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Valor Point Item Upgrades
In Mists of Pandaria, Valor Points can be used to upgrade your gear. This feature is not in the game yet and not intended to be previewed at this time. All of the numbers used here are fake (except the item level 375 requirement) and for demonstration purposes only.

  • The minimum item level to upgrade gear is 375.
  • The left side shows the gear item level (500) and the player's item level (489).
  • The right side shows the increase in item level, and the new item level (525) and player's item level (491).
  • Right now all stats are upgraded, you can see the increase in individual stats on the right side (+35) and the new stat amount (255).
  • This example only shows one stat, but in the final product all of the stats on an item will be increased.
  • Each item has a limited number of times it can be upgraded, which is shown at the top right (2/3), with the upgrade cost directly above it (300).



Mists of Pandaria Music Update
The previous beta build added even more music!



South Korea Bans Botting
The South Korean Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism is preparing a new law that will outlaw virtual item trades and farming items for commercial use in games. This new law is supposed to encourage students to avoid wasting time and improve the environment of games. The law prohibits players from using software that allows characters to farm items in a game without the need for a human to be playing.

The article in The Korea Times doesn't make it very clear, but this ban may also impact Arcade games that sell something you have to physically go and purchase to redeem for an item in game.

The Ministry claims that the "main purpose of the games is for entertainment and should be used for academic and other good purposes", which doesn't include farming items for money! They also mentioned that virtual item trades contribute to many problems in society, including teenage crime. The police department is supposed to enforce this law which has a maximum punishment of a $43,000 USD fine and up to five years in prison.



Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Forced Cross Realm PVP
When we go live, cross realm zones won't put PvP and PvE realms together.

During beta testing, you're going to see a lot of crazy stuff. Please keep in mind that beta is not a demo of the game. It is a testing environment in which we can get feedback from players but also in which we can test out many of our new features, some of which, like this one, are quite technically complex.

If you find yourself overly frustrated by the chaotic nature of beta, whether it's from cross-realm testing, broken quests or class bugs, my suggestion would be to wait until we launch. It's not worth getting frustrated over. You'll have plenty of opportunities to explore Pandaria. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Rogue (Forums)
Rogue Feedback
He hasn't answere anything about the Prep/Step issue.
Again, I feel like we have made plenty of responses to the topic. I think it's one of those deals where because some players don't like the answer, they say the topic has not been addressed.

For the record, as many players will tell you, Sub is nearly impossible to balance with both Preparation and Shadowstep. On the other hand, having two talents that are both so good that you want them both and have to think long and hard about which one to take and perhaps even swap back and forth from time to time is pretty much exactly what we are trying to deliver with the new talent system. Are rogues doomed in PvP without both? I doubt that. Is it hard t o choose? Of course, and that's the point. If we conclude that it's just too cruel to ask rogues to choose between them, we'd likely just cut Prep from the game and perhaps lower a few cooldowns slightly. I really hope though that we aren't in a space where every cool talent has to become mandatory or deleted.

Leeching and paralytic locking each other out
Again, asked and answered. We said that we understand that very optimized rogues won't want both talents because you can only use one at a time. That depends a very great deal on how often you'd use the competing talents. If you find yourself using leeching poison then swapping to paralytic often, you may be better off just keeping both talents than constantly swapping. A Disc priest (on live) doesn't necessarily drop the Atonement talent evey time they think they might not Smite, though very min/max players probably do.

We're going to be underfunded for the first patch of MoP

Do you have any evidence of this? Even anecdotes are better than nothing (though not much better). The classes on beta are getting pretty well balanced at this point at both level 85 and 90 (modulo the occasional bug that creeps in), so if you think you're seeing something we're not, please let us know.

As an aside, I'm not a huge fan of simulations as evidence, because it requires us to debug them first. I used to spend more effort doing that, but it's a chore, and my time is probably better spent elsewhere. Sims are fantastic for suggesting to you that you might want to try a different rotation or stat allocation. They aren't great for "Hey Bliz, my dps is low. Please buff."

