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Valor Point Item Upgrades
In Mists of Pandaria, Valor Points can be used to upgrade your gear. This feature is not in the game yet and not intended to be previewed at this time. All of the numbers used here are fake (except the item level 375 requirement) and for demonstration purposes only.

  • The minimum item level to upgrade gear is 375.
  • The left side shows the gear item level (500) and the player's item level (489).
  • The right side shows the increase in item level, and the new item level (525) and player's item level (491).
  • Right now all stats are upgraded, you can see the increase in individual stats on the right side (+35) and the new stat amount (255).
  • This example only shows one stat, but in the final product all of the stats on an item will be increased.
  • Each item has a limited number of times it can be upgraded, which is shown at the top right (2/3), with the upgrade cost directly above it (300).



Mists of Pandaria Music Update
The previous beta build added even more music!



South Korea Bans Botting
The South Korean Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism is preparing a new law that will outlaw virtual item trades and farming items for commercial use in games. This new law is supposed to encourage students to avoid wasting time and improve the environment of games. The law prohibits players from using software that allows characters to farm items in a game without the need for a human to be playing.

The article in The Korea Times doesn't make it very clear, but this ban may also impact Arcade games that sell something you have to physically go and purchase to redeem for an item in game.

The Ministry claims that the "main purpose of the games is for entertainment and should be used for academic and other good purposes", which doesn't include farming items for money! They also mentioned that virtual item trades contribute to many problems in society, including teenage crime. The police department is supposed to enforce this law which has a maximum punishment of a $43,000 USD fine and up to five years in prison.



Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Forced Cross Realm PVP
When we go live, cross realm zones won't put PvP and PvE realms together.

During beta testing, you're going to see a lot of crazy stuff. Please keep in mind that beta is not a demo of the game. It is a testing environment in which we can get feedback from players but also in which we can test out many of our new features, some of which, like this one, are quite technically complex.

If you find yourself overly frustrated by the chaotic nature of beta, whether it's from cross-realm testing, broken quests or class bugs, my suggestion would be to wait until we launch. It's not worth getting frustrated over. You'll have plenty of opportunities to explore Pandaria. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Rogue (Forums)
Rogue Feedback
He hasn't answere anything about the Prep/Step issue.
Again, I feel like we have made plenty of responses to the topic. I think it's one of those deals where because some players don't like the answer, they say the topic has not been addressed.

For the record, as many players will tell you, Sub is nearly impossible to balance with both Preparation and Shadowstep. On the other hand, having two talents that are both so good that you want them both and have to think long and hard about which one to take and perhaps even swap back and forth from time to time is pretty much exactly what we are trying to deliver with the new talent system. Are rogues doomed in PvP without both? I doubt that. Is it hard t o choose? Of course, and that's the point. If we conclude that it's just too cruel to ask rogues to choose between them, we'd likely just cut Prep from the game and perhaps lower a few cooldowns slightly. I really hope though that we aren't in a space where every cool talent has to become mandatory or deleted.

Leeching and paralytic locking each other out
Again, asked and answered. We said that we understand that very optimized rogues won't want both talents because you can only use one at a time. That depends a very great deal on how often you'd use the competing talents. If you find yourself using leeching poison then swapping to paralytic often, you may be better off just keeping both talents than constantly swapping. A Disc priest (on live) doesn't necessarily drop the Atonement talent evey time they think they might not Smite, though very min/max players probably do.

We're going to be underfunded for the first patch of MoP

Do you have any evidence of this? Even anecdotes are better than nothing (though not much better). The classes on beta are getting pretty well balanced at this point at both level 85 and 90 (modulo the occasional bug that creeps in), so if you think you're seeing something we're not, please let us know.

As an aside, I'm not a huge fan of simulations as evidence, because it requires us to debug them first. I used to spend more effort doing that, but it's a chore, and my time is probably better spent elsewhere. Sims are fantastic for suggesting to you that you might want to try a different rotation or stat allocation. They aren't great for "Hey Bliz, my dps is low. Please buff."

Dirty Tricks just sounds like a bug. I don't have our bug database in front of me, but it's hard to make assumptions about neglect based on when a bug gets fixed, so long as it does before launch. It could be that the developer is waiting on a code change to fix the bug. It could be that he or she is pondering how to fix it or if a redesign in the functionality (not the base design) is warranted.

I've been doing this a long time, and one of the truths I have uncovered is that apparently easy bugs are often the hardest to fix and things you predict would take weeks of programming time can be done in a few lines. It's hard to diagnose from the outside.

If you see bugs, report them in the bug forum. Once you have done so, stop worrying about it until we get close to launch.
(Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

