Separate 10 and 25 Man Raid Lockout and Reward Changes in Korea

Update: The changes will also be tested in China.

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Separate 10 and 25 Man Raid Lockout and Reward Changes in Korea
Similar to the test of shorter raid lockouts for older content, Korea is testing separate raid lockouts for 10 and 25 man, as well as higher item level rewards in 25 man raids. The translation below was provided by PrairieChicken .

Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker)

We received several feedbacks regarding raid instance lockouts and 10/25 rewards, and we appreciate your opinions and deep interests. We thought that Korean players wish to enjoy the most hardcore contents more flexibly and according to their play styles. Therefore, from the upcoming patch we decided to change the raid instance lockout rules for all KR servers. Raids, as usual, will be reset every 7 days following maintainance checks. However, after 5.1 patch 10 man and 25 man raids will have seperate lockouts.

From now on, players could play raid instances, such as Mogu-Shan Vaults, in both 10 man and 25 man difficulty. Normal and Heroic difficulty raid of same instance will share same lockout as usual. Furthermore, the loots of 25 man raids has been buffed, and will offer higher iLV compared to same 10 man instance. For example, Terrace of the Endless Spring in 25 man difficulty will drop loots with iLV of 504, wile 10 man will drop 496.

We wish that players will further enjoy the contents and gain satisfactory rewards, and decided to offer the system that suits most well with the KR players.

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Published on 2012-10-25 04:23 PM

758 Comments

guigui7 - 2012-10-25

I just hope that KR will be removed from wowprogress cause that is an advantage that can make them progress faster, and as a competitive raider I like when its fair play and this is not.
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furydeath - 2012-10-25

So they wanna go back to how it was in wotlk?
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Saiyoran - 2012-10-25

Seriously? Why can't US have this back?
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Howard Moon - 2012-10-25

Bring it to EU realms!
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Kanariya - 2012-10-25

I raid in 10-man exclusively, and I really would have no issue of 25m got better loot like they used to. I'd actually prefer this change to happen in the US/EU regions and start bringing back 25m guilds.
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Chloral - 2012-10-25

For those of you wondering why only korean server, it's pretty simple: they pay per hours of play not months.

That means that they only pay for their raid times and then stay unsub the rest of the time.
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Shamanfun - 2012-10-25

Originally Posted by Amalisa

Yea, great to screw over people who can't raid 25mans. Now all guilds will go back to 25, g fucking g blizz.

I really hate seeing this excuse. It's not MY fault your computer is from 2003.
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Lannen - 2012-10-25

I would really enjoy having 10 and 25 back to the way they were on US servers. To those saying it "screws 10man guilds" or something along those lines, your argument makes no sense. Essentially you're saying that you want to put in less time, less effort, and reap the same rewards as people organizing and participating in 25man raids. That's absolutely not fair to the people who would rather do 25man...if you don't have the time or the guild to do the hardest content, you don't deserve the best gear, it really is that simple regardless of what anybody tries to claim. And to further expand - if you are only doing 10man raids, why do you NEED 25man level gear? The answer is you don't, so who cares if your 10man drops weaker gear than a 25man.
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Akraen - 2012-10-25

This really needs to happen globally if 25-Man raiding is to survive beyond this tier for any guilds other than the top crust. I approve of the KR change, and for the health and sanity of my guild I really hope this hits the US.
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S2omegaS2 - 2012-10-25

Originally Posted by chaud

They tested Firelands having a shorter cooldown there and decided it wasn't a good idea. This is likely similar testing.

sooooo....Korea is Blizzard's guinea pig? lol
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Hanodar - 2012-10-25

This would be an amazing change for the US. I miss the old system.
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Mikaelo - 2012-10-25

They're doing this in Korea because the business model is different there. A great many people spend an evening playing on a shared machine in an internet-cafe type place, paying for a block of time. As it stands, they get all their raiding done in one evening and don't come back and pay again until the next week. Completely different playtime pattern for raiders over there.
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Motylek - 2012-10-25

Imo that's stupid change, will force ppl to do both difficulties, that is too much for a week.
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Rezhial - 2012-10-25

I pray this hits US realms, 10 and 25 have never and will never be on equal playing grounds, and should separated as such.
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Karei - 2012-10-25

A lot of guilds were forced to go 10 man cause of the recruitment problems that shared lockouts and loottables imposed.
This would solve a lot of issues on that particular front.
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RisingEU - 2012-10-25

Discriminating. Equality, please.
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Faahq - 2012-10-25

I for one would welcome this change. I was bummed after Wrath when they changed it to separate lockouts with the same loot. It meant the death of every single 25 man guild on my underpopulated server. I always felt that end-game WoW should be epic fights agains epic bosses, and somehow only having 10 people go against a huge baddie felt wrong. 25 people working in unison should be needed to tackle the worst villains WoW has to offer.
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Killmaim Deathbringer - 2012-10-25

Originally Posted by 6ev4enko

25 man are true raids, 10 man is just a bigger instance. Make the same change to US and EU please!

If 10 mans are just "Bigger instances" then what the hell is Raid Finder?
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Melilithia - 2012-10-25

Please, PLEASE bring back separate raid lockouts... for EVERYTHING. Not just MoP content.

Originally Posted by Motylek

Imo that's stupid change, will force ppl to do both difficulties, that is too much for a week.

I LOVE how people think they're forced to do anything while playing WoW.
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Taftvalue - 2012-10-25

Originally Posted by Motylek

Imo that's stupid change, will force ppl to do both difficulties, that is too much for a week.

Yeah I heard all the people crying in Wotlk that there was a lot of content, oh wait, your argument is invalid.
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