dias of Conquerors
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANVAULTS2 - The Repository
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANVAULTS3 - Forge of the Endless
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MULGORE6 - Palemane Rock
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MULGORE7 - The Venture Co. Mine
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_NEWTINKERTOWN8 - Frostmane Hold
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_NORTHSHIRE3 - Echo Ridge Mine
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SCHOLOMANCE3 - The Upper Study
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SCHOLOMANCE4 - The Headmaster's Study
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SEARINGGORGE14 - Blackrock Spire
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SEARINGGORGE15 - Blackrock Caverns
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SEARINGGORGE16 - Blackrock Depths
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SHADOWGLEN2 - Shadowthread Cave
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SILITHUS13 - Twilights Run
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TANARIS15 - The Noxious Lair
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TANARIS16 - The Gaping Chasm
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TANARIS17 - Timeless Tunnel
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TANARIS18 - Caverns of Time
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TELDRASSIL3 - Fel Rock
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TELDRASSIL4 - Upper Den
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TELDRASSIL5 - Lower Den
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_THEJADEFORESTSCENARIO1 - Burgled Brew
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_THELOSTISLES1 - Kaja'Mite Cavern
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_THELOSTISLES2 - Volcanoth's Lair
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_THELOSTISLES3 - Mine Tunnels
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_THELOSTISLES4 - Mine Shaft
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TIRISFAL13 - Scarlet Monastery Entrance
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TYRIVESS1 - Assault on Zan'Vess
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_UNGOROCRATER14 - The Slithering Scar
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_VALLEYOFPOWERSCENARIO1 - Temple of Kotmogu
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_WESTFALL4 - Gold Coast Quarry
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_WESTFALL5 - Jangolode Mine
  • ERR_ITEM_UPGRADE_ITEM_TOO_LOW_LEVEL - Item must be level 375 or higher
  • ERR_ITEM_UPGRADE_NO_MORE_UPGRADES - This item is fully upgraded
  • ERR_ITEM_UPGRADE_NO_PATH - Item cannot be upgraded
  • ERR_PETBATTLE_ALL_PETS_DEAD - All pets in your battle slots are dead.
  • ERR_PETBATTLE_NO_PETS_IN_SLOTS - Must have a pet in battle slot.
  • ERR_PVP_BLACKLIST_CAP - You have already blacklisted the maximum number of maps.
  • ERR_PVP_MAP_NOT_FOUND - Blacklisted map not set.
  • ITEM_UPGRADE_NO_MORE_UPGRADES - This item cannot be upgraded anymore.
  • POWER_TYPE_FOOD - Food
  • PRIEST_HOLY_CORE_ABILITY_6 - Use to switch from single-target healing to area healing or damage.
  • SPELL_FAILED_CUSTOM_ERROR_145 - Wait until the Onyx Serpent is overhead directly overhead.
  • SPELL_FAILED_CUSTOM_ERROR_164 - You must obtain a Flight Master's License before using this spell.
  • WHC_DK_2 - Presences have changed. Frost Presence now doubles runic power generation.
  • WHC_DRUID_2 - Feral specialization has been split into Feral, a Cat-based damage specialization and Guardian, a Bear-based tanking specialization.
  • WHC_TITLE_DK_2 - Presences
This article was originally published in forum thread: Mists of Pandaria Beta - Build 15689 started by chaud View original post
Comments 341 Comments
  1. merrin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Finally in all that rage somebody who gets it. Thumbs up.

    Funny how it is always "some idiot kid with too rich parents". Why not a 25 year old intelligent guy who doesn't raid but knows how to play the AH?

    Do you guys always nerdrage about rich old guys who get beautiful girls that you cannot get, fast cars and a big house - because they have maybe more money than you - or can affort other things that you never will? And if you concede that these old farts have maybe worked for that money all their life, do you nerdrage about inherited fortunes?

    ---------- Post added 2012-05-13 at 12:08 PM ----------



    ..and it is always haters like you who think they get to call out "who deserves" something. Glad it isn't you Mr. 25 million gold from three bots. You certainly don't deserve anything but a ban.
    After reading this i wonder if the poster considers himself one of those inteligent 25 y/o´s!