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This article was originally published in forum thread: Valor Point Item Upgrades, MoP Music Update, Botting Ban, Blue Posts, MMO Report started by chaud View original post
Comments 104 Comments
  1. |Dexter|'s Avatar
    toychristopher - your not reading posts before comment.... All of the numbers used here are fake and for demonstration purposes only!!
  1. darqhur's Avatar
    I think I am going to wait for the official blog about the vp upgrades. It sounds like a nice idea, but I don't think it's worth it to speculate with the small amount of information I have now.
  1. Lemons's Avatar
    I wonder how many ways there are to say "rogues are fine"? I guess we'll find out if this continues.
  1. ayashi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by toychristopher View Post
    900 valor points to upgrade one item? So that's like over 10,000 valor points to upgrade all your gear.... I'm guessing valor points are gonna start dropping like candy in Mist of Pandaria.
    i'm more worried by the jump of 25ilvl per upgrade (for reference going from t13 LFR to t13 HEROIC is 26 ilvl). Having an item going from 425 to 500 is A LOT. Way too much.
    We are talking taking a donjon item and turning it into something equivalen to heroic raid drop here !
    Upgrading an t14 heroic drop like this will probably brake the game even in t15 ...
  1. Zephs's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by toychristopher View Post
    900 valor points to upgrade one item? So that's like over 10,000 valor points to upgrade all your gear.... I'm guessing valor points are gonna start dropping like candy in Mist of Pandaria.
    Who says you're gonna have valor point items in all slots in MoP? Nowadays you only have neck, cloak and a ring if you're raiding on a decent level. What's the point in making assumptions and QQ about it?
  1. ayashi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by chaud View Post
    [*]The minimum item level to upgrade gear is 375
    Therefor every piece of gear above 375 is upgradable, not only "valor gear".
    Btw i belive i remember a blue post saying that there will be no valor gear anymore anyway.
  1. TwentyNine's Avatar
    3 upgrades means essentially every single item will be [Ladeeda Belt U1] or [Chest Item U3] or [Simple Wand U0]... interesting way to invoke "tiers within items".
  1. belgicanofl's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zephs View Post
    Who says you're gonna have valor point items in all slots in MoP? Nowadays you only have neck, cloak and a ring if you're raiding on a decent level. What's the point in making assumptions and QQ about it?
    If you would only just read for once instead of only looking at pictures, you'd know the numbers were made up.

    I think the numbers might start high, but they'll become smaller each time u use an upgrade, ex :

    1/3 = 15 ilvl
    2/3 = 10 ilvl
    3/3 = 05 ilvl

    Aight, we'll see what happens ^^
  1. Ultraviolet Harmonies's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by ayashi View Post
    i'm more worried by the jump of 25ilvl per upgrade (for reference going from t13 LFR to t13 HEROIC is 26 ilvl). Having an item going from 425 to 500 is A LOT. Way too much.
    We are talking taking a donjon item and turning it into something equivalen to heroic raid drop here !
    Upgrading an t14 heroic drop like this will probably brake the game even in t15 ...
    All numbers are made up. These numbers are made up. They are not final. The 25 item level jump is a number Chaud made up. You are wasting your time here.
  1. ayashi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultraviolet Harmonies View Post
    All numbers are made up. These numbers are made up. They are not final. The 25 item level jump is a number Chaud made up. You are wasting your time here.
    Yes, and and the valor cost of 300 is made up and could be anything from 5 to 1'000 valor. heck it could be something other than valor used, like some rep token instead.
    and the 2/3 is made up, could be a single upgrade or 10 upgrades per item too.
    and the ilv jump is made up, could be a single ilvl per upgrade to 50ilvl, who knows ?
    and the stat jump is also made up, heck could be anthing really, why not a +100 agi instead.
    actually the pic is mostly useless and doesn't tell us anything else that gear will be upgradable is some way or an other.
    So i wonder, what was the point of the picture in the first place ?
  1. good diu bro's Avatar
    Yea right, a ban. China have that law as well.
    Problem is, how can is enforce it? Base on tip offs? It is even more difficult than arresting bit torrent seeders.
    But well, we need to see how is the first arrest and case is actually implemented in court.

    Oh and about the upgrade, I would say it is to compensate for certain gear that on the table but never drops for the group, to remove some RNG factor on raid progression.
    But given the price now (900 for 3/3?), I would say it is a little too cheap. No way upgrading a LFG chest is cheaper than buying a brand new valor chest.
  1. shamestia's Avatar
    Does this mean they aren't going to be making new gear on the valor vendors and it's just upgrades the entire expac from t14 off pieces?
  1. Easo's Avatar
    Again people are not reading. EVERY number is FAKE, and are here for demonstration purposes. ONLY REAL number is required minimum item level...
  1. Desdonde's Avatar
    Just what we need, another government prying more into our personal lives.

    I hope no one supports the insane tyrannical actions that Korea has just proposed.
  1. kojinshugi's Avatar
    It seems like everyone is missing the obvious implication of this law as it pertains to the RMAH. Does the fact that the RMAH is Blizzard sanctioned change anything about it being illegal in SK?
  1. jbombard's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by shamestia View Post
    Does this mean they aren't going to be making new gear on the valor vendors and it's just upgrades the entire expac from t14 off pieces?
    My understanding of it that Blizzard didn't like having 2 currencies to buy gear with, the last I heard was that justice was used to buy items and valor was going to be used to upgrade items. As to what kind of items will be available for justice points and when I haven't heard anything.
  1. Rude Hero's Avatar
    I'm just not sure what the purpose of valor points are now.

    Originally the idea was to give players that couldn't get that one piece to drop an alternate route to a piece. Now it's just going to be another step extending the 'acquire, enchant, gem, transmog (whatever)' process as well as put a limit on it.

    I suppose now it's intended to be for people who just can't get that one heroic piece, but it's going to end up being another obligation upon winning a new item.
  1. sharkwouter's Avatar
    Can you upgrade tier 13 heroic items to still be usefull?
  1. Eliot123's Avatar
    The upgrade system looks interesting. :O
  1. Adominitis's Avatar
    So it seems that Cataclysm was the dev's coffee break so to speak. Glad to see they haven't ran out of creative ideas just yet, i'm definitely looking forward to MoP being they haven't created hype and beta even with bugs and what not is still an enjoyable experience. However, the one thing i hope they will finally do is actually optimize the game.

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