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Account Wide Mounts Update
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
We have been discussing this issue the last couple of days and we made the call to make the following mounts account-wide:


At this point, the only mounts that are not account-wide are either class specific or rewarded from PVP. We feel like both these types of mounts should still be character specific.

Thanks for your feedback on this issue!

Challenge Mode Valor Rewards
Valor Point rewards were added to the Challenge Mode UI in a recent patch, but we have no word on if they are final yet. As a comparison, doing a random Heroic Dungeon rewards 60 Valor Points, and a random scenario rewards 30 Valor Points.

It is very unlikely the times that you see are final, as they are the same for every dungeon.



Heroic Scholomance Video Guide
Tonight we take a look at the revamped Heroic Scholomance!



Loot

Level Type Slot Name
463ArmorTankBackPhantasmal Drape
463ArmorTrinketSearing Words
463ArmorMeleeTrinketLessons of the Darkmaster
463ArmorSpell DPSTrinketPrice of Progress
463ArmorTankNeckNecklace of the Dark Blaze
463ArmorSpell DPSNeckAnarchist's Pendant
463ClothSpell DPSHeadBarovian Ritual Hood
463ClothSpell DPSWaistIncineration Belt
463ClothSpell DPSLegsLeggings of Unleashed Anguish
463ClothSpell DPSWristsDeadwalker Bracers
463LeatherSpell SpiritHandsRattling Gloves
463LeatherPhysical DPSHeadSoulburner Crown
463LeatherPhysical DPSWaistIcewrath Belt
463LeatherPhysical DPSLegsGhostwoven Legguards
463LeatherPhysical DPSHandsTombstone Gauntlets
463MailSpell SpiritChestShivbreaker Vest
463MailSpell SpiritWristsShadow Puppet Bracers
463MailSpell SpiritHandsGloves of Explosive Pain
463MailPhysical DPSFeetBone Golem Boots
463PlateTankShouldersVigorsteel Spaulders
463PlateTankChestBreastplate of Wracking Souls
463PlateTankFeetWraithplate Treads
463PlateMeleeHandsDark Blaze Gauntlets
463PlateSpell SpiritShouldersShoulderguards of Painful Lessons
463ShieldSpell SpiritOff HandMetanoia Shield
463Two-handed AxeMeleeTwo HandGoresoaked Headreaper
463Two-handed SwordMeleeTwo HandGravetouch Greatsword
463WandSpell DPSRangedNecromantic Wand


Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Scholomance
Individuals seeking to master the powers of undeath know well of Scholomance, the infamous school of necromancy located in the dark and foreboding crypts beneath Caer Darrow. In recent years, several of the instructors have changed, but the institution remains under the control of Darkmaster Gandling, a particularly sadistic and insidious practitioner of necromantic magic.

Maps




Achievements
  • Heroic: Scholomance - Defeat Darkmaster Gandling in Scholomance on Heroic Difficulty.
  • Attention to Detail - Defeat Jandice Barov without ever eliminating a false image in Scholomance on Heroic Difficulty.
  • Rattle No More - Defeat Rattlegore without allowing him to gain more than 5 stacks of Rusting in Scholomance on Heroic Difficulty.
  • Sanguinarian - Defeat a Krastinovian Carver that has 99 stacks of Boiling Bloodthirst in Scholomance on Heroic Difficulty.
  • School's Out Forever - Defeat 60 Expired Test Subjects within 20 seconds in Scholomance on Heroic Difficulty.

Instructor Chillheart
  • Stage One: First Lesson
    • Ice Wall - Instructor Chillheart summons a wall of ice that slowly sweeps across the room, instantly killing any player it touches.
    • Wrack Soul - Instructor Chillheart shatters the soul of a player, inflicting 15,000 Shadow damage every second for 10 sec. When Wrack Soul expires, it jumps to another player.
    • Ice Wrath - Instructor Chillheart wreaths a player in ice for 10 sec, causing them to inflict 45,000 Frost damage to all of their allies within 3 yards every second.
    • Touch of the Grave - Instructor Chillheart's icy touch causes her next 10 melee attacks to inflict an additional 45,000 Frost damage.
    • Frigid Grasp - Instructor Chillheart summons ice at a player's location that explodes from the ground, inflicting 200,000 Frost damage to all nearby players.
  • Stage Two: Second Lesson - When Instructor Chillheart's physical body dies, the foul magic that animated her escapes back to her phylactery. Fragments of Instructor Chillheart's soul escape the phylactery and animate the tomes of magic scattered throughout the classroom.
    • The Anarchist Arcanist
      • Arcane Bomb - The Anarchist Arcanist creates an orb of magic that explodes on impact, inflicting 60,000 Arcane damage to all players within 2 yards.
    • Antonidas' Self Help Guide to Standing in Fire
      • Burn - Antonidas' Self Help Guide to Standing in Fire inflicts 60,000 Fire damage to all players within 2 yards of it.
    • Wander's Colossal Book of Shadow Puppets
      • Shadow Bolt - Wander's Colossal Book of Shadow Puppets hurls bolts of dark magic at random players, inflicting 37,500 Shadow damage.

Jandice Barov
  • Wondrous Rapidity - Jandice rears her staff back with a flash of wondrous Arcane force, unleashing a barrage of attacks that inflict 175,000 Arcane damage in a cone in front of her.
  • Gravity Flux - Jandice creates a gravity distortion field that inflicts 175,000 Shadow damage to all enemies who enter it, knocking them back and causing them to briefly go blind.
  • Phantasmal Images - At 66% and 33% health Jandice dissipates into thin air, creating multiple illusions of herself. Destroying the one illusion Jandice hides behind forces her back into the fray. In Heroic difficulty, defeating the wrong image causes a Flash Bang, inflicting 60,000 Arcane damage to all enemies.
    • Whirl of Illusion - Whereas Jandice hides behind images of herself, the real Jandice dances in a Whirl of Illusion, inflicting 15,000 Arcane damage to all enemies every 1 seconds.

Rattlegore
  • Rusting - Rattlegore's dull blades rust with each successful melee attack, increasing damage by 10% but lowering attack speed by 5% and movement speed by 5% for 15 sec. This effect stacks.
  • Bone Spike - Rattlegore launches a powerful spike of bone at a random player, inflicting 225,000 Physical damage and knocking them back a great distance. Bone Armor absorbs the effect of Bone Spikes.
  • Soulflame - The souls of the dead Boneweavers continue to torment the living, periodically engulfing a section of the room in Soulflame. The flame inflicts 80,000 Fire damage every 0.5 sec. and grows in size over time.
  • Bone Pile - Bone Piles lie scattered throughout the summoning room. Interacting with a Bone Pile grants a player a charge of Bone Armor.
    • Bone Armor - Surrounds the caster with a series of whirling bones that absorbs one Bone spell.

Lilian Voss
  • Stage One: Fetch Me Their Bones! - Darkmaster Gandling turns Lilian Voss against her former allies, employing her powerful abilities to gather more corpses for his devious purposes. Though she tries to fight against his dark will, she cannot control her actions at this time.
    • Shadow Shiv - Lilian leaps onto a player and strikes them with both runeblades, inflicting 60,000 Shadow damage to players within 8 yards.
    • Death's Grasp - Lilian draws upon dark powers to pull all players to her location.
    • Dark Blaze - Periodically summons a patch of dark fire at the player's location, inflicting 25,000 Fire damage every 0.5 seconds.
  • Stage Two: Your Soul is Mine! - When Lilian's health reaches 50%, her will finally breaks. Darkmaster Gandling forcefully rips her anguished soul from her physical body, then commands Lilian's Soul to attack the players.
    • Blazing Soul - Lilian's soul blazes with barely-contained hatred, periodically inflicting 30,000 Fire damage to all players.
    • Unleashed Anguish - Lilian's anguish is further unleashed when striking players in melee. For every melee strike, Lilian will unleash another barrage of Blazing Soul. However, the movement speed of Lilian's Soul is significantly reduced.
    • Fixate Anger - Lilian's Soul fixates on a player. She will only attempt to attack that player and cannot be taunted.
  • Stage Three: A Perfectly Good Corpse - When Lilian's Soul reaches 1% health, Lilian's Soul fades into the spirit realm and cannot be attacked. Darkmaster Gandling reanimates what remains of Lilian's physical body to fight alongside Lilian's Soul. The reanimated corpse retains all abilities Lilian Voss used in Stage One.
  • Finale: Die, Necromancer! - When Lilian's physical body reaches 1% remaining health, she musters the strength to recombine with her soul for a final assault on Darkmaster Gandling.

Darkmaster Gandling
  • Incinerate - Gandling deals 70,000 Fire damage to his current target.
  • Immolate - Gandling burns an enemy for 50,000 Fire damage, then inflicts 30,000 additional Fire damage every 3 sec. for 21 sec.
  • Rise! - Gandling summons a legion of Failed Students to fight for him. The students swarm the area, fighting anything they can. While channelling this spell, the Darkmaster takes 50% less damage.
    • Failed Student - The Darkmaster raises the bodies of failed students to attack players.
  • Harsh Lesson - Darkmaster Gandling teleports a random player to one of his study rooms for a harsh lesson!
  • Study Rooms
    • Expired Test Subject - The Darkmaster keeps these former test subjects in the nearby rooms. They attack anyone who enters their rooms.
    • Fresh Test Subject - The Darkmaster keeps these subjects alive in the nearby rooms for testing. Each test subject suffers from Explosive Pain.
      • Explosive Pain - Gandling's experiment inflicts excruciating pain on the Fresh Test Subject. Dispelling the effect from the Fresh Test Subject unleashes an explosion of magical energy. This explosion inflicts 75,000 Shadow damage to Expired Test Subjects within 8 yards.



Beta Class Balance Analysis
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
How committed is the development team to having all tanks perform within an "acceptable variance" on all encounters? In Cataclysm we saw several "niches" become severe problems for tank balance on certain heroic encounters. For example:

Deathknights on Yor'Sahj, "Bearcatting" on Madness, Spine, Ultra, and Blackhorn, Deathknight and Druid compared to Paladin and Warrior for Impales on Madness, Warriors for Blood tanking on Spine, Paladins for most of heroic T12 due to Divine Guardian, and Warrior/Druid/Deathknight vs Paladin on Al'Akir.

We don't think any of those cross the line. If it were the same class showing up for all of those bullet points, that would be a problem. Our tanks all have strengths and weaknesses and unusual encounter mechanics may synergize or clash with them, but that's more interesting than extreme homogeneity, which would be the alternative. We like the puzzle aspect of "solving" boss encounters according to the comp and strengths of individual groups. We think it has helped contribute to the fun of killing bosses having such extraordinary legs (meaning that we're on tier 14 now and have made hundreds of dungeon bosses).

If memory serves the first Spine kill was Blood DK / Prot paladin and the second was a pair of druids. Now granted, world firsts sometimes have to resort to unusual strategies since they undergear the fights because they haven't had weeks to farm up better gear. Your mileage may vary.

As a counter-example, paladins on Heroic Major Domo initially were able to solo-soak the scorpion cleave, letting guilds with paladin tanks keep him in scorpion form longer than those without. We thought that crossed the line and we changed the boss mechanics to disincentivize that particular strategy. I fully admit that these calls are subjective.

It was explained that "Expertise will negate dodge and spell miss, then parry". No. I've tested this. Expertise reduces Dodge then Parry. Paperdoll is wrong and hasn't been updated yet.
Expertise does indeed reduce dodge and then parry. The character sheet itself does not appear to update correctly.

You're missing the point. Expertise doesn't help spell miss, which is a huge problem for any melee class that still has abilities on the spell hit table.
As far as we know, it does (and if it does not, it's a bug). You can't trust the tooltip in this case, because as I said, it is not yet updating -- you would have to actually test it in game.

Some follow ups on things that I said we’d investigate. More still to come. This thread has been great. Please try to keep it focused on theorycrafting discussion ("How does Combat Potency’s proc chance work?") and not general Q&A ("Explain your design intent with X"). Thanks!

  • Pet Scaling: Still working on a more comprehensive description of our new pet scaling system. Please continue to report things that seem like bugs or inconsistencies.
  • Shadowy Apparitions: Looks like this got fixed sometime recently; its damage matches the tooltip now. Not sure which way was correct, but an example data point is that it does 19908 damage with 16334 spell power and Shadowform and no other buffs.
  • Gargoyle and Haste: It was incorrectly getting only melee haste from the DK, not spell haste. It now gets spell haste from your highest haste.
  • Barrage vs Powershot: We’re currently planning to reduce Barrage’s damage a bit, so that it ends up being on par with the others on the row in terms of overall DPS.
  • Frost DK Weapon Twisting: We’re looking for a more elegant way to solve this, but may end up just disabling Threat of Thassarian and Might of the Frozen Wastes for ~10 sec whenever you swap weapons. Obviously, the weapon twisting behavior is not what we want to encourage; we want Frost DKs to choose either DW or 2H, and stick with that choice (and have them be competitive choices).
  • Spinning Crane Kick: Will only generate Chi if it hits at least 3 targets.
  • Malefic Grasp: There’s another bugfix coming still for this so it won’t match what you see quite yet, but here’s how it should work:

    1) DoT hastening of Malefic Grasp and Drain Soul back to +100%, from +50%.

    2) Damage of MG and DS reduced, so that the total DPS gain remains constant (-40% to MG, -13.333% to DS).

    3) Since MG once again simply doubles tick rate, it effectively means there should be an additional tick between each existing tick. So, if MG is active during a midpoint between normal ticks, an extra tick goes off.
  • Brain Freeze with Multi-DoTing: Brain Freeze will only be triggered by your most recently applied bomb.

Druid (Forums)
Nature's Vigil is currently affecting Frenzied Regeneration. That doesn't seem intentional.
I believe the intention is that the healing amount is increased, but that it does not deal damage based on that healing.

Here are some more incoming changes relevant to Balance Druid theorycrafters.

We are experimenting with some changes to the rotation. No promises that these changes will stay, but we definitely look forward to your feedback (both in terms of theorycrafting and how fun it is). Shooting Stars should occur much more frequently, and Starsurge should be a more important (read: high damage) button. Additionally, we’re adding a new passive that has some interesting implications. Should you choose to ignore it, your DPS will likely be only a few percentage behind someone who uses it optimally, but it should hopefully provide some more varied gameplay. To use some game designer jargon, we’re happy with Moonkins’ macro level rotational gameplay, but think they needs some more mirco-level decisions.

  • Shooting Stars chance increased from 20% to 50%.
  • Starsurge damage increased by 30%.
  • Fae Empowerment: New passive for Balance Druids. When you cast Faerie Fire, you gain Lunar Empowerment and Solar Empowerment.
  • Lunar Empowerment: Increases the damage of your next 3 Starfires within 15 sec by 15%.
  • Solar Empowerment: Increases the damage of your next 3 Wraths within 15 sec by 20%.

Please note that these changes are straight DPS buffs, and we don’t think Moonkin need a buff right now, so we need to reduce overall damage (probably across the board) so that overall DPS stays the same. These nerfs may take a few builds, because we need to evaluate if these rotation changes are worth doing. However, don't be surprised when you see them, and help spread the word when you see the inevitable "I can't believe we were nerfed!" posts.

Hunter (Forums)
I'm curious about the Hunter technique of macro'ing Fox and Hawk into cast time/instant shots, respectively, to maximize uptime with the Hawk AP buff while moving.
We don't consider that fun gameplay. You're basically opting out of Aspects as a mechanic and just always benefiting from the right Aspect because you're "clever" enough to know there is a macro. Usually in this situation we put the "stance" on the normal GCD or make the shared GCD longer.

Barrage: This ability seems to do 400% weapon damage in total but it does not seem to be normalized, unlike powershot which is normalized (as well as just about every other hunter ability). Is this an oversight or is it not normalized for a reason?
Bug (and a slightly sneaky one). The issues you raise with Murder of Crows and Dire Beast are one of the challenges with summoned creatures. It's possible they won't always get the same number of attacks off, but we can balance around the average.

As an aside, we have a lot of abilities that summon extra creatures for hunters, including Stampede. This can create client performance problems on lower end machines, so we may ultimately have to redesign some of them. (We don't want to hear raid or BG leaders asking hunters not to use certain abilities.) Stampede would be the last one we touch.

Nowhere was a promise made that Piercing Shots, Mastery, et al. would be exempt from break CC. "Not a fair requirement" and "probably do need to pause" are not the words of a promise.
If you CC someone (say Scatter Shot, Freezing Traps and Wyvern Sting) and your autoshot gets turned off but Piercing Shots or Wild Quiver merrily break the CC, then that's a bug. If you CC someone and then keep shooting at them, then you're a bad hunter, and it's fine to break the CC. (In other words, you're supposed to choose between CC or damage.) Serpent Sting is a bit of a gray area, because you do have control over whether you put it up. You could be in a situation where you have a dot up and then decide to CC that target, but that situation happens for a variety of classes. We provide the glyphs for that situation. (Like everything else we discuss in this thread, none of that is set in stone.)

Mage (Forums)
Hi Doctor Street. A question has arisen concerning the mage tier 6 talents and if we'll be balanced around 100 up time on their use for our dps to be competitive with other classes.
Are Mages going to be balanced under the assumption that they have perfect 100% uptime of their level 90 talents? No. Are they going to be balanced under the assumption that they take one of them and use it reasonably well? Yes.

Monk (Forums)
Is that a range Mistweaver or a melee one?
Yes.

Paladin (Forums)
Currently because of the mana cost of spells and how slowly we generate Holy Power, I'm basically relying on Holy Shock and Holy light, with some WoG's / Eternal Flame on the tank. But I'm almost forced to not use Flash of Light of Divine Light because of the mana cost to heal ratio. More than a few casts of either of those will put me in the danger zone of going oom, with not a lot of healing to show for it. Also Holy Radiance doesnt do nearly as much AoE healing as it was in Cataclysm, where i could rely on it to keep the group up during rough raid damage periods.
Holy Radiance is quite overpowered on many Dragon Soul fights, so I wouldn't use that as a yardstick for how spells should perform. Many of the nerfs we have made to Holy paladin healing over the course of beta have come about when our internal raid tests were dominated by Holy paladins (both throughput and efficiency) and Mistweaver monks. We'll compare these results to healers on beta now that raid tests are open.

Priest (Forums)
What was the decision process behind moving Vampiric Embrace from a passive ability to an active one?
In order to balance it, the number either needs to be very small, or the duration needs to be less than 100%. We generally think active abilities are more engaging than passive ones, so we went with the latter.

As far as your other Shadow questions go, I suggest just waiting until the next build so that you can see all of the numbers. It might take a lot of time to explain via text that would just lead to more questions. If the intent still isn't clear at that point, we can clear things up.

Shaman (Forums)
Currently Stormlash totem is scaling to ridiculous levels for certain classes(I've noticed Warlocks, Balance Druids, and Warriors so far) getting almost 400% more usage out of the totem than the myself as Elemental(With 2 back to back totems during heroism it did 300k damage for myself, but 1.2m for the warrior, 1.6m for the demo lock, 1.6m for the Balance druid.) Are you going to balance this down to those classes and then look at Stormlash and balance it around 25m but make sure it'll still be worth it for 10m.
That sounds off. It is possible something is proc'ing it than we don't intend. We don't want the shaman dropping the totem just to make someone else super awesome. It's a matter of degree -- if melee benefit a little more, no big deal. If some specs get 400%, then that may lead to a stacking issue. If it becomes a mandatory raid cooldown, then that's a problem. The benefit should be more like Shattering Throw -- nice to have, but not mandatory. (Mandatory tends to be in the eye of the beholder however.)

GC - you wanted more info on the Earth Elemental dodge thing:
Thanks, we’ll investigate this.

Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Level 90 Premade Character Availability
We are not planning on making new max-level template characters available in the near future, so if you're looking to participate in testing the Normal or Heroic versions of the Mists raid zones, you'll want to level to 90 in the beta.

By way of explanation: While we're excited about moving into the raid-testing phase of our beta, we're still looking closely at feedback and player behavior across all types of content, including the level-up experience and max-level daily quests. When we make raid-ready template characters available, that inevitably comes at the expense of the quality and quantity of testing in these other areas. In the past, this was an unavoidable sacrifice, since it was unrealistic to ask people to fully gear up for endgame raiding, much less Heroic raiding, in a beta environment. The new item-scaling system we have in place, however, provides an alternate solution. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

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This article was originally published in forum thread: Account Wide Mounts, Challenge Mode Valor Rewards, Heroic Scholomance, Blue Posts started by chaud View original post
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  1. Imhullu's Avatar
    Pico needs to stop making that hand motion, or you guys just choose a different thumbnail.
    Poor girl.

    Also nice change on the mounts, it's really trivial to not have those be account wide. I think the pvp ones shouldn't be though so that's okay with me that they are not. And class specific shouldn't even have been questioned lol.
  1. Duerma's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SXSWFun View Post
    There are no Yak mounts. Maybe Blizzard is living in the future where MOP is already released. Some of us like to live in the present!
    You do realize they are talking about a feature that is not going to be in-game until... MOP is already released, right? :P

    Glad for the changes. I know some people are auction house barons and can obtain those mounts easily, but the average player has to scrimp and save for quite some time. It can be just as big an obstacle as grinding out reputations, if not even more so.
  1. mmoc6378d51645's Avatar
    yay for valor cappping in challenge mode!
  1. sweatshopkids's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by shesta View Post
    Find. Someone. Else. For. Those. Videos. That girl is irritating as hell.
    She's also disgusting as shit to look at.
  1. Kaeleena's Avatar
    You people do realize account-wide mounts will actually increase the number of mounts you sell because it increases the value of a single mount by 10x. You're going to get more business from new customers then you would from repeat customers just buying mounts for alts. The majority of players that collect mounts collect mounts on a single toon and get one or two of their favorite mounts for their alts. You'll now see many more people in the market than were previously. Demand goes up and supply goes down then prices go up. Everybody wins.
  1. shoju's Avatar
    Their insistence that Gladiator mounts should be character only, is further proof of why I'm not playing in Panda. Yep. That mount you spent 15 thousand gold on? Sure. That's account wide. That mount that you lucked into as a drop from some boss, that you happened to be awarded? Yep. That's account wide. That Glory of the... Drake that you earned? yep. That's account wide.

    That Drake you earned for being one of the top PvP'ers in a season? NO. NO. YOU CAN'T DISPLAY THAT ON EVERY CHARACTER

    And before you start saying that I'm being an elitist PvP Prick, Let me reassure you, I'm not. I don't even have a single character on my account with 5k Honorable Kills. I don't PvP. I just think that it's a truckload of horse manure that I can display my Glory of the Ulduar Raider 25 drake that I got during ICC (You know, after we had 2 tiers of gear to make it easy) on all of my toons, but the guy who went out there, and housed people in Arena, can't display their Drake on whatever toon they happen to want to play.

    I don't care about the ground mounts. You can buy those with Justice Points, they can stay single toon. But, the Gladiator Mounts? How can you justify Glory of the Raider Mounts being Account wide, and not the Gladiator Mounts!
  1. GG4Eva's Avatar
    That is sick!!! Wish I didn't buy a second chopper for my other character now lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Exerus View Post
    I dont think the Mechano-Hog, Mekgineer's Chopper shouldnt be account wide cause I dont feel they afre that hard to obtain and it was always required to have engineering to us them. But since I dont have either one yet I dont know if it will take the time and gold equivalent to the price of the Grand Expedition Yak.
    ?? You don't need to be an engineer to have a chopper. I like this idea. A chopper goes for around 15k on my realm and I only have it on two of my characters. I would love to have them on all
  1. CaptainArlong's Avatar
    Pre-mades should never have been allowed in the beta period. I can't believe people are asking for level 90 pre-mades..
  1. Adramalech's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Imhullu View Post
    Pico needs to stop making that hand motion, or you guys just choose a different thumbnail.
    Poor girl.
    I think she's adorable

    Anyway, yay for the mounts. I'm glad they got some sense into their heads and changed these mounts. However... I disagree with PvP mounts being restricted. I don't have any, but if I did, I sure as hell wouldn't be pleased that I wouldn't have it shared across my characters. I still think only class mounts should be restricted. Nothing more.
  1. Callypso's Avatar
    "How about them apples?"


    You'd think people would check the stills of the vids they post on the front page of a forum?

    ...unless it's on purpose, ofc. Then I just feel sorry for the poor girl lol :P
  1. VanishO2's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Adramalech View Post
    I think she's adorable

    Anyway, yay for the mounts. I'm glad they got some sense into their heads and changed these mounts. However... I disagree with PvP mounts being restricted. I don't have any, but if I did, I sure as hell wouldn't be pleased that I wouldn't have it shared across my characters. I still think only class mounts should be restricted. Nothing more.
    Indeed, only class mounts, but I would also add faction mounts as restricted (they alread are, right? not in beta).
  1. Runeweaver's Avatar
    Glad of the mount change to be honest, it's great news for mount collectors
  1. truetry's Avatar
    Sweet, I don't have to buy them for all my alts
  1. DrakeWurrum's Avatar
    We don't think any of those cross the line. If it were the same class showing up for all of those bullet points, that would be a problem. Our tanks all have strengths and weaknesses and unusual encounter mechanics may synergize or clash with them, but that's more interesting than extreme homogeneity, which would be the alternative. We like the puzzle aspect of "solving" boss encounters according to the comp and strengths of individual groups. We think it has helped contribute to the fun of killing bosses having such extraordinary legs (meaning that we're on tier 14 now and have made hundreds of dungeon bosses).
    And yet again I am reminded of why I've lost faith in Blizzard. They don't see it as a problem because they look at it from the top of their ivory mountain and consider the design. They see the players in a raid group as building blocks to a puzzle, all the while forgetting that players only play ONE class on their character. And even then, a lot of people don't want to be forced to respec for the sake of that puzzle.

    If one class or spec is better than another, even for one specific fight, you could very likely get benched from that fight until it's put on farm (or be forced to play something you don't enjoy playing) - and who the hell cares about a fight once it's on farm? Even if it's "boring" the classes need to be equal on a per-fight basis, or else this "puzzle-building" will continue to cause players to be benched. I should be able to run into a progression fight with any composition, assuming a reasonable number of tanks/dps/heals obviously, and not feel like another composition is superior. I shouldn't feel like "Damn, if they replaced me, the Enhance Shaman, with a Rogue, this boss would be dead already." It should be about player skill, not about what puzzle pieces you have.

    And gain, on the argument of respeccing: If you're willing to resepc, more power to you. Not everybody is. Players should not be forced to play something that they do not enjoy, just for the sake of progress. In the end, this is a game, and people play it for fun - a game is not the place for a "success at all costs" mentality.
  1. mmoc8c543d8fa8's Avatar
    Don't i feel like a dick for buying vials for all my alts.
  1. sarasun's Avatar
    "If memory serves the first Spine kill was Blood DK / Prot paladin and the second was a pair of druids."

    The first spine kill AFAIK was made by KIN raiders, and used feral druid/prot pal . The point still stands, no warrior used.
  1. slayton's Avatar
    My favorite part is that if PvP mount's were account wide there would be an equal number of people finding a reason to complain about that on here...
  1. sarasun's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    And yet again I am reminded of why I've lost faith in Blizzard. They don't see it as a problem because they look at it from the top of their ivory mountain and consider the design. They see the players in a raid group as building blocks to a puzzle, all the while forgetting that players only play ONE class on their character. And even then, a lot of people don't want to be forced to respec for the sake of that puzzle.

    If one class or spec is better than another, even for one specific fight, you could very likely get benched from that fight until it's put on farm (or be forced to play something you don't enjoy playing) - and who the hell cares about a fight once it's on farm? Even if it's "boring" the classes need to be equal on a per-fight basis, or else this "puzzle-building" will continue to cause players to be benched. I should be able to run into a progression fight with any composition, assuming a reasonable number of tanks/dps/heals obviously, and not feel like another composition is superior. I shouldn't feel like "Damn, if they replaced me, the Enhance Shaman, with a Rogue, this boss would be dead already." It should be about player skill, not about what puzzle pieces you have.

    And gain, on the argument of respeccing: If you're willing to resepc, more power to you. Not everybody is. Players should not be forced to play something that they do not enjoy, just for the sake of progress. In the end, this is a game, and people play it for fun - a game is not the place for a "success at all costs" mentality.
    The danger with this is class homogenization. If every class can perform equally on any encounter, then they will all feel the same. IMO they are better keeping small differences between classes. So what if warriors aren't as good in encounter A? If they're better than others in encounter B, it will equalize. Only the guilds rushing for server/region/world firsts will bench good raiders because of their class being bad, as long as the gap isn't immense.
  1. mmocb28907128d's Avatar
    Yes!!! I'm so glad they changed so the expensive mounts will be account wide aswell
  1. sarasun's Avatar
    Correction: KIN Raiders DID use a warrior for world first Spine of Deathwing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZHeTNr7xzM

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