    BM seems to be for the 1% who have this luxury problem of having bought all the fast cars, the expensive women and still got change to spend.. Oh wait you can´t actually buy those in wow.. yet. This is madness you have been playing a socialistic game, NO WAY Romney will shake your hand now Son.
  1. Pancha's Avatar
    Is this really true? Am I finally able to get my Redemption gloves and finish my set? :O This is more than enough for me to come back and farm a shitload of gold!
  1. Soeroah's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by merrin View Post
    ...BM seems to be for the 1% who have this luxury problem...
    See, I don't get why people are so up in arms about how everyone will get an Ashes mount from the AH when only 1% even have that much gold to throw around.

    It's the same as account-wide mounts. People assume that since all the characters on one account will have access to a rare mount, they'll be less common, but it's not like someone can log in to two characters on their account at once. Just because some rare mounts appear on the BMAH doesn't mean they'll suddenly be owned by everyone; we don't know how often they show up, what the chances are, and the fact that only one person can win the mount any time it pops up, has to compete against the Horde and Alliance players on their realm who want it, and has to fork over potentially MASSIVE amounts of gold to the point they might only be able to afford two or three purchases means the mounts won't be as common as everyone seems to think.

    Depending on the rarity and availability, I'd even be more inclined to say getting an Ashes mount from the BMAH is more difficult and worthy of praise than getting it from TK is by this point. Obviously it was special back at level 70, but not so much anymore.
  1. Skullchukka's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by inyu View Post
    How do you check that ? Gold stats are not displayed in armory stadistics.
    Yeah that is correct, it's not displayed. However once you're one of the big players, you get to know the other big players. By scanning the AH through sellers, watching trade chat/server forum for big trades, noting down (on your memory) the top sellers of certain items (gems, scrolls, mats) and via connections (knowing what the bank character is of your rival big player, or simply chatting about assets ^^) you get some certain ideas. This doesn't mean that there's a small chance of some rogue player who sits 24/7 on AH with disguised level 1 alts or something, but I always have assumed them to be gold sellers. The key to recognize the main players is to watch how much they are willing to give for rare items, it's almost always proportional with the total capital they own.

    Nr #1 was an ally with 4m gold, #2 was also an ally who had somewhere between 3.5m and 4, #3 was a hordie like me, he had close to 3m. I'm sure within those 3 months I haven't played, someone has surpassed me though
  1. Qij's Avatar
    brining back items that have a very small drop chance is one thing, bringing back sets of gear that have been discontinued for years is on an entirely different level. Lets bring back black and plagued proto drakes, glad mounts, black qiraji battle tanks, armani war bear, both ZG mounts and hell why not atiesh as well?

    This game will offer nothing to people that have been playing for a very long time and took the time and effort to obtain said items, blizzard have always been money hungry and have tried to keep the casual players ( the larger % of players ) happy. but this is pathetic. This game is going to get so dull. The best part of an mmo is to have a unique character. To have something that others don't, having items to show others what you have achieved in the game. There are a lot of things that should have been discontinued in wotlk that where extremely hard to achieve, but this is the worst idea in the long sad history of bad ideas. ( Dr. Ian Malcom)
  1. Thirteen's Avatar
    Ashes of Al'ar? Who cares ;_; TIER THREE IS BACK!
  1. merrin's Avatar
    and for only 195000 pr fragment you can buy ateish
  1. Sequence's Avatar
    "the power of the last black dragon are yours to wield"
    Inc. New legendary.
  1. hasslehoof's Avatar
    So much qq over 2-3 screenshots, we don't even know how this is going to work, for all we know all these rare and discontinued armor pieces could be something that pops up once in a Blue moon and could go for hundred's of thousands if not million's of Gold.

    And to anyone saying 'lol gnna buy goldz from dem farmerz!!11' I truly feel sorry for you if you have to spend money to make gold these days, I'm making close to 10k a day from doing my JC daily, cutting a few gems and then listing them followed by me logging off for the day.
  1. Calypso's Avatar
    The black market is a bad idea all it does is support the goldsellers.

    Mounts like ashes of alar should not be bought with gold, they should be paid for with sweat and tears of countless weeks/months/years of farming
  1. Hoothor's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Calypso View Post
    The black market is a bad idea all it does is support the goldsellers.