Dirty Tricks just sounds like a bug. I don't have our bug database in front of me, but it's hard to make assumptions about neglect based on when a bug gets fixed, so long as it does before launch. It could be that the developer is waiting on a code change to fix the bug. It could be that he or she is pondering how to fix it or if a redesign in the functionality (not the base design) is warranted.

I've been doing this a long time, and one of the truths I have uncovered is that apparently easy bugs are often the hardest to fix and things you predict would take weeks of programming time can be done in a few lines. It's hard to diagnose from the outside.

If you see bugs, report them in the bug forum. Once you have done so, stop worrying about it until we get close to launch.
(Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

MMO-Report
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This article was originally published in forum thread: Valor Point Item Upgrades, MoP Music Update, Botting Ban, Blue Posts, MMO Report started by chaud View original post
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  1. 93sika's Avatar
    This is well awesome - simply can't wait for the new items
  1. Neichus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by toychristopher View Post
    900 valor points to upgrade one item? So that's like over 10,000 valor points to upgrade all your gear.... I'm guessing valor points are gonna start dropping like candy in Mist of Pandaria.
    Or it's not expected that you fully upgrade all your gear always.

    From what I've gathered what Blizzard doesn't like is Valor spikes in value early in a content patch then falls off steadily. Eventually nobody's running dungeons because they don't need the gear Valor purchases. This changes the demand for Valor to be more constant. I'm sure different guilds will have varying expectations from their players.
  1. theredviola's Avatar
    Great. One MORE thing for raiding guilds to require for their raiders and new members.
  1. Grym's Avatar
    I can't really tell if I like this idea or not.

    In a good way, there are more means to use VP. Using DS as example, and assuming I didn't carry forward T12 HC gear. I would start by buying the cloak and relic (BiS as no drops in DS), then rings x2 (random rings drops are awesome chances), then after that, may be neck/bracer/boots, however that will depends if raid drops being nice to me, I was lucky to get raid drop boots and bracer rather quickly so didn't have to waste time to buy those. And I will be getting tier from raids so wouldn't buy any of the pieces with VP, so, I am already done with VP. The new VP usage will give us more use for VP before you see bracers boots and other future VP BoE being flooded everywhere.

    However use can also be limited. From what we see, 1 items can upgrade 2-3 times (and possible that each item varies), however, would you really upgrade a LFR piece? I know I wouldn't, normal piece? If it is something I am likely to use for a LONG time (belt from Spine for example, lasted me long time before we killed Spine HC), then may be, otherwise, unless it is HC raid gear, I probably won't bother upgrading (pretty much how I treat epic gems). And if many people do the same, then the issue pretty much isn't solved in anyway at all as all the HC raiders will just save up enough VP for when they do get a HC raid drop to upgrade it to max.
  1. Venziir's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by toychristopher View Post
    900 valor points to upgrade one item? So that's like over 10,000 valor points to upgrade all your gear.... I'm guessing valor points are gonna start dropping like candy in Mist of Pandaria.
    Gotta love how some people always misses the "All of the numbers used here are fake and for demonstration purposes only." bit...
  1. Zumzumzum's Avatar
    This feature is going to be a nightmare for addons-websites
    But I like the idea !

    Perhaps some DS items will be worth upgrading (Cunning of the cruel ?) ?
  1. Azgraal's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by toychristopher View Post
    900 valor points to upgrade one item? So that's like over 10,000 valor points to upgrade all your gear.... I'm guessing valor points are gonna start dropping like candy in Mist of Pandaria.
    Blizzard explained before why this was going to happen: imagine you do a full run of the current raid instance on week, and you get absolutely no gear, you can always upgrade your old gear. It's not supposed to be exactly as strong as a new item, but its something..
  1. Riavan's Avatar
    I hope it means that if I get LFR and upgrade it twice, it will be better than normal who has not upgraded at all.
  1. FishHead's Avatar
    Oh boy, a new grind feature.

