MMO-Champion - Ink Trader Changes and Vengeance Hotfix
Ink Trader Exchange Change
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Beginning after the maintenance on Tuesday, October 9, ink traders will be converting from accepting Blackfallow Ink to accepting Ink of Dreams and Starlight Ink will become available for purchase. If you’re still holding on to your Blackfallow Ink, your time to trade it in is running short.

Vengeance Hotfix
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
A hotfix will be applied to adjust how Vengeance stacks for tanks of all classes:

  • Vengeance should now ramp up more quickly. Avoidance will now grant Vengeance based on the average damage of the avoided NPC auto-attack, instead of just refreshing existing Vengeance. This does not apply to enemy special attacks.

This will be noted in the next hotfix update, but we wanted to let you know immediately, as this change will be applied sometime today.
This article was originally published in forum thread: Ink Trader Changes and Vengeance Hotfix started by Boubouille View original post
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  1. Ferrouswheel's Avatar
    It's a buff not a nerf, read it again slowly if you have trouble.
  1. lsmf5's Avatar
    Happy I caught this, just bought out every cheap IoD and cheap herb to mill them. Bring on the profits :P
  1. Kuri-chan-senpai's Avatar
    Thank GOD. I was just grumbling about how I have 400+ ink of dreams, and no starlight inks. Now I know what I'm doing first thing tomorrow :P
  1. xrayEU's Avatar
    I wonder if we should recruit more tanks to the guild and run with 4-5 tanks in 10man, I guess that would increase our raid dps overall.
  1. pimpeddakota's Avatar
    Thank you blizzard for making solo'ing your new MOP D's even easier. DK tanks love you more and more everyday
  1. Rixis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by xrayEU View Post
    I wonder if we should recruit more tanks to the guild and run with 4-5 tanks in 10man, I guess that would increase our raid dps overall.
    How do you plan on getting 4-5 tanks their vengeance buff?
  1. xrayEU's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rixis View Post
    How do you plan on getting 4-5 tanks their vengeance buff?
    Just some nice chain taunting should do the trick, if vengeance stack up rapidly it should work
  1. Lachtobi's Avatar
    Buffing tanks' DPS? I think there's been a case of AIDS in Blizzards simulators.
  1. Danifilth's Avatar
    Buff threat first before vengeance i cant even dps boss fights without dying.
  1. tankz0's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Pannekaker View Post
    Go ahead, buff Vengeance even more... :P
    How is This a buff? Tanks have no gear atm, thats why we get so much vengeance because we take so much damage(avoiding less) but with This change thats baseb on avoiding stuff, we won't get that much vengeance until we get gear!
  1. Rhia's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by tankz0 View Post
    How is This a buff? Tanks have no gear atm, thats why we get so much vengeance because we take so much damage(avoiding less) but with This change thats baseb on avoiding stuff, we won't get that much vengeance until we get gear!
    Before this change, whenever you avoid an attack your vengeance buff is refreshed but not added to. After the change it is both refreshed and added to. Obvious buff.
  1. Amerenth's Avatar
    not the greatest buff but at least its something
  1. warlink's Avatar
    Vengeance is not being buffed, it's being smoothened. In Mogu'shan Vaults (and upcoming raids) many fights have tank swapping mechanics. After taunt avoidance streak could mean that you have zero vengeance and dps or the old tank could very easily pull aggro. And in 5 man content where vengeance drops between packs and avoidance streaks are bad for the tank and overly eager dps. Vengeance is being averaged out, not buffed or nerfed.
  1. Thundermoose's Avatar
    Wow. Just... Wow.
  1. olivete's Avatar
    My question is.... where is this vendor? I cant trade my inks...
  1. ejpaints's Avatar
    If u lost $ bc you sold your inks it's your own fault. Common sense would state the ink trader would get updated. Guess common sense isn't so common. On the bright side, thx for all the cheap ink u sold me last week.
  1. KLPath's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by olivete View Post
    My question is.... where is this vendor? I cant trade my inks...
    I want to know the answer to this as well. I really hope this isn't a "oops, we forgot to put it in even though we just announced it yesterday".
  1. Killoe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by KLPath View Post
    I want to know the answer to this as well. I really hope this isn't a "oops, we forgot to put it in even though we just announced it yesterday".
    Same, still old inks for me
  1. Lumineus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Archdruid Dehydrate View Post
    DPS are getting mad that they can't slack anymore, quit being lazy. Us Tanks shouldn't be top dps unless its aoe.
    "You tanks" shouldn't be top DPS, AT ALL. Single target, AoE, Abraham Lincoln, whatever. They need to put some kind of short ICD on Vengeance stacking so you don't gain astronomically more from multiple sources. The "gain" in DPS from AoE (and I use the term loosely here because it's rather hard for most DPS to do more AoE than single-target currently, unless they want to have no cooldowns for boss pulls) should come from using your attacks effectively, not because you gain hundreds of thousands of attack power from pulling a bunch of mobs.
  1. ejpaints's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Lumineus View Post
    "You tanks" shouldn't be top DPS, AT ALL. Single target, AoE, Abraham Lincoln, whatever. They need to put some kind of short ICD on Vengeance stacking so you don't gain astronomically more from multiple sources. The "gain" in DPS from AoE (and I use the term loosely here because it's rather hard for most DPS to do more AoE than single-target currently, unless they want to have no cooldowns for boss pulls) should come from using your attacks effectively, not because you gain hundreds of thousands of attack power from pulling a bunch of mobs.
    Agreed. Hubby's prot Pali shouldn't be capable of outdoing my hunter on aoe but he can, relatively easily. We've even played around with me switching specs just to see difference. End result is same. He's routinely pulled over 100k on pulls and I'm talking 5 mans with no raid gear and only partial heroic gear. Even he said he's cringing about the incoming nerfbat.

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