    Mounts like ashes of alar should not be bought with gold, they should be paid for with sweat and tears of countless weeks/months/years of farming
    The Black Market is a good idea, it finally gives people a gold sink, somewhere to spend all that money. The only way to kill gold selling is to make gold so worthless that no one wants it, and that will kill a large portion of the game. Gold selling is an issue that is inherent in any MMO space and tbh unless you want Blizzard to start selling gold themselves it will not go away.
  1. Cykor's Avatar
    Black Market Auction House - GZ Blizzard - more gold will be sell on ebay.com becouse of briliant idea
    I think Blizzard sell gold on some auctions and this time they whant make it almoust legal. gz blizz
  1. Qij's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoothor View Post
    The only way to kill gold selling is to make gold so worthless that no one wants it, and that will kill a large portion of the game
    Because buying anything you want off the AH wont.
  1. bregtann's Avatar
    First, I am not one who has fancy mounts and legendaries or even old tier sets precious to me. And yet I find this a terrible idea, or rather an idea implemented in a terrible way.

    This must be the best news to gold sellers and account hackers since the invention of Chinese labor camps.

    The only sound part of it is to have a gold sink that has a market price component to it: A gold sink where the prices are determined by bidding is by default more effective than previous gold sinks (Kirin Tor Ring, Paris Hilton Bag etc) with set price. BUT, they really should have limited it to a few select items. And also not to the stuff that requires farming dungeons.

    Cata: "Everyone standing in Stormwind/Orgrimmar doing nothing. World dead."
    Run-up to MoP: Blizz realize that is bad and set out to mke people go out into the world.
    MoP beta: Introduce a feature that makes running old dungeons and raids moot once again. Just when transmog had finally managed to kick some life into it.
    MoP: Everyone standing around doing nothing, after content is finished after 1 month, doing nothing because the fancy stuff is now bought off BM. Rich folks alt-tabbed to gold seller web sites. World dead.

    Excellent plan Blizz!
  1. RagingHard's Avatar
    Most of you have no idea what it means to make money off the AH. You can't just go there once a day and expect to sell a lot, there are always people trying to undercut you. If you think it's so easy then go do it yourself, nablets. I earned my gold and if I choose to camp the AH isntead of raiding then that is my choice, I'm free to enjoy the game in whatever way I like.

    Bunch of whiners.
  1. bregtann's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Thirteen View Post
    Ashes of Al'ar? Who cares ;_; TIER THREE IS BACK!
    Wouldn't it have made more sense to add T3 to some loot table somewhere instead, so people had to work for it again?
  1. Faithshield's Avatar
    Black Market seems like it only lets you bid - no buyout.

    So the super rich will can keep bidding even when it reaches 100k gold.

    Basically, the average joe will not get anything out of this. It will only enable gold farmers (and dare I say, gold buyers?) to purchase the super rare stuff.

    Really goes against the spirit of the game, I think. Time for an OccupyWoW movement? lol ;-)
  1. bregtann's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by hasslehoof View Post
    And to anyone saying 'lol gnna buy goldz from dem farmerz!!11' I truly feel sorry for you if you have to spend money to make gold these days, I'm making close to 10k a day from doing my JC daily, cutting a few gems and then listing them followed by me logging off for the day.
    You do understand the fundamentals of economics I hope? That YOU ca only make that gold because you are such a small minority, making it off the laziness of the large majority. If everyone should do what you do, you would literally make zero gold profit. (Actually everyone would make a small loss due to the AH cut).

    I keep reading these comments all the time, traders saying "LOL you nabs, you could all make a ton of gold with no effort like I do", when in fact it is only possible because most people don't. Double the amount of people doing it, and you would have to share the profits with twice as many.
  1. Knopperz's Avatar
    Somebody else thinking that the new Druid Forms look absolut ridiculous ?
    I dunno man, my once so beloved class turned to major pile of crap since cata

    bear form looks like a fucking christmas tree.
  1. Ragezero's Avatar
    Black Market? Well hell no! People can just easily farm mounts already, but this is a pain for everyone who already did.
    Now every shitty nub can get a rare mount by just having the gold. Really, not good.

    Getting TCG mounts on there is good, making them obtainable ingame finally, instead of by doing outgame actions, but the rare drops should stay rare drops.
    This is an insult to all of us collectors who did quite some effort to obtain our mount collections.

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