    Why not add actual bosses to upgrade your gear?
  1. MasterHamster's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FishHead View Post
    Oh boy, a new grind feature.

    Why not add actual bosses to upgrade your gear?
    Because they are doing so AS WELL?!
  1. Sting's Avatar
    Dust 514 PS3 only? I am disappoint.... Planetside 2 looks promising though.
  1. delus's Avatar
    wouldn't you just be expected to upgrade your raid gear to max lvl as soon as you get it or will there be some sort an upgrade lock on current gear?
  1. Halabash's Avatar
    upgrading the item seems to be a good way to extend the life/usefulness of an item if rng is not helping, what would make the most sense is if the higher ilvl items have a higher number of times they can be upgraded so that way there isn't too much overlap with new content drops. Gear dropping from boss kills is probably the best way to obtain "stepping stone" loot. ***incoming tangent***I wish loot mattered less though, good players just play differently, give the player a tool to use during the fight that when used correctly will provide an 50% survival rate where the remaining 50% is split 30/20 respectively, between player positioning/ coordinated movement and gear . so that way if you didn't get the best optimized set its ok because you have a clear grasp on the fight mechanics, which more important anyway.
  1. arons4's Avatar
    Wouldn't using bots to farm be the opposite of wasting the korean students time? I mean instead of doing it by hand.
  1. emanresu's Avatar
    Botting sucks and helps to ruin the economy in a game for normal players but a better game design would prevent or not benefit from massive grinding like Diablo 3 does.

    Five years in prison is ridiculous for something as petty as this though, I can't believe Joe Bloggs running a herbing bot in WoW would be sent to prison under this law, people get less time for physically hurting others or robbery.
  1. nyc81991's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Pannekaker View Post
    I sort of hope not, they would kinda lose their legendarity if you could simply upgrade them. :P

    So what is legendary about a weapon that sits in your bag / bank and no one ever gets to see it unless you are running around a City with it on?


    Legionaries should be able to get upgraded.
  1. Fumsy's Avatar
    This is wonderful for those of us who go weeks without drops. I wonder what sort of restrictions will be implemented with regards to the current BiS gear. Upgrading one of the current level 397 non-heroic items would make that item BiS, and upgrading a heroic 410 item would almost certainly make that item overpowered. Surely there is more to this than we understand right now.
  1. stonhinge's Avatar
    Raiding is also only one of 3 ways to get VP in MoP. There's also random heroics and dailies - and there's no limit on the number of dailies you can do in a day. 5 VP a quest isn't great, but it's better than nothing. Presumably the weekly cap will stay, and those of us who aren't clearing all the raids right away can still cap out, provided we're willing to put in an effort - which is not really different than it is now.

    It WILL help those of us who have horrible luck with drops. A good example would be caster shaman helms in Firelands. Ragnaros was your only choice. Being able to upgrade the previous tier's helm would have offset some of the frustration in either not getting to Ragnaros for a while, or it just not dropping when you did kill him.

    However, it's not going to help stat bloat. We'll definitely need an item squish next expansion.
  1. Bombkirby's Avatar
    Basically it seems to be put into place to keep VP valuable even if you're raiding. Typically heroic raiders have little interest in VP once they get decked out, but now they'll have reasons to keep at those hundreds of dailies/factions, scenarios, dungeons and etc. Keeps people from getting bored and keeps random queues filled with people with brains!
  1. Purplekitti's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by toychristopher View Post
    900 valor points to upgrade one item? So that's like over 10,000 valor points to upgrade all your gear.... I'm guessing valor points are gonna start dropping like candy in Mist of Pandaria.
    Did you read at all? The values are not even in-game and are just PLACEHOLDERS input by MMO-C. Crikey, if you're going to leave a comment at least read the post first...

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