MMO-Champion - Ink Trader Changes and Vengeance Hotfix
Ink Trader Exchange Change
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Beginning after the maintenance on Tuesday, October 9, ink traders will be converting from accepting Blackfallow Ink to accepting Ink of Dreams and Starlight Ink will become available for purchase. If you’re still holding on to your Blackfallow Ink, your time to trade it in is running short.

Vengeance Hotfix
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
A hotfix will be applied to adjust how Vengeance stacks for tanks of all classes:

  • Vengeance should now ramp up more quickly. Avoidance will now grant Vengeance based on the average damage of the avoided NPC auto-attack, instead of just refreshing existing Vengeance. This does not apply to enemy special attacks.

This will be noted in the next hotfix update, but we wanted to let you know immediately, as this change will be applied sometime today.
This article was originally published in forum thread: Ink Trader Changes and Vengeance Hotfix started by Boubouille View original post
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  1. Pannekaker's Avatar
    Go ahead, buff Vengeance even more... :P
  1. endless's Avatar
    no! i was loving 15g stacks of whiptails and selling shoulder enchants
    on positive note i guess i can do more darkmoon cards
  1. Ryme's Avatar
    Because 100k aoe tanks just wasn't enough :P
  1. Axore's Avatar
    Greaaaat! come some Glyphs Todo!
  1. xtramuscle's Avatar
    I'm stuck with 3000 Ink of dreams in my bank, this change hasn't come nearly soon enough.
  1. wast3gat3's Avatar
    Great timing as I just started farming cata herbs again to top up blackfallow ink
  1. Flimsy's Avatar
    Am I reading that correctly? is that a buff to vengeance?
  1. Soisoisoi's Avatar
    So, the more you avoid, the more vengeance you get. Am I reading this right, or is that just going to make Death Knights (who stack Mastery) worse? Or is that Avoidance grants it AS WELL as how it works currently?
  1. Drfireburns's Avatar
    This is great news for Prot Paladins.
  1. Divinedoom's Avatar
    FINAAAALLY, 12k+ white inks. So ready to get rid of them..
  1. Melancolie's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Treelife View Post
    So, the more you avoid, the more vengeance you get. Am I reading this right, or is that just going to make Death Knights (who stack Mastery) worse? Or is that Avoidance grants it AS WELL as how it works currently?
    You should get your facts straight

    Buffing everyone while making a few minor things better, doesnt make something worse. It still makes DK's better, it just benefit avoidance stackers slightly more.

    Fact is: Vengeance will be better than before, so dk's will be better.
  1. openair's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Treelife View Post
    So, the more you avoid, the more vengeance you get. Am I reading this right, or is that just going to make Death Knights (who stack Mastery) worse? Or is that Avoidance grants it AS WELL as how it works currently?
    This change is an addition to how Vengeance works. Previous you would potentially lose an increase to your Vengeance by increasing your avoidance (parry/dodge). Avoided damage is damage not taken, damage that was not increasing your Vengeance. Absorbs are not "Avoidance." Now an increase to your avoidance (gear upgrade) doesn't potentially cost you increases for your Vengeance stack.
  1. SHT's Avatar
    Tanks really didn't need to do any more damage. They should have just buffed their threat by another 300%.
  1. crowdplzr's Avatar
    L2Read Newbs, this is a NERF!

    •Vengeance should now ramp up more quickly. Avoidance will now grant Vengeance based on the average damage of the avoided NPC auto-attack, instead of just refreshing existing Vengeance. This does not apply to enemy special attacks.

    Meaning vengeance will no longer give us over 100k AP, we will just do more damage faster but they just capped it.
  1. vynka's Avatar
    Damn you Blizzard!! I've sold 1k inks already ¬¬
  1. Soisoisoi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Melancolie View Post
    You should get your facts straight
    I was asking a question, not stating facts.
    Quote Originally Posted by openair View Post
    This change is an addition to how Vengeance works. Previous you would potentially lose an increase to your Vengeance by increasing your avoidance (parry/dodge). Avoided damage is damage not taken, damage that was not increasing your Vengeance. Absorbs are not "Avoidance." Now an increase to your avoidance (gear upgrade) doesn't potentially cost you increases for your Vengeance stack.
    Yup, makes sense now - it did seem silly the way I read it!
  1. Proudjaena's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by crowdplzr View Post
    L2Read Newbs, this is a NERF!

    •Vengeance should now ramp up more quickly. Avoidance will now grant Vengeance based on the average damage of the avoided NPC auto-attack, instead of just refreshing existing Vengeance. This does not apply to enemy special attacks.

    Meaning vengeance will no longer give us over 100k AP, we will just do more damage faster but they just capped it.
    I'm guessing you don't understand how vengeance works. /facepalm.
  1. Azeryn's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by crowdplzr View Post
    L2Read Newbs, this is a NERF!

    •Vengeance should now ramp up more quickly. Avoidance will now grant Vengeance based on the average damage of the avoided NPC auto-attack, instead of just refreshing existing Vengeance. This does not apply to enemy special attacks.

    Meaning vengeance will no longer give us over 100k AP, we will just do more damage faster but they just capped it.
    lmfao, maybe you're the one who needs to "L2Read"

    No where did it say anything about not being able to have over 100k AP or that they capped anything...
    Then you go and bold random parts of the sentence that has nothing to do with what you're talking about...

    Maybe you should try reading this again, but this time bold will now grant Vengeance and instead of just refreshing existing

    so, something that used to just refresh the current vengeance, will now give vengeance.

    Yup, you're right, guess they did nerf it and cap it... /sigh... Now I see why people at Blizzard have been dumbing down the game the past 4 years...
  1. Sheogath's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryme View Post
    Because 100k aoe tanks just wasn't enough :P
    u mean 200k
  1. Coar's Avatar
    I'm confused, so we can trade blackfallow for MoP ones